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agamemnonymous sh.itjust.works agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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#102 · Quote Reply

Because if you want anything to change, the pressure has got to be applied in the right direction. If people just keep blaming their neighbours, of course no politician will ever feel like they have to do anything to improve things.

If you want anything to change, you need to take effective actions. The consequence politicians face by taking ineffective actions is maybe not winning their race. The consequence our neighbors face by taking ineffective actions is the erosion of their civil rights.

If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings, they're not just going to magically know why you didn't vote or vote third party.

Protest voting doesn't apply the pressure you think it does.

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BassTurd lemmy.world BassTurd@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#103 · Quote Reply

and didn't sit out the election Wrong. They made a deliberate choice to pursue a platform that would lose them the election because they care more about killing children overseas than they care about not killing children at home. You don't have to like it, but that's what's a fact.

It doesn't matter what they said or pushed for. There were two known commodities, Kamala and Trump, one of them was going to win. Everyone knew what Trump would do. Whether Kamala would have done anything to improve the situation overseas is an unknown, but I guarantee there was a better chance of positive change had she won.

Anyone that based their voting off of the DNC instead of their own eyes, again, is an idiot.

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I_Has_A_Hat lemmy.world I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-24
#104 · Quote Reply

STOP POSTING TWEETS WITHOUT DATE STAMPS!

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LoafedBurrito lemmy.world LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-26
#105 · Quote Reply

When you vote in racist people, racist things will happen.

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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#106 · Quote Reply

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"You must accept this boot to the neck or we let the crazy guy shoot you," isn't the slam dunk argument you think it is.

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porous_grey_matter lemmy.ml porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-09
#107 · (edited) Quote Reply

If you want anything to change, you need to take effective actions. The consequence politicians face by taking ineffective actions is maybe not winning their race. The consequence our neighbors face by taking ineffective actions is the erosion of their civil rights. If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings, they're not ...

If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings

Sure, that's a thing you should do

they're not just going to magically know why you didn't vote or vote third party

They actually expend substantial effort and sums of money to find this out, there's nothing magical about it.

Protest voting doesn't apply the pressure you think it does.

On the other hand, voting for them anyway if they do something absolutely abhorrent and beyond any kind of humanity tells them they can get away with anything and is just a race to the bottom.

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speckofrust lemmy.dbzer0.com speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-08
#108 · Quote Reply

The problem is that most of us that would protest are not in a financial position to do so. If I participate in a work strike, I won't make the money I need to pay my bills, I'll be evicted, I'll go hungry, I won't be able to feed the family or the pets I will go destitute long before actual change happens. I'm not just making sacrifices, I am making that decision for my whole family. And that'...

I guess US citizens are then in a financial situation similar to what US foreign policy has encouraged in several regions of the world.

Anyone can downvote all they want, but US interventionism has had terrible consequences that most US citizens are not even aware of, yet people push back, they resist, despite much greater poverty than most people in the US have to suffer.

I’m confident that US citizens can eventually do something concrete against their most recent criminal regime, of which there have been many. We haven’t even yet seen the level of pushback that was mounted during the war on Vietnam, and armed thugs are out there killing your citizens and kidnapping people off the streets.

I just hope that pushback comes sooner than later because history shows us that people outside the US tend to suffer much more due to US policy than people inside the US.

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TheFonz lemmy.world TheFonz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#109 · Quote Reply

I was told living under Democrats and both parties are basically the same.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#110 · Quote Reply

But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead.

I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.

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14th_cylon lemmy.zip 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-29
#111 · (edited) Quote Reply

write it on a paper? who doesn't remember single address without writing it down?

it is not really the point of the message, but it kinda is...

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Tryenjer lemmy.world Tryenjer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-07
#112 · (edited) Quote Reply

write it on a paper? who doesn't remember single address without writing it down? it is not really the point of the message, but it kinda is...

If memory weren't so tattered, people wouldn't be repeating history, though.

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minorkeys lemmy.world minorkeys@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-12
#113 · Quote Reply

Use this as a training ground for avoiding government surveillance?

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nagaram startrek.website nagaram@startrek.website
Joined: 2023-12-21
#114 · Quote Reply

If memory weren't so tattered, people wouldn't be repeating history, though.

This has never stopped humanity from at least rhyming before

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Optional lemmy.world homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#115 · Quote Reply

STOP POSTING TWEETS WITHOUT DATE STAMPS!

Why don’t you post something? POST SOME TWEETS AND INCLUDE DATE STAMPS!

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agamemnonymous sh.itjust.works agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-15
#116 · Quote Reply

If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings Sure, that's a thing you should do they're not just going to magically know why you didn't vote or vote third party They actually expend substantial effort and sums of money to find this out, there's nothing magical about it. Protest voting doesn't apply the pressure you think it...

They actually expend substantial effort and sums of money to find this out

And yet here we are, so clearly they're either drawing the wrong conclusions or they just don't care. Either way, it's not an effective strategy.

voting for them anyway if they do something absolutely abhorrent and beyond any kind of humanity tells them they can get away with anything and is just a race to the bottom.

Elections don't care about nominal votes, they only care about margins. Candidates don't get any extra powers if they win by 1 vote or 1 million. The race is taking place with or without you. You can help the ones moving slower, or resign yourself and your neighbors to the ones moving faster. But protest voting doesn't stop the race.

Write your representatives, protest, build dual power, organize your community, engage in direct action, run for local office; these are all productive strategies. Vote for ideal candidates in primaries. But in the actual election, vote strategically against the most abhorrent and least humane candidate, or you're liable to get them.

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stylusmobilus aussie.zone stylusmobilus@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-09-20
#117 · Quote Reply

Sooner they get this national shutdown done, the easier it is.

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Ilovethebomb sh.itjust.works Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
#118 · Quote Reply

But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead. I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.

Don't you think people deserve to vote for someone they actually support, rather than the least terrible option though?

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ricecake sh.itjust.works ricecake@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-11
#119 · Quote Reply

Don't you think people deserve to vote for someone they actually support, rather than the least terrible option though?

Sure. That's not mutually incompatible with preferring the least terrible option to the most terrible though.

People view it as "Democrats don't deserve to win because they didn't have a good enough candidate", when they should be viewing it as "Democrats didn't field the candidate I deserve, but I still deserve better than the Republican".

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Lorax feddit.uk Lorax@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-05-12
#120 · Quote Reply

Reason ~ why I won't watch the Olympics.

How about the world cup

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ChexMax lemmy.world ChexMax@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-24
#121 · Quote Reply

I know this is meant to refer to eating the paper but what if someone ate the food. Like munching on celery while ICE pulls you out your window.

Lmfao I thought they meant eat the food jfc I am dumb. The worst part is, i've seen this tweet before, and I understood what it meant the first time. Pregnancy brain.

This time. I figured neighborhood must be an app like uber eats, and they're saying just act like the food is for yourself.

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pkjqpg1h lemmy.zip pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-02-10
#122 · Quote Reply

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reksas sopuli.xyz reksas@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-11
#123 · Quote Reply

But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead. I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.

too bad there isnt a third option, like founding a new party or several.

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Doomsider lemmy.world Doomsider@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#124 · Quote Reply

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Fox ratings silly.

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Delphia lemmy.world Delphia@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#125 · Quote Reply

"In the United States of America". The birthplace of freedom and democracy. The beacon of light and justice in the world. So strange that it is happening over there. Who could have seen this coming? One could expect this to happen anywhere, but in the United States of America? No way.

Even the American left has had their national exceptionalism so deeply ingrained that they cant stop screaming "We're number 1!" while they are drowning.

Thats why they were the perfect mark. The idea that it could happen to them was so preposterous.

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Sanctus anarchist.nexus Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-08
#126 · (edited) Quote Reply

We actually kind of have the alternative to that as well. In Iraq the US took all members of the Baath party of Hussein. It was very clearly a horrible organization, which commited genocide and many other crimes, but doing so removed all sorts of people from power, which had usefull skills and kind of needed to be party members. For example when you built roads, you really need engineers in the...

That literally is what we did and it didnt work. Kill them. So they can never do it again. The Soviets were right.

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7101334 lemmy.world 7101334@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#127 · Quote Reply

Even the American left has had their national exceptionalism so deeply ingrained that they cant stop screaming "We're number 1!" while they are drowning. Thats why they were the perfect mark. The idea that it could happen to them was so preposterous.
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ramenshaman lemmy.world ramenshaman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#128 · Quote Reply

Why don’t you post something? POST SOME TWEETS AND INCLUDE DATE STAMPS!

As someone who avoids X/Twitter like the plague, no.

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possumparty lemmy.blahaj.zone possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-05
#129 · Quote Reply

How about the world cup

Also not watching that.

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osanna lemmy.vg osanna@lemmy.vg
Joined: 2026-02-24
#130 · Quote Reply

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ChillPenguin lemmy.world ChillPenguin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-26
#131 · Quote Reply

And they're after our boundary waters too. I'm so fucking sick of them.

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/home/pineapplelover lemmy.dbzer0.com pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-30
#132 · Quote Reply

Start delivering to us citizens. Accidentally go to leo or republican houses

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Delphia lemmy.world Delphia@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#133 · Quote Reply

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Who said they were?

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SinAdjetivos lemmy.world SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-12
#134 · Quote Reply

But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead. I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.

There were many fumbles.

In addition to running a cop and prosecutor right after 2020 and the litany of broken promises there. It can not be understated how terrible the strategy was of promising to be even tougher on immigration than the current administration.

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MrMakabar slrpnk.net MrMakabar@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-09
#135 · Quote Reply

That literally is what we did and it didnt work. Kill them. So they can never do it again. The Soviets were right.

Iraq did not collapse due to the Baath party members taking over. It collapsed due too few competent people in positions of power. That opened up the prisons and allowed the Baath party members to take over. Killing them would not have stopped Iraq from collapsing, when the US left.

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ZILtoid1991 lemmy.world ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-16
#136 · Quote Reply

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They don't care, they'll just say whomever they deported were MS13 members engaging in "violent pedophilia".

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BCsven lemmy.ca BCsven@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-17
#137 · Quote Reply

write it on a paper? who doesn't remember single address without writing it down? it is not really the point of the message, but it kinda is...

My wife. She's hopeless at remembering an address. She can remember every time I forgot to refill the toilet paper though.

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sureshot0 discuss.online sureshot0@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-12-26
#138 · Quote Reply

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They're not, they're delivering groceries to their neighbors??? Are we reading the same thing???

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CommanderCloon lemmy.ml CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-31
#139 · Quote Reply

The history of denazifying Germany shows that the Allies were torn on this. To summerize: Russia "Okay, let's kill all the Germans." Britain "Oh, but then we're no better than them. We must make due process for all the Nazis." USA "Yeah, I don't think either of you understand the scale of this." And the Americans was right. A due process would have taken centuries, and nobody wanted to pay for ...

Lmfao what ?
First of all it's not Russia, it's the Soviet Union, whichh is an important discussion, and secondly they didn't want to kill all germans, but make sure denazification was fully done, with no risk of having a single nazi left in power.

You're saying it as if they made an outlandish proposal and it was rejected by the others; in reality they had control of East Germany and had no need for anyone's approval in their denazification efforts, which was successful.

Meanwhile nazis that werent notorious enough or part of the holocaust were basically put back in power in West Germany.

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bstix feddit.dk bstix@feddit.dk
Joined: 2023-06-09
#140 · Quote Reply

Lmfao what ? First of all it's not Russia, it's the Soviet Union, whichh is an important discussion, and secondly they didn't want to kill all germans, but make sure denazification was fully done, with no risk of having a single nazi left in power. You're saying it as if they made an outlandish proposal and it was rejected by the others; in reality they had control of East Germany and had no ne...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

Soviet zone: From the beginning, denazification in the Soviet zone was considered a critical element of the transformation into a socialist society and was quickly and effectively implemented. Members of the Nazi Party and its organizations were often brutally beaten before being arrested and interned. The NKVD was directly in charge of this process and oversaw the camps. In 1948, the camps were placed under the same administration as the gulag in the Soviet government. According to official records, 122,600 people were interned; 34,700 of those interned in this process were considered to be Soviet citizens, with the rest being German

Let's math: 122600-34700= 87900 Germans.

Former Nazi officials quickly realized that they would face fewer obstacles and investigations in the zones controlled by the Western Allies. Many of them saw a chance to defect to the West on the pretext of anti-communism.
Conditions in the internment camps were terrible, and between 42,000 and 80,000 prisoners died.

Sure they never directly stated that they deliberately wanted to kill all the Nazi, but the result is still that they did kill a good chunk of them (between 50-90%) in the camps.

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pkjqpg1h lemmy.zip pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-02-10
#141 · Quote Reply

They're not, they're delivering groceries to their neighbors??? Are we reading the same thing???
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sureshot0 discuss.online sureshot0@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-12-26
#142 · Quote Reply

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Well yeah. Who else could you possibly be talking about? Nobody is ruining their own country, that screenshot is about people in a warzone being invaded, not people who are intentionally harming themselves.

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pkjqpg1h lemmy.zip pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-02-10
#143 · Quote Reply

Well yeah. Who else could you possibly be talking about? Nobody is ruining their own country, that screenshot is about people in a warzone being invaded, not people who are intentionally harming themselves.
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sureshot0 discuss.online sureshot0@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-12-26
#144 · Quote Reply

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what

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sureshot0 discuss.online sureshot0@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-12-26
#145 · Quote Reply

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You blame victims of genocide for their own oppression, and now you're accusing me of being a bot. This is projection, as you have no humanity yourself.

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Abundance114 lemmy.world Abundance114@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-23
#146 · Quote Reply

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Land of the free, not the land of free entry.

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The D Quuuuuill slrpnk.net Quill7513@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-06-26
#147 · Quote Reply

What ICE is doing now is just a louder and more brazen version of what they have been doing since their inception.

i have yet to attend a graduation ceremony where someone wasn't crying because they were getting deported the next day

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melsaskca lemmy.ca melsaskca@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-09
#148 · Quote Reply

The new underground railroad. Keep safe all.

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DylanMc6 [any, any] lemmy.dbzer0.com DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-12-04
#149 · Quote Reply

Time to organize

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DylanMc6 [any, any] lemmy.dbzer0.com DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-12-04
#150 · Quote Reply

If that's NOT another reason to study and read socialist theory, I DON'T know what is. Seriously! https://redsails.org/

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tackleberry thelemmy.club tackleberry@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#151 · Quote Reply

At this point, people are making shit up

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