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agamemnonymous
sh.itjust.works
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-15 |
Because if you want anything to change, the pressure has got to be applied in the right direction. If people just keep blaming their neighbours, of course no politician will ever feel like they have to do anything to improve things.
If you want anything to change, you need to take effective actions. The consequence politicians face by taking ineffective actions is maybe not winning their race. The consequence our neighbors face by taking ineffective actions is the erosion of their civil rights. If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings, they're not just going to magically know why you didn't vote or vote third party. Protest voting doesn't apply the pressure you think it does. |
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BassTurd
lemmy.world
BassTurd@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
and didn't sit out the election Wrong. They made a deliberate choice to pursue a platform that would lose them the election because they care more about killing children overseas than they care about not killing children at home. You don't have to like it, but that's what's a fact.
It doesn't matter what they said or pushed for. There were two known commodities, Kamala and Trump, one of them was going to win. Everyone knew what Trump would do. Whether Kamala would have done anything to improve the situation overseas is an unknown, but I guarantee there was a better chance of positive change had she won. Anyone that based their voting off of the DNC instead of their own eyes, again, is an idiot. |
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I_Has_A_Hat
lemmy.world
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-24 |
STOP POSTING TWEETS WITHOUT DATE STAMPS! |
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LoafedBurrito
lemmy.world
LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-26 |
When you vote in racist people, racist things will happen. |
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JcbAzPx
lemmy.world
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
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"You must accept this boot to the neck or we let the crazy guy shoot you," isn't the slam dunk argument you think it is. |
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porous_grey_matter
lemmy.ml
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-12-09 |
If you want anything to change, you need to take effective actions. The consequence politicians face by taking ineffective actions is maybe not winning their race. The consequence our neighbors face by taking ineffective actions is the erosion of their civil rights. If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings, they're not ...
Sure, that's a thing you should do
They actually expend substantial effort and sums of money to find this out, there's nothing magical about it.
On the other hand, voting for them anyway if they do something absolutely abhorrent and beyond any kind of humanity tells them they can get away with anything and is just a race to the bottom. |
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speckofrust
lemmy.dbzer0.com
speckofrust@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-08 |
The problem is that most of us that would protest are not in a financial position to do so. If I participate in a work strike, I won't make the money I need to pay my bills, I'll be evicted, I'll go hungry, I won't be able to feed the family or the pets I will go destitute long before actual change happens. I'm not just making sacrifices, I am making that decision for my whole family. And that'...
I guess US citizens are then in a financial situation similar to what US foreign policy has encouraged in several regions of the world. Anyone can downvote all they want, but US interventionism has had terrible consequences that most US citizens are not even aware of, yet people push back, they resist, despite much greater poverty than most people in the US have to suffer. I’m confident that US citizens can eventually do something concrete against their most recent criminal regime, of which there have been many. We haven’t even yet seen the level of pushback that was mounted during the war on Vietnam, and armed thugs are out there killing your citizens and kidnapping people off the streets. I just hope that pushback comes sooner than later because history shows us that people outside the US tend to suffer much more due to US policy than people inside the US. |
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TheFonz
lemmy.world
TheFonz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
I was told living under Democrats and both parties are basically the same. |
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DarkFuture
lemmy.world
DarkFuture@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-06 |
But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead. I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens. |
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14th_cylon
lemmy.zip
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-29 |
write it on a paper? who doesn't remember single address without writing it down? it is not really the point of the message, but it kinda is... |
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Tryenjer
lemmy.world
Tryenjer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-07 |
write it on a paper? who doesn't remember single address without writing it down? it is not really the point of the message, but it kinda is...
If memory weren't so tattered, people wouldn't be repeating history, though. |
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minorkeys
lemmy.world
minorkeys@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-12 |
Use this as a training ground for avoiding government surveillance? |
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nagaram
startrek.website
nagaram@startrek.websiteJoined: 2023-12-21 |
If memory weren't so tattered, people wouldn't be repeating history, though.
This has never stopped humanity from at least rhyming before |
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Optional
lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
STOP POSTING TWEETS WITHOUT DATE STAMPS!
Why don’t you post something? POST SOME TWEETS AND INCLUDE DATE STAMPS! |
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agamemnonymous
sh.itjust.works
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-15 |
If you actually want to pressure politicians, you do it by contacting them directly to inform them of their failings Sure, that's a thing you should do they're not just going to magically know why you didn't vote or vote third party They actually expend substantial effort and sums of money to find this out, there's nothing magical about it. Protest voting doesn't apply the pressure you think it...
And yet here we are, so clearly they're either drawing the wrong conclusions or they just don't care. Either way, it's not an effective strategy.
Elections don't care about nominal votes, they only care about margins. Candidates don't get any extra powers if they win by 1 vote or 1 million. The race is taking place with or without you. You can help the ones moving slower, or resign yourself and your neighbors to the ones moving faster. But protest voting doesn't stop the race. Write your representatives, protest, build dual power, organize your community, engage in direct action, run for local office; these are all productive strategies. Vote for ideal candidates in primaries. But in the actual election, vote strategically against the most abhorrent and least humane candidate, or you're liable to get them. |
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stylusmobilus
aussie.zone
stylusmobilus@aussie.zone Joined: 2025-09-20 |
Sooner they get this national shutdown done, the easier it is. |
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Ilovethebomb
sh.itjust.works
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-08 |
But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead. I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.
Don't you think people deserve to vote for someone they actually support, rather than the least terrible option though? |
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ricecake
sh.itjust.works
ricecake@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-11 |
Don't you think people deserve to vote for someone they actually support, rather than the least terrible option though?
Sure. That's not mutually incompatible with preferring the least terrible option to the most terrible though. People view it as "Democrats don't deserve to win because they didn't have a good enough candidate", when they should be viewing it as "Democrats didn't field the candidate I deserve, but I still deserve better than the Republican". |
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Lorax
feddit.uk
Lorax@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-05-12 |
Reason ~ why I won't watch the Olympics.
How about the world cup |
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ChexMax
lemmy.world
ChexMax@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-24 |
I know this is meant to refer to eating the paper but what if someone ate the food. Like munching on celery while ICE pulls you out your window.
Lmfao I thought they meant eat the food jfc I am dumb. The worst part is, i've seen this tweet before, and I understood what it meant the first time. Pregnancy brain. This time. I figured neighborhood must be an app like uber eats, and they're saying just act like the food is for yourself. |
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pkjqpg1h
lemmy.zip
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-10 |
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reksas
sopuli.xyz
reksas@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-11 |
But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead. I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.
too bad there isnt a third option, like founding a new party or several. |
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Doomsider
lemmy.world
Doomsider@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
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Fox ratings silly. |
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Delphia
lemmy.world
Delphia@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
"In the United States of America". The birthplace of freedom and democracy. The beacon of light and justice in the world. So strange that it is happening over there. Who could have seen this coming? One could expect this to happen anywhere, but in the United States of America? No way.
Even the American left has had their national exceptionalism so deeply ingrained that they cant stop screaming "We're number 1!" while they are drowning. Thats why they were the perfect mark. The idea that it could happen to them was so preposterous. |
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Sanctus
anarchist.nexus
Sanctus@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-08 |
We actually kind of have the alternative to that as well. In Iraq the US took all members of the Baath party of Hussein. It was very clearly a horrible organization, which commited genocide and many other crimes, but doing so removed all sorts of people from power, which had usefull skills and kind of needed to be party members. For example when you built roads, you really need engineers in the...
That literally is what we did and it didnt work. Kill them. So they can never do it again. The Soviets were right. |
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7101334
lemmy.world
7101334@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
Even the American left has had their national exceptionalism so deeply ingrained that they cant stop screaming "We're number 1!" while they are drowning. Thats why they were the perfect mark. The idea that it could happen to them was so preposterous.
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ramenshaman
lemmy.world
ramenshaman@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-29 |
Why don’t you post something? POST SOME TWEETS AND INCLUDE DATE STAMPS!
As someone who avoids X/Twitter like the plague, no. |
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possumparty
lemmy.blahaj.zone
possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-06-05 |
How about the world cup
Also not watching that. |
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osanna
lemmy.vg
osanna@lemmy.vg Joined: 2026-02-24 |
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ChillPenguin
lemmy.world
ChillPenguin@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-26 |
And they're after our boundary waters too. I'm so fucking sick of them. |
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/home/pineapplelover
lemmy.dbzer0.com
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Start delivering to us citizens. Accidentally go to leo or republican houses |
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Delphia
lemmy.world
Delphia@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
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Who said they were? |
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SinAdjetivos
lemmy.world
SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-12 |
But I've been told Democrats are SO HORRIBLE that we have to allow felon pedophile fascists to run our country instead. I mean Dems fumbled a single foreign affair topic, so it makes sense that we should just let masked unaccountable federal agents violate our Constitutional rights and murder American citizens.
There were many fumbles. In addition to running a cop and prosecutor right after 2020 and the litany of broken promises there. It can not be understated how terrible the strategy was of promising to be even tougher on immigration than the current administration. |
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MrMakabar
slrpnk.net
MrMakabar@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-06-09 |
That literally is what we did and it didnt work. Kill them. So they can never do it again. The Soviets were right.
Iraq did not collapse due to the Baath party members taking over. It collapsed due too few competent people in positions of power. That opened up the prisons and allowed the Baath party members to take over. Killing them would not have stopped Iraq from collapsing, when the US left. |
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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
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They don't care, they'll just say whomever they deported were MS13 members engaging in "violent pedophilia". |
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BCsven
lemmy.ca
BCsven@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-17 |
write it on a paper? who doesn't remember single address without writing it down? it is not really the point of the message, but it kinda is...
My wife. She's hopeless at remembering an address. She can remember every time I forgot to refill the toilet paper though. |
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sureshot0
discuss.online
sureshot0@discuss.online Joined: 2025-12-26 |
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They're not, they're delivering groceries to their neighbors??? Are we reading the same thing??? |
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CommanderCloon
lemmy.ml
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-07-31 |
The history of denazifying Germany shows that the Allies were torn on this. To summerize: Russia "Okay, let's kill all the Germans." Britain "Oh, but then we're no better than them. We must make due process for all the Nazis." USA "Yeah, I don't think either of you understand the scale of this." And the Americans was right. A due process would have taken centuries, and nobody wanted to pay for ...
Lmfao what ? You're saying it as if they made an outlandish proposal and it was rejected by the others; in reality they had control of East Germany and had no need for anyone's approval in their denazification efforts, which was successful. Meanwhile nazis that werent notorious enough or part of the holocaust were basically put back in power in West Germany. |
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bstix
feddit.dk
bstix@feddit.dk Joined: 2023-06-09 |
Lmfao what ? First of all it's not Russia, it's the Soviet Union, whichh is an important discussion, and secondly they didn't want to kill all germans, but make sure denazification was fully done, with no risk of having a single nazi left in power. You're saying it as if they made an outlandish proposal and it was rejected by the others; in reality they had control of East Germany and had no ne...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification
Let's math: 122600-34700= 87900 Germans.
Sure they never directly stated that they deliberately wanted to kill all the Nazi, but the result is still that they did kill a good chunk of them (between 50-90%) in the camps. |
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pkjqpg1h
lemmy.zip
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-10 |
They're not, they're delivering groceries to their neighbors??? Are we reading the same thing???
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sureshot0
discuss.online
sureshot0@discuss.online Joined: 2025-12-26 |
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Well yeah. Who else could you possibly be talking about? Nobody is ruining their own country, that screenshot is about people in a warzone being invaded, not people who are intentionally harming themselves. |
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pkjqpg1h
lemmy.zip
pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-10 |
Well yeah. Who else could you possibly be talking about? Nobody is ruining their own country, that screenshot is about people in a warzone being invaded, not people who are intentionally harming themselves.
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sureshot0
discuss.online
sureshot0@discuss.online Joined: 2025-12-26 |
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what |
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sureshot0
discuss.online
sureshot0@discuss.online Joined: 2025-12-26 |
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You blame victims of genocide for their own oppression, and now you're accusing me of being a bot. This is projection, as you have no humanity yourself. |
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Abundance114
lemmy.world
Abundance114@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-23 |
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Land of the free, not the land of free entry. |
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The D Quuuuuill
slrpnk.net
Quill7513@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-06-26 |
What ICE is doing now is just a louder and more brazen version of what they have been doing since their inception.
i have yet to attend a graduation ceremony where someone wasn't crying because they were getting deported the next day |
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melsaskca
lemmy.ca
melsaskca@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-09 |
The new underground railroad. Keep safe all. |
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DylanMc6 [any, any]
lemmy.dbzer0.com
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-12-04 |
Time to organize |
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DylanMc6 [any, any]
lemmy.dbzer0.com
DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-12-04 |
If that's NOT another reason to study and read socialist theory, I DON'T know what is. Seriously! https://redsails.org/ |
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tackleberry
thelemmy.club
tackleberry@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-01-30 |
At this point, people are making shit up |
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