gotcha. thx.

I would much rather it be something people have to opt into. But as long as it's something they can opt out of it isn't the most egregious thing.

The list is full of junk but it also has sites like fox news.

🤔

but what if the dude pulls a fetterman and next year he is blocking shit you agree with?

Then go to a different site...? What's the actual problem here?

People are not children who need child locks put on their internet.

Except it seems like we do since these platforms have propagandized an entire generation towards far right ideologies.

Why does every fediverse reddit clone have to pull this shit?

People want to live in Echo Chambers.

Politically motivated censorship is the type of thing many people are trying to get away from.

Nah, most of 'em just want to be the ones doing the censoring.

Switching sites is annoying? I'm sure you are aware of that though...

The original post we are commenting on stated instances could not opt out. Or at least I thought it did, I don't know how to check edit history. I'm now aware thats untrue.

"Changing the setting" would involve forking the codebase, as it's hardcoded iirc

For those who really like the idea of blocking the sites on that list, the linked github repo also has it formatted for pihole and the like.

Funny, I blocked your positivity comm because I kept seeing right wing astro turfers posting in your comms as a way to call out serial down voters and do more trolling than positivity. It's no surprise we take different approaches to moderation.

I joined piefed to have a healthier experience with my social media and go figure removing a lot of right wing bullshit does wonders!

Can't disrupt the liberal echo chambers. They are trying to turn a communist creation into Reddit.

Sounds like the liberals they are trying to appease

Remember when they didn't release the rnc emails they hacked, but did release the dnc's? Tell me why that is you think. Be honest with yourself.

Thanks for the hint, I am gonna update my DNS to block the sites from the list as well.

Blocking known disinfo sources is not politically motivated censorship, it's reality motivated censorship.

Just make a different account on a different instance, nothing is stopping you.

you dont think someone posting about how fox news is reporting on something could be relevant? simply linking to an article is not always the poster agreeing with the reporting.

What? You mean lemmy? I have one. If you mean a different piefed instance, that's what I was saying, you'd need to fork the pyfedi repo to remove the list, it's on every instrnce of piefed

Fox news argued in court that they're fictional entertainment and no reasonable person would take their reporting seriously.

It was only about 15 years ago that censorship was an extreme taboo on the internet. I miss those times deeply.

you dont think someone posting about how fox news is reporting on something could be relevant?

that's right. If you want to or not, you are propagating the misinformation and helping them by giving them more exposure for their stats, more data for them to sell and more money for them to gain through ads.

EDIT : What is there to learn from a misinformation link? Everyone knows its misinformation.

My main issue with this actually is its controlled at the instance level. I actually have said I am fine with a default block list as long as it can be changed later. Its understandable that someone having an instance would want a good default experience form their perspective and I can even see it at the code level in this case. I have a few caveats though that make it troublesome for me. One it should be highly advertised or easy to peruse and change. Bigger though is as a user I want as much as possible to be controllable at the user level. So I want to be able to reverse this for myself. I completely understand defederation for legal reasons and the ideal instance for me would deferederat based on that, but I would completely appreciate a default block list for my user that I could then go through and revers if I cared to. I was actually aware of this and do intend to get off my tuckus and move instances because I can't control the blocks but Im lazy and honestly I have no real incentive to unblock any of these but rather on philosophical grounds want the ability to do so. Im kinda hoping the software will evolve to allow a more direct user control like that before I move but its been awhile and I sorta doubt at this point that is going to happen.

are better left

O.o

This coupled with seeing "liberal" used as pejorative every day on this site is kinda wild.

Make your own and opt out or use lemmy since you're complaining specifically about the features that differentiate piefed. Like this is a seriously dumb complaint. Like why would you want active disinformation sources? What benefit does that provide to discourse? Or do you just want disinformation to be disseminated? It's not a matter of fuckin opinion, these sites propagate actual fake news and that's their primary purpose. Fox news literally argued in court they're purely entertainment, like the onion.

Why is info wars still there? Wasn't it taken over by tim.

piefed already blocks by default lemmy.ml, hexbear, and lemmygrad. lol ... it's just a lib echo chamber. I stand corrected.

Since you proclaim to be a Leftist, what's wrong with Lemmy?

I'm starting to think these are deliberate attempts to start a fediverse flame war.

Piefed has an easily lifted block on right wing propoganda, boohoo. Oh no, piefed called a Marxist-Lenninist website Marxist-Lenninist, how can I turn this into drama somehow

Fox news literally argued in court they're purely entertainment, like the onion.

Wait, they did? Wow, accuracy!

Their position is that no reasonable person would believe their reporting as authentic or truthful.

the authoritarians could use some of their own fucking medicine for a bit

Funny how often this is the way it goes. Almost as if the label of "authoritarian" is essentially meaningless.

Other than the suppression of right-wing, counter-revolutionary views and movements (which you seem to approve of), what exactly is your problem with Marxism?

Marxists are not "accelerationists" btw.

Only mildly. At least on Lemmy, I haven't used piefed. The import/export went really well when lemm.ee shut down. And luckily there was an instance with a similar stance (lemmy.zip) to letting you decide what you want blocked.

Why block InfoWars? Tim Heidecker is a treasure.

/s

Funny how often this is the way it goes. Almost as if the label of “authoritarian” is essentially meaningless.

Other than the suppression of right-wing, counter-revolutionary views and movements (which you seem to approve of), what exactly is your problem with Marxism?

Marxists are not “accelerationists” btw.

🥸 : Hello fellow leftists in democratic countries with increasing support for fascist aligned parties. Let's all demonize and vote against the current center left candidates who are the most likely to beat back the authoritarians! Please ignore that I am in no way attempting to engage in any grassroots empowerment of third parties and their eventual path towards replacing the not ideal center left party in your country. Also, my preferred Marxist Lenninist Communist Theorist Authoritarian Left party recieved 4 votes out of a possible trillion last election, but I have a good feeling about this election! Please ignore that my IP address is from Timbuktu, Minsk or Guangdong, and that I get paid to post here 10 hours a day by the FSB/CCP/something else. Only when the current mainstream party is gone, can we replace it with my own hyperspecfic vision of society rebuilt from the ground up on the ashes of the current society. Don't worry about feeding yourself during this horrible violent phase of our lives, it is necessary to move onto FULLY AUTOMATED LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM.

Anyone who disagrees is a hyperzionist child eater.

Okay yeah it’s junk but this is just division

Yeah, I stand by what I said lol

I get that, but we can’t play the free speech for me, not for thee game

I miss when fascists stayed on stormfront and left everyone else the fuck alone; and if they ventured outside, everyone hated them until they left.

https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/domains.txt includes... wikileaks.org 🤦

afaik WikiLeaks still enjoys a spotless accuracy record and obviously has never promoted QAnon.

The fact that some QAnon promoters have themselves cited some WikiLeaks publications is, in my opinion at least, not a reason to prohibit linking to WikiLeaks (a site which hasn't published anything new recently but continues to host a massive archive of public interest documents).

Piefed.social is federated with Lemmy.ml, AFAIK.

Free Speech means the government shouldn't prosecute people for their speech, that's all its ever meant. It doesn't mean non-government places must allow Nazis to say their piece on your platform. That just turns places into Nazi bars.

Right-wingers: I think we should spread hate speech towards minorities

Marxists: Fuck that, you shouldn't be allowed to do that, we shouldn't be tolerant of intolerance

Liberals/you: How dare you evil Marxists be intolerant and suppress free speech, you shouldn't be allowed to spread those ideas

I should be the one posting about the "Paradox of Tolerance," because you clearly don't understand it.

The rest of your comment is just unhinged conspiracy theory shit.

The rest of your comment is just unhinged conspiracy theory shit.

I'd comment about that's how .ml operates, but that's where you're posting from, so we all know what's up.

Assange cozyed up to Trump during his first presidency (despite, you know, the assassination attempts by the US).

Additionally while Wikileaks has never published any proven false information, they have left out information on purpose. During the 2016 election Wikileaks received information on both Clinton and Trump, but primarily published information making Clinton look worse while not publishing information they received on Trump and the republican party.

This editorializing is why they've fallen out of favor over the last decade, again despite not publishing anything known to be false; they chose to withhold information.

This was liberal misinformation, I apologize.

When did the definition of misinformation expand to include saying true things? Should we block the Epstein files from being posted because only part of them has been released?

'easily lifted' isn't really easily lifted, and a platform technology shouldn't be the one implementing blocks. Individual hosts using that technology should be the one to implement blocks.

PieFed is already derivative technology at best, made by a bunch of redditors that didn't like being called right wing for supporting and endorsing genocide. Let's not try to pretend it's okay they want their echo chamber enforced at the platform level like reddit and twitter and facebook already do. The entire fucking internet already caters to you people.

I'm glad you approve of the world as it is right now and hate anything that makes positive change, but leave that to your little echo chamber known as THE ENTIRE PUBLIC INTERNET, and maybe don't invade left wing spaces with it?