you: How dare you evil Marxists be intolerant and suppress free speech, you shouldn't be allowed to spread those ideas

Literally where did that come from? That completely opposes the entire content of their post.

as soon as the authoritarians leave the left wing spaces, sure.

This isn't allowing them on a platform, this is disallowing platforms to choose whether to allow them on a platform based on the opinions of a guy that has endorsed genocide and child rape.

they chose to withhold information

citation needed

the horror

Is there any possible evidence that could falsify your belief that I'm secretly a foreign agent?

Is there any reason to believe that the FSB/CCP have a greater influence over English language discussions than the NSA does? How do I know you're not getting paid off by them?

But what's the point in trying to reason with a conspiracy theorist? Your beliefs have no basis on either evidence or reason so there's no way to change them that way, any more than you could a flat-earther's.

It's what happens when you step out of the west and into any country that are the victims of the west, which is around 176 countries.

Why wouldn't a site that isn't slanted towards coddling western children like liberals and neoliberals be more reflective of the actual majority opinion in the world?

The part where they're arguing for Marxists to be censored so that "authoritarians" get a taste of "their own" medicine.

You're going to go through several thousands of links in ten minutes all to... maybe have a slightly less reddit like experience?

'Authoritarian' is a meaningless buzzword. There is no definition of it that includes 'authoritarian' countries while excluding non'authoritarian' countries.

I don't give a shit, I said my piece.

Define authoritarian in any way that includes what you have been brainwashed to believe is an 'authoritarian' country, but excludes any country you believe isn't authoritarian.

How is emptying a database table not easy? If you're hosting your own public forum that should be child's play.

... supporting and endorsing genocide. ... The entire fucking internet already caters to you people.

This is what I'm upset about. Why does every minor fediverse problem have to devolve into "us vs them (and 'they're definitely nazis btw)"? Piefed doesn't control the entire fediverse platform. If you want propoganda in your feed you can join an instance that allows it. And if you're going to accuse people of supporting genocide bring some fucking proof.

Not everyone on the fediverse is a free speech absolutist and that's fine. Having blocklists doesn't make an instance equal to the corporate hellscape of facebook and reddit. Be upset about things that matter please

I mean, as long as the info is upfront, why does it matter? They are not censoring the Internet, they are censoring their own little chunk of it. That's cool with me, anyway. I myself am not the echo chamber type, but I do sometimes prefer a more civil platform, and in human society that inevitably requires some uniformity or commonality.

I notice you didn't answer the question.

butterymales VS lack of trump disclosures.

Characterized by or favoring absolute obedience to authority, as against individual freedom.

Pretty succinct actually.

Type rimiru into any search engine that crawls lemmy. Any of them. They weren't always a piefed user, and even their recent posts from their piefed.social account trying to rag on /0 users have plenty of evidence posted in response of their support of nazis.

And yes, I am upset that the nazi version of lemmy written by a nazi because for some reason Jewish nazis get a fucking pass in liberal spaces despite having the longest running holocaust in world history so far decides to try to be the arbiter of truth in their little nazi Activitypub technology.

That is a valid reason to be upset. It normalizes whatever they deem as offensive as being blocked by users of PieFed technology, because who the fuck is going to go through several thousand entries to actually audit their work? No one.

So the technology is all or nothing. What looks good to an instance host choosing PieFed over lemmy or m/kbin? All. Because they're not going to spend the days it would take for an independent audit of what this particular nazi thinks is unacceptable, and because 'nothing, build it yourself,' would also take days.

So yes, I will compare the little nazi tech you've chosen to be participant to to the nazi tech used by facebook (marks and sells data on palestinians to israel) and reddit (u/spez, also the term zionazi gets you site-wide permabanned). If you dislike that, choose better.

Cool, so China, Cuba, Russia isn't authoritarian?

You're an enlightened centrist, who the fuck cares about your lazy copypasta.

your mum loves it and I'm not a centrist.

Of course they are authoritarian.

John Lennin

Your definition excludes them, though. In both practice and in context the Communist party of China's constitution has more protections and encouragement for individual freedom than the US or Sweden; and unlike those two China has fully adopted the entirety of the UDHR into its current constitution.

So it's not authoritarian by your definition. Nor is Cuba. Russia on paper also isn't, though in practice they're capitalist so inherently, like all capitalist countries, they would be authoritarian under your definition.

this is disallowing platforms to choose whether to allow them on a platform

The block list is editable by any admin, and the sysadmin can delete the block list entirely.

based on the opinions of a guy that has endorsed genocide and child rape.

Uhh, gonna need a source for that one, Chief.

It takes you more than 10 minutes to run a db transaction?

In both practice and in context the Communist party of China’s constitution has more protections and encouragement for individual freedom than the US or Sweden;

I don't think that's true.

like all capitalist countries, they would be authoritarian under your definition.

That's also blatantly not true. Germany is capitalist yet I am free to criticize the government.

Bold claim from someone denying US participation in genocide. Misinformation is kinda your forte isn't it?

No, you can't. You can go to jail for suggesting Germany's support of Israel is support of genocide.

But specifically both in China and Cuba you're free to criticize the government. Hell there's a ~100k strong protest in China every couple of months regarding the government's apathy towards Israel; and the recent while the most recent cuban 'protests' were more in line with 'encouraging' the government to just spend more money to encourage countries to break the US military blockade, they were still 'criticism' that the government wasn't doing enough.

You will be the very poster child of why we say scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

It would be your support of the oligarchy and the systems that it breeds that is defending and propping up fascism

The block list is editable by any admin, and the sysadmin can delete the block list entirely.

So your choice is trust the genocide guy, spend WEEKS vetting a giant list that is mostly filled with dead links, or have no blocklist?

Gee wilkers I wonder which one most will pick.

...Do you think that is auditing a list?

Do you know what auditing is?

No, the physical action of removing things you already know from a list that may or may not include them is not the problem. No one has claimed it is.

What is the problem is going through the list, thousands of entries, and finding out if they're accurate to what has been claimed. That take going to every single site you don't necessarily recognize, which for a list of thousands will be thousands, and doing even the bare minimum of research.

Feel free to report it. Vote manipulation is against lemmy.world's rules and the moderators can see the ip's.

It would be a quick instance ban.

Do it, you genocidal cunt.

Why would you audit the list? Just remove it lol

No, you can’t. You can go to jail for suggesting Germany’s support of Israel is support of genocide.

That's another lie. Strike three by my count and personally my limit of where I can still maybe see someone as wanting to have an honest conversation. Bye.

You're against everyone progressive, and supposedly against anyone right-wing despite spending hundreds of comments defending the right...

The UN disagrees with you, kiddo. https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/un-experts-urge-germany-halt-criminalisation-and-police-violence-against

Anyone who disagrees is a hyperzionist child eater.

you're not beating the allegations

spending hundreds of comments defending the right…

yeah, find five.

Cool, now you can be spammed by scam sites. Since its the same list.

So you're starting from zero. Congrats. Hope your instance is never, ever actually populated otherwise your entire experience hosting the instance will be spent doing moderation.

Lmao okay, so how would you have it handled then?

Blocklist? Dystopian.

No blocklist? Spam city.

Enlighten us.

I've been searching for 30 minutes and couldn't find what you're talking about. Can the burden of proof lie with the accuser please?

Edit: I'm not disputing that what you say is true, but like i can't find it

Sorry the liberal replying made me actually look this up and it turns out it was misinformation spread from liberal accounts. You're right. Apparently no evidence was ever uncovered that wikileaks ever received the RNC leak that came out a few years after they released the DNC leak; and the majority of Assange's quotes praising Trump were just wholesale made up by various shareblue linked propaganda sites.

Don't offer it by default. Offer a feature. Then, separately entirely from the project, offer a block list or set of block lists. Have that extra step.

Nearly all software users, and yes especially self-hosting server admins, use default settings. By declaring yourself as the arbiter of all things bad and including it by default, you have changed your software from a neutral party, to one that is the arbiter of truth that requires effort to turn off, and that's not something most are going to do.

Thus whatever you say becomes the majority opinion. This isn't a new or surprising opinion btw, it's the literal reason the DMCA has section 230 in the US, and all countries have something similar for platforms, scientific journals, and news organizations.

Don’t offer it by default.

But no blocklist by default = spam city. You already ruled that out when I suggested doing that for PieFed.

Try again?

Apology accepted.