It’s not common knowledge but there is no legal requirement for either party to run democratic primary elections. They used to just pick candidates with no public input. They opened up voting as a concession to their supporters. However, they did so in a way that allows party officials to tip the scales in their favor.

The cruel irony is that the democrats actually have a less democratic primary than republicans simply because their voters interests are not aligned with the interests of party officials. Of course republicans party officials don’t care about democracy either but neither do their voters.

The choice between genocide and slightly less genocide is no choice at all. That’s like asking someone to choose between being stabbed in the lung or the heart. Both are likely to kill you. Any reasonable person in that situation would be doing everything in their power to find another way. Arguing that being stabbed in the lung is somehow the rational choice is ridiculous.

The actionable choice has nothing to do with voting. It has everything to do with organizing, be it in your workplace or your community. You have to create structures that can actually hamstring the power of the state to oppress you and those you care about. You can argue these are unrealistic or not actionable but history shows us that this is actually how progress is made. Even in the US the abolitionist movement, labor movement, and the civil rights movement did not win their demands through strategic voting.

If you want to argue that getting stabbed in the lung is more survivable… okay sure. But you’re an idiot if you think fighting back and trying to disarm your attacker isn’t the rational choice, especially when Americans by and large can’t just pick up and leave. It’s fight or flight but you’re here arguing for people to just accept their demise.

Well said

Mamdani: “Hey, people really seem to resonate with this message and will hand you an easy, landslide win.”

DNC, publicly: “How about you go fuck yourself?”

And more trump. But somehow its not their problem.

Ok. Enjoy your trump then. All of it. All were saying is right the boat first, then fix the problem. Guess hitting the iceberg is an 'acceptable loss'.

They will gaslight themselves into believing they have the most progressive war criminal ever.

actually, from a historical perspective, it's been the Dems who have accelerated ICE. Biden and especially Obama were much more instrumental in the agency coming into more and more power. Trump's getting to play with the toy now, but it was bought by Dems.

Okay that's cool, thanks for accepting this treatment. Now it's election time again, would you like to be stabbed in the heart once, or twice?

Now it's election time again, would you like to be stabbed in the heart twice, or three times?

Three times, or shot in the head?

Shot in the head once, or twice?

You are a frog in boiling water

You think genocide of the Other is an acceptable price to pay to delay having to fight fascism. You have rolled over and collaborated with the nazis because resistance is unfathomable to you. You are a nazi collaborator, and no amount of projecting that guilt will change what you signed your name to.

Iike i said: enjoy all your trump then.

How the fuck would the dnc generate a lefty candidate? Thats like asking the circus to generate something other than a clown.

At least you got the only thing you wanted: no anti-genocide candidate in either party.

You say that “I will not lift a finger to defy genocide until you provide me with detailed plans for insurrection”.

Yeah. That was unfair. You won't lift a finger to defy genocide under any circumstances whatsoever.

Works every time

‘Lol but everyone knows midterms and primaries arent important!’

You sure beat the shit out of that strawman. If you'd had primaries in 2024, we might not be in this mess.

Then again what is the other Option? Not vote for either candidate like in 2024 and let Trump win?

You're the guy in the meme. So devoted to genocide that you can't imagine a better option.

You're so devoted to genocide that you long ago learned that it's a losing issue, but refuse to abandon it anyway.

Not devoted to genocide - but rather when wanting better candidate (a real socialist candidate that does not support the war machine) but instead getting a sock puppet I'd rather try to have the sock puppet instead of letting worse people win.

You have two years to get a candidate that doesn't support the genocide you totally aren't devoted to.

Try not to be the guy in the meme in your reply.

You don't need a plan to continue supporting the genocidal status quo.

Oh no, your empire, the one with the "other policies", just attacked iran bipartisanly

I am reminded of two quotes from Fear And Loathing On The Campaign Trail '72 by Hunter S. Thompson:

How many more of these stinking, double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me and the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote FOR something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils?

Jesus! Where will it end? How low do you have to stoop in this country to be President?

How low? Now, I guess we know. Voting for the lesser evil for 50 years has got you Trump. Twice. How much lower are you going to go?

I have no solutions. Things will probably have to break completely before the mending can begin.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/i-wont-vote/

Since I was twenty-one in 1889, I have in theory followed the voting plan strongly advocated by Sidney Lens in The Nation of August 4, i.e., voting for a third party even when its chances were hopeless, if the main parties were unsatisfactory; or, in absence of a third choice, voting for the lesser of two evils

Well that's a depressing read. The American rot runs deep. It's frankly disturbing how accurate that article still is.

The writer drops some great lines though.

Thanks.

Compulsory voting would solve so many issues. HST's take really falls apart when you consider the amount of people not participating in their democracy.

sure, they only massively deported brown people, started wars, helped genociders etc....
As long as none of those democratic 'other policies' targeted white americans you kept your mouth shut.
you deserve this, and more.
fuck all you scumbags

Youre so devoted to your issue yould give your kids to a literal child rapist because you were against corruption and outside of raping kids, the rapist had a pretty clean track record on corruption.

Only trump doesnt have a clean record on curruption. But youre fine with that. Like how youre trying to distract trom thr fact that his israel now attacked iran. Oh well.

Youre so devoted to your issue yould give your kids to a literal child rapist

I voted for Harris. I also knew that she was going to lose if she didn't abandon your only policy.

Of course you don't give a shit about other countries. Defending the holy DNC while they are mass murdering.

You both are right but one is more consequential. Let's dive in:

Bombing Iran does not have bipartisan support, many Dems are voicing their opposition. The Dems even advanced a bill where the president would need congressional review to specifically bomb Iran in this instance.

The President making unilateral military decisions like bombing Iran does have bipartisan support. The Dems have not challenged it's constitutionality or proposed significant changes on this front and instead go for a case by case congressional veto. This policy also aides in our genocidal program of Gaza...

There are people inside too, though.

You care more about posturing and virtue signaling your purity than you care about other countries.

-Guy who supports genocide and imperialism against other countries and is now talking like a 2015 pepe the frog poster

The "people" inside:

Electorally lobotomized

Well apparently the rest of the sitouts didnt feel the same way. Apparently also youre proud of the land they built for you. Good on you then. Your anger is misdirected.

Partly... Look at the original Nazis. The nazi part is usually added to make the distinction with different periods - but for that period, the whole nation is referred to as nazi Germany.

Sure buddy. Im sure Iran and gaza thank your sitouts for their 'principles'. Cuba next.

Well apparently the rest of the sitouts

Genocidal shit makes it a point to demonstrate that they never listen to anyone not named netanyahu.

Those "people" are not inside though, they built or exploited the whole railway and happily fly in their own jets, while keeping passangers as hostages and tying as many strangers to rails as they can.

Thats exactly why the sitouts sat out. Because of gaza they let trump win again, and everyone is paying the price. The party is what it aleays has been. Voting either way in 2024 wouldnt have changed that. But not voting trump would have avoided all this shit, and we could then figure out how to fix the party, you know, by not ignoring the midterms. Only now he IS in power, we ARE deep in shit, Gaza is worse off than it has ever been, netanyahu is still impudent as ever, and it remains to be seen whether the midterms still matter to these idiots.

Oh, and iran burns. Watch people now spin that as a good thing.

Why are you trying to convince me to vote how I voted in an election that already went the way you wanted? You got your genocide and that's the only thing you care about. You were willing to accept all of this as long as no one got the choice to vote against the genocide you and all centrists masturbate to.