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SirSamuel
lemmy.world
SirSamuel@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Mexico better watch out. Idiocracy and The Day After Tomorrow were pre-cog documentaries |
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FlexibleToast
lemmy.world
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Climate change is not boding well for Mexico unfortunately. You can expect severe water shortages in the coming decades.
Yeah, that's true. |
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RichardNixos
lemmy.ml
RichardNixos@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-10 |
¡Viva México, cabrones! |
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Gammelfisch
lemmy.world
Gammelfisch@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-05 |
Hang on. Nothing is for free, but bravo Mexico for socializing medical care through taxation. The USA should be taking notes to extinguish their massive healthcare dumpster fire. |
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NottaLottaOcelot
lemmy.ca
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-12 |
Conservative America is driven so hard by the fear of somebody poorer than you getting something you're not.
America wants things to be free when it’s for themselves, but not to pay a dime to benefit anyone else |
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Agent641
lemmy.world
Agent641@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-12 |
But what if they abuse it by being like...sick?
This is going to be terrible for the shareholders and the health insurance companies! |
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scarabic
lemmy.world
scarabic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
not free; tax funded Which is great! Taxes should be invested in citizens’ needs.
There are so many health services that can be delivered en masse at very little cost. I once lived in a “3rd world” country with state sponsored healthcare. They had an army of nurses in shop storefronts delivering vaccines and basic meds for common illnesses. Just walk in. Nothing fancy - one of them literally reused hypodermic needles after sterilizing them with a bunsen burner. But how fancy does it actually need to be? |
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scarabic
lemmy.world
scarabic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Free as in "free at the point of service". Of course it is paid for somehow. But as far a a someone going into a hospital to get a cast, medicine, birth... It's free
Yes I mean nothing is free if we try to be strict about it. The word would have no meaning. I think we all understand “sold at zero price” but there are always people in the crowd who want to pop up and say “it’s not free! someone pays!” Typically their next move is to start breaking down who pays and why it’s unfair. I have no patience for them. |
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orbitz
lemmy.ca
orbitz@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-30 |
not free; tax funded Which is great! Taxes should be invested in citizens’ needs.
I agree, as a Canadian even if not perfect I couldn't imagine having a pay system or even what the US calls healthcare. That's the point of taxation, we get roads that are drivable, healthcare that is affordable and stuff like food standards, clean drinking water, education. The billionaires are trying to say everyone else doesn't need such things so they can get a bigger nibble of the pie when they already have truckloads. |
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explodicle
sh.itjust.works
explodicle@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-04-11 |
I'm sure you need to be a Mexican citizen to qualify for the program, I imagine foreigners get a bill. But I'm an American that expects a crippling bill from medical care so I have a bias.
In some countries they don't even have the financial infrastructure to bill patients, so injured tourists get free health care. A big chunk of American medical bills is due to the cost of billing. |
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huppakee
lemmy.world
huppakee@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-05-15 |
Yes I mean nothing is free if we try to be strict about it. The word would have no meaning. I think we all understand “sold at zero price” but there are always people in the crowd who want to pop up and say “it’s not free! someone pays!” Typically their next move is to start breaking down who pays and why it’s unfair. I have no patience for them.
I dont have patience for those people either, but in general a lot of people feel taxes are the state taking away money. Where i live this is true for large corpo's and rich folk ('the state should not waste money on things people can pay for by themselves' is how they tend to put it here), but also by people with low wages tend to complain about how the state robs them. Reminding them how things they use are funded by the taxes they pay (roads, hospitals, police, education) can help them; because here they tend to fall for the retoric of the parties serving the rich and they sometimes truly believe the country would be nicer if they paid less taxes (not understanding they would have much more trouble paying for things like education and healthcare). For that reason I much prefer 'tax-funded healthcare/public transport/education', as calling it free is like giving a weapon to the group of people and corporations trying to lower their tax burden (and getting out of their responsibilities as the heavy lifters of funding public services). |
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huppakee
lemmy.world
huppakee@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-05-15 |
Yeah, that's true.
But in Mexico the remaining water is less likely to be hoarded by billionaires, so you might still have better access to water after all. |
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Imgonnatrythis
sh.itjust.works
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-09-23 |
If you'd told any American 40 years ago that Mexico's democracy in 2026 would make Americas look pathetic, they'd have called you crazy and then beaten you up. Not so much anymore.
They'd probably still beat you up. And then shoot you. |
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lolrightythen
lemmy.world
lolrightythen@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-25 |
But in Mexico the remaining water is less likely to be hoarded by billionaires, so you might still have better access to water after all.
Can we make communities that are underground? Like fallout or silo |
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huppakee
lemmy.world
huppakee@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-05-15 |
Mexican here. They are saying everything is free now, but there are not enough medicines, doctors or hospitals so is just a shallow gesture.
But now you can say your healthcare system is as good as the one in the UK, which is nice. It's not like the US can say that. |
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Sarcasmo220
lemmy.ml
Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml Joined: 2022-03-19 |
They'd probably still beat you up. And then shoot you.
USA! USA! |
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Awesomo85
sh.itjust.works
Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-09-17 |
Hang on. Nothing is for free, but bravo Mexico for socializing medical care through taxation. The USA should be taking notes to extinguish their massive healthcare dumpster fire.
Damn! I'm about to go get the free shit in Mexico! Maybe they will get tired of subsidizing medical care for illegal immigrants and build a wall! |
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Lemminary
lemmy.world
Lemminary@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-13 |
How will this impact the medical tourism industry that Americans depend on for affordable healthcare?
It'll probably stay the same. This administration is very aware of these issues and I doubt they'll intervene. Private practice is already available to anyone who wants it, no questions asked. Source: am Mexican living in Mexico |
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Masterbaexunn
lemmy.world
masterbaexunn@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-06 |
Literally have had this since the 1940s though |
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Dharma Curious (he/him)
slrpnk.net
dharmacurious@slrpnk.netJoined: 2024-03-22 |
In some countries they don't even have the financial infrastructure to bill patients, so injured tourists get free health care. A big chunk of American medical bills is due to the cost of billing.
Which countries? Asking for a friend |
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Aniki
feddit.org
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-21 |
not free; tax funded Which is great! Taxes should be invested in citizens’ needs.
also money is fictional so i consider it "free" if it helps the people actually. |
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chocrates
piefed.world
chocrates@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-08 |
Mexican here. They are saying everything is free now, but there are not enough medicines, doctors or hospitals so is just a shallow gesture.
How are things generally? |
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CoolSouthpaw
lemmy.world
CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-10 |
Who's the shithole country now, America? 😂 |
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NottaLottaOcelot
lemmy.ca
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-12 |
They'd probably still beat you up. And then shoot you.
They probably still will… |
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BeMoreCareful
lemmy.world
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Which countries? Asking for a friend
I never went to surgery or anything, but I've been to a couple of Drs in Mexico and it's basically just like paying the copay and just peacing out. Most of the time you can just ask the pharmacist and they prescribe whatever right there. You're overestimating the American Healthcare system. |
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Waraugh
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Congratulations Mexico! It’s nice to read a positive article for once. Happy for everyone this allows a pathway to getting the healthcare treatment they deserve. |
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Jarix
lemmy.world
Jarix@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Hang on. Nothing is for free, but bravo Mexico for socializing medical care through taxation. The USA should be taking notes to extinguish their massive healthcare dumpster fire.
Free to the user at the time they need it and after they leave. Seriously dude no one doesn't understand that |
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Jarix
lemmy.world
Jarix@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Healthcare in Mexico has been free and public for decades. There are still paid private practices and having social security limits the public providers you can use but Article 77 Bis-1 of the General Health Law states that anyone without social security can be treated for free. That article was first published in 2002 and last modified in 2023. This is just the administration claiming that the...
"without social security can be treated" I read that as without social media and had to back the truck up after a couple seconds lol |
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TigerAce
lemmy.dbzer0.com
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-13 |
Luckily the US built a border wall so Mexico won't be overflooded with illegal immigrants trying to profit the free health care. |
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ColeSloth
discuss.tchncs.de
ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-08-18 |
America does. They just suffer from capitalism.
We pay out the ass and still have to schedule a surgery 4 months out or just argue with insurance denials for cancer treatment until we die first. Show up to an ER with something that won't immediately kill you and be prepared to wait for 5 hours so a doctor can see you for literally 5 minutes. Nursing homes will bill you $4,000 a month to share a room while you wait to dies, with staff going down to like 2 people for 60 people after 7pm. The only ones there's enough doctors for are the wealthy. Everywhere else your screwed, and also get billed into permanent debt. It's like $15,000 just to have a baby. Heart attack will run you six figures . |
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BCsven
lemmy.ca
BCsven@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-17 |
Literally have had this since the 1940s though
Mexico's was fragmented aoarenrly so these steps are harmonizing it all.
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BCsven
lemmy.ca
BCsven@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-17 |
I'm sure you need to be a Mexican citizen to qualify for the program, I imagine foreigners get a bill. But I'm an American that expects a crippling bill from medical care so I have a bias.
We have free at point of service health care in Canada for those signed up to the plan. You don't have to be a citizen just a resident and wait your 2 month grace period. For tourists and non signed up folks you pay the costs out of pocket, but they are reasonable compared to USA. A coworker wasn't here long enough for the signup and dislocated his shoulder. Hospital visit, xray, sling, etc $400 |
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Talentless Sculptor
lemmy.world
Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-10 |
Can we make communities that are underground? Like fallout or silo
Humans don't do very well without exposure to sunlight. |
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Felis_Catus_Domesticus
lemmy.world
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-06-07 |
Congratulations Mexico! It’s nice to read a positive article for once. Happy for everyone this allows a pathway to getting the healthcare treatment they deserve.
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Felis_Catus_Domesticus
lemmy.world
Felis_Catus_Domesticus@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-06-07 |
Literally have had this since the 1940s though
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Talentless Sculptor
lemmy.world
Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-10 |
No country has enough medicine, doctors, or hospitals.
Mexico has around 25 Doctors per 100000 capita. That is lower than almost all European countries that averaged 40 Doctors per 100000 capita. When it comes to nurses, the comparison is worse. 29/100000capita in Mexico and over 100/100000capita in Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, Germany, Austria, Ireland, Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands. With no EU nation falling below 40/100000capita. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/doctors-per-capita-by-country |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
Humans don't do very well without exposure to sunlight.
You can manufacture fish-eye glass domes that sit on the surface and lead to mirror-walled tubes that parascopically carry the sunlight to the deeper into the catacombs and distribute it to each chamber. The outlets could basically just be slightly convex glass discs to fill the whole space with light, with simple aperture adjustments to control the amount of light in the room. |
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TheFrirish
tarte.nuage-libre.fr
TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.frJoined: 2025-11-16 |
You're not kidding. Some towns like Los Algodones built their entire economy around medical tourism.
Wel now it will be called Los Aldogones |
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Wildmimic
anarchist.nexus
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexusJoined: 2025-09-05 |
You can manufacture fish-eye glass domes that sit on the surface and lead to mirror-walled tubes that parascopically carry the sunlight to the deeper into the catacombs and distribute it to each chamber. The outlets could basically just be slightly convex glass discs to fill the whole space with light, with simple aperture adjustments to control the amount of light in the room.
I don't remember where, but i've seen architecture that moved natural sunlight throughout the whole complex. If anyone knows it, i would be thrilled to revisit that. Edit: i remember it used mirrors to move the sunlight, if that helps. |
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Talentless Sculptor
lemmy.world
Talentlesssculptor@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-10 |
You can manufacture fish-eye glass domes that sit on the surface and lead to mirror-walled tubes that parascopically carry the sunlight to the deeper into the catacombs and distribute it to each chamber. The outlets could basically just be slightly convex glass discs to fill the whole space with light, with simple aperture adjustments to control the amount of light in the room.
Aren't you just describing fiber optic cables? |
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m3t00🌎🇺🇦
lemmy.world
m3t00@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-01 |
Luckily the US built a border wall so Mexico won't be overflooded with illegal immigrants trying to profit the free health care.
too late. migration started years ago. as long as the gringos bring money. |
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TigerAce
lemmy.dbzer0.com
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-13 |
too late. migration started years ago. as long as the gringos bring money.
Careful what you wish for. I don't want them in my country, even if they bring money. They fuck everything up. I'm not anti immigrants and refugees, they are welcome, they should be treated better, like equals which sadly isn't always the case in my country. But Americans are a different story. There are some proper Americans, I have a few American friends that are proper, but in general I don't like to have Americans around. Even their money can fuck everything up. Like raise property prices so locals can't buy property anymore. Same with groceries etc. It's better to keep them isolated in their own mess. Otherwise they will leave the mess they made to create more mess where you live, then to go somewhere else after that. Irresponsible and selfish people will only bring misery onto others. In the movie Team America they have a nice saying. "There are pussies, dicks and assholes". Right now Americans are the assholes. They need to get fucked "otherwise you will have all your pussies and dicks all covered in shit." |
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m3t00🌎🇺🇦
lemmy.world
m3t00@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-01 |
I was literally just thinking retiring to Mexico doesn't sound terrible in the future.
if you want the lifestyle. areas with many expats have higher prices. lake chapala area is one. speak spanish |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Who's the shithole country now, America? 😂
Argentina |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
Aren't you just describing fiber optic cables?
Similar concept, except using mirror-walled empty tubes instead of strands of clear fiber. It's not for transmitting data, just distributing natural light. |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
USA! USA!
Booooorn in the USM |
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parricc
lemmy.world
parricc@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
Careful what you wish for. I don't want them in my country, even if they bring money. They fuck everything up. I'm not anti immigrants and refugees, they are welcome, they should be treated better, like equals which sadly isn't always the case in my country. But Americans are a different story. There are some proper Americans, I have a few American friends that are proper, but in general I don'...
Honestly, you're getting a bad bias from the kinds of Americans that currently are immigrating there. The important thing to understand is you don't want the Americans with money, you want the Americans without any money that are willing to work and help other people out. Lol. See, what you've got right now are all of the rich assholes that don't care about the culture or people of where they're moving to - they just want to live like kings in a cheap city that they can turn into an asshole bubble that prices all of the normal people out. Rich people are leeches. Ultimately, the world would be a better place with open borders everywhere, but no rich assholes. Think about why borders even exist. In what world does it matter? The only reason is ultimately just rich assholes not wanting to dilute their wealth. The best thing we can do at this point is to convince them to go to Mars and leave them there. |
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AeronMelon
lemmy.world
aeronmelon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-26 |
Better put their own wall up before the Americans start pouring in.
This has been happening for several decades. My grandmother used to take regular trips across the border from Corpus Cristi to get her meds at pennies on the dollar. |
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FrederikNJS
piefed.zip
FrederikNJS@piefed.zip Joined: 2026-01-17 |
Which countries? Asking for a friend
The ones i know: Denmark, England, Sweden, Norway But I would imagine that most other countries with unified tax paid healthcare would be the same. |
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Tabula_stercore
lemmy.world
Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-19 |
if you want the lifestyle. areas with many expats have higher prices. lake chapala area is one. speak spanish
"Expats" code word for fortune seeking migrant |
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