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zbyte64
awful.systems
zbyte64@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-06 |
Before we build I have some notes based on the failure mode the tweet exposes. Why would the vault door be built in such a way that it can be reopened? Seems like over-engineering to me This thing doesn’t need to be sustainable for 10 years, it just needs to look like it will be. 10 days is more than enough for our purposes I should think
I bet those billionaires could make the system more efficient if they were properly motivated. |
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Owl
mander.xyz
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyzJoined: 2023-06-09 |
They will also be told the world is about to end
They would already know the trick, since they would likely be the ones who came up with it. Whatever revolution you do just institutes a new elite instead of the old one |
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Patrikvo
lemmy.zip
Patrikvo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-18 |
If you know the TV series "Billionaires' Bunker", why not take inspiration from that? Rip them off buildinga fake nuclear shelter, create a fake narative and lock them up for good. |
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msage
programming.dev
msage@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
What would really happen Other greedy fucks and power hungry people would replace them. We need a sustainable way to stop this being possible, banishing the rich by itself wont do shit.
Everybody who shows any hunger for power goes to the bunker. |
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parody
lemmings.world
parody@lemmings.world Joined: 2024-06-13 |
What would really happen Other greedy fucks and power hungry people would replace them. We need a sustainable way to stop this being possible, banishing the rich by itself wont do shit.
It is probably harder to trick the next thousand richest people to go to their bunkers |
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MousePotatoDoesStuff
lemmy.world
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-09 |
I was hoping for something like:
Also, why would she be afraid of them? Without the system of power that upheld them, they are about as dangerous as the average human. Possibly less. If anything, they're the ones who should be afraid. Especially the ones on the Epstein list. |
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qarbone
lemmy.world
qarbone@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-02 |
I was hoping for something like: "You were", she answered without hesitation. Also, why would she be afraid of them? Without the system of power that upheld them, they are about as dangerous as the average human. Possibly less. If anything, they're the ones who should be afraid. Especially the ones on the Epstein list.
That's way too on-the-nose. And she could just be screaming to get people's attention to an outbreak of vermin. People scream when they see a mouse in their house, and mice haven't even ruined the world in centuries. |
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MousePotatoDoesStuff
lemmy.world
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-09 |
Over the long term, there really isn't. Outside of a government imposing tyranny-tier control over everyone's wealth, wealth inequality happens naturally, and inevitably, and the gap widens similarly. What's more important is making sure that even the poorest among us can have a decent standard of living. After all, if you waved a magic wand and now everyone in the US, for example, was earning ...
How about changing taxes so that it's impossible for individuals to have more wealth than entire nations? |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
And cut the power so the sump pumps fail. Block up the air vents. They will get sent off like the pharaohs.
Why waste a perfectly good latrine? |
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bampop
lemmy.world
bampop@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-12 |
As much as I like the idea of locking billionaires away; the system that created them would still remain, their companies would still exist and there would still be plenty of unfeeling psychopaths with nothing but greed in their hearts.
As a species, we need to find a way to manage power, so that it isn't handed to the greediest, most dishonest, most evil and irresponsible people. If we are to survive as a species, we have to do better. It's not that we're fundamentally incapable of solving the problem. But the people currently in power will fight tooth and nail against any attempt to find or implement such a solution, since that will mean the loss of the power and privilege that they value above all else. |
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Lucidlethargy
sh.itjust.works
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-28 |
We can do both. |
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🦄🦄🦄
feddit.org
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-24 |
Nahhh fam we gonna pour concrete down their lil air holes hihi |
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🦄🦄🦄
feddit.org
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-24 |
Massive understatement—they're actually the only things that could truly be "solutions" at all in anything approaching long-term.
Cool so we will remove the impediments of those structural changes (or rather the heads of those impediments) first and then we can have structural change :) |
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peaceful_world_view
lemmy.world
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-01-31 |
Billionaires are the result of Capitalism, change the system, no more parasitic billionaires. Also chop off their heads. |
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Beero
lemmy.world
Beero@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Billionaires are the result of Capitalism, change the system, no more parasitic billionaires. Also chop off their heads.
So who runs shit in utopia? |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
Come to think of it, this is a wonderful idea...no assassinations needed. |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
So who runs shit in utopia?
Me, of course ^_^ |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
As a species, we need to find a way to manage power, so that it isn't handed to the greediest, most dishonest, most evil and irresponsible people. If we are to survive as a species, we have to do better. It's not that we're fundamentally incapable of solving the problem. But the people currently in power will fight tooth and nail against any attempt to find or implement such a solution, since t...
The solution: become the mole people, and live in a small lynchocraty until the surface people drive themselves extinct. |
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kablez
lemmy.world
kablez@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-02 |
So who runs shit in utopia?
A bunch of nerds who only cared about perfection. That way the idea can't be corrupted cause a nerd's obsession is more powerful than anything. |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
What would really happen Other greedy fucks and power hungry people would replace them. We need a sustainable way to stop this being possible, banishing the rich by itself wont do shit.
That's why I gave up hope. I realized even if they got overthrown, and there was a power change, there would be just a surface-level change, with all the corrupt and sick shit, still happening underneath a democracy-flavored world. |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
Before we build I have some notes based on the failure mode the tweet exposes. Why would the vault door be built in such a way that it can be reopened? Seems like over-engineering to me This thing doesn’t need to be sustainable for 10 years, it just needs to look like it will be. 10 days is more than enough for our purposes I should think
I would legit be happy if they spent 10 years eating rations in a concrete tomb. |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
I dunno, they probably would taste like shit. Are you familiar with composting?
They should be launched into the sun, so that we don't recycle the evil. |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
Considering the housing crises in many places, maybe it would be better to just leave their bodies in the forest
New ones tend to spawn, as soon as you kill the old mob. |
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Brummbaer
pawb.social
Brummbaer@pawb.socialJoined: 2026-02-11 |
A bunch of nerds who only cared about perfection. That way the idea can't be corrupted cause a nerd's obsession is more powerful than anything.
That's basically how the bureaucratic class aka. the states middle management works. |
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WorldsDumbestMan
lemmy.today
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today Joined: 2024-12-05 |
They would already know the trick, since they would likely be the ones who came up with it. Whatever revolution you do just institutes a new elite instead of the old one
This is why I'm thinking more along the lines of what Posadists were thinking. |
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Brummbaer
pawb.social
Brummbaer@pawb.socialJoined: 2026-02-11 |
That's way too on-the-nose. And she could just be screaming to get people's attention to an outbreak of vermin. People scream when they see a mouse in their house, and mice haven't even ruined the world in centuries.
This! It's like having an outbreak of a long forgotten disease in this scenario, won't end humanity, but not great either. |
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harrison_fnord
reddthat.com
harrison_fnord@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-01-06 |
A bunch of nerds who only cared about perfection. That way the idea can't be corrupted cause a nerd's obsession is more powerful than anything.
But what is perfection? System version 1.7.586 is coming out tomorrow. Still better than the bs we are all running now. |
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UltraMagnus0001
lemmy.world
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Fallout |
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cub Gucci
lemmy.today
vivalapivo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-15 |
Billionaires are the result of Capitalism, change the system, no more parasitic billionaires. Also chop off their heads.
That's where you lose. Keep it vague like "eat the rich" |
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87Six
lemmy.zip
87Six@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-19 |
Nahhh fam we gonna pour concrete down their lil air holes hihi
No Cum I will provide it |
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kreskin
lemmy.world
kreskin@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-11-03 |
So who runs shit in utopia?
autonomous collective seriously though, are you saying capitalism is the best humans can ever have? |
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PhoenixDog
lemmy.world
PhoenixDog@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-01-14 |
Come to think of it, this is a wonderful idea...no assassinations needed.
Until they get out. |
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jack_of_sandwich
lemmy.sdf.org
jack_of_sandwich@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-12 |
He knows what he did! |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
All right, so that's Plan A. |
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BarneyPiccolo
lemmy.today
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Billionaires are the result of Capitalism, change the system, no more parasitic billionaires. Also chop off their heads.
We don't have to totally change the system. They can keep making billions of dollars, we can just tax 99% of it. Maybe they'll pay their employees more, if they know it's only going to get taxed away anyhow. And if they don't, well just take it from them. |
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NottaLottaOcelot
lemmy.ca
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-12 |
“The Future” by Naomi Alderman goes somewhere along these lines |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
As much as I like the idea of locking billionaires away; the system that created them would still remain, their companies would still exist and there would still be plenty of unfeeling psychopaths with nothing but greed in their hearts.
Sounds like step one in a long process |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
Sounds a bit like The Defenders (Phillip K. Dick) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Defenders_(short_story)
Dude was a time traveler or something, had to be |
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Avicenna
programming.dev
Avicenna@programming.dev Joined: 2025-11-07 |
Yes please |
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melsaskca
lemmy.ca
melsaskca@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-09 |
This is funny because it's true. |
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The D Quuuuuill
slrpnk.net
Quill7513@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-06-26 |
So who runs shit in utopia?
we the people |
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The D Quuuuuill
slrpnk.net
Quill7513@slrpnk.netJoined: 2023-06-26 |
Until they get out.
that's why we will block the doors |
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batshit
lemmings.world
batshit@lemmings.world Joined: 2023-09-27 |
As a species, we need to find a way to manage power, so that it isn't handed to the greediest, most dishonest, most evil and irresponsible people. If we are to survive as a species, we have to do better. It's not that we're fundamentally incapable of solving the problem. But the people currently in power will fight tooth and nail against any attempt to find or implement such a solution, since t...
That's why we should build an aligned ASI and give it all the power |
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mister_flibble
sh.itjust.works
mister_flibble@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Fallout S1 reveals what would really happen. ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Incontent with their underground paradise, they go out and obliterate all forms of civilization that aren’t them. :::
Do the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy version then. Load them all into a ship, tell them we've discovered a habitable planet and we're sending our best and brightest to start a new civilization, and fire them into space. Pretty sure you could at least get rid of Elon that way. |
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Honytawk
discuss.tchncs.de
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2026-02-20 |
So who runs shit in utopia?
Anyone but the ones doing it for profit. I'd be up for a technocratie |
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Honytawk
discuss.tchncs.de
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2026-02-20 |
No Cum I will provide it
You gonna fuck the air holes or something? This is the incident with the dolphins in Seaworld all over! |
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Honytawk
discuss.tchncs.de
Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2026-02-20 |
Do the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy version then. Load them all into a ship, tell them we've discovered a habitable planet and we're sending our best and brightest to start a new civilization, and fire them into space. Pretty sure you could at least get rid of Elon that way.
Too big of a cost. Tell them we have a ship, and once they all gather with a big fanfare, roll out the guillotine while fireworks go off. |
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Jax
sh.itjust.works
Jax@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-22 |
The death of literacy makes me sad. Edit: post is riddled with grammatical errors and fucking 'catastrophy' — yet I get downvoted. Read a book, something that actually had an editor — then keep reading more books. You will develop literacy eventually. |
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otter
lemmy.dbzer0.com
otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-11-18 |
Fallout S1 reveals what would really happen. ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Incontent with their underground paradise, they go out and obliterate all forms of civilization that aren’t them. :::
Not that it isn't the likely result of said group unexpectedly oozing out of their fuck-off cocoons dotting the wasteland their forebears created, but... spoilerthe vault dwellers weren't exactly Reavers, sowing psychotic ruin in every step. More like baby Nazis squirming from the nursery vats, blinking in the light of the new world and unaware yet that the world doesn't want or need them. 🤓🤌🏼 |
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Tattorack
lemmy.world
Tattorack@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-28 |
Also chop off their heads. That's where you lose. Keep it vague like "eat the rich"
But I'm not into vore. |
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