Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there).

Thank you for recognizing statesia my ego gets a little wonky if it goes unnoticed

Israel ideology was always Zionism and their policies was always the publicity of settler colonialism so until Israel stop acting like Nazis and end occupation I can't support that state and anybody who whitewash it.

Again I said that feddit mods are allowing people defending the ideology and not just people talking about it from an historical standpoint

The history of the colonization of Palestine by zionists started in 1948 and not the bullshit of the conflict being several centuries old like Trump try to portray . Palestinians didn't have a problem with jews they has a problem with the zionists plan to occupy them

This comes from an israeli source

In 1884 the first Yemenites settled in Silwan and for 45 years lived peacefully and on very good terms with their Arab neighbors. It seemed that the people of Silwan, which was known to be a poor village, found common ground with the poor Jewish Yemenites that lived among them.

Despite the attempt to depict the 1929 Arab Riot as a violent incident against the Jews in Silwan, it is clear that it was not the case. From a letter of gratitude that the Yemenite Jews sent to their Arab neighbors, we can learn about the devotion and benevolence that the Arabs have shown towards the Yemenites by undauntedly protecting them, and also about the amity and good neighborly relations that prevailed between the two communities.

https://emekshaveh.org/en/yemenites/

Usually how that works. Personally what’s going on over there, fuck em both. All they want is violence. Let them have it. Problem solves itself eventually.

Few ever explicitly call for Palestinian genocide in mixed company. Instead they hasbara. And most Zionists in the fediverse are liberal Zionists who don’t want to see a genocide, but somehow still haven’t come to terms with reality after almost a year and a half of genocide.

Hamas is the main force of the Palestinian resistance, a coalition force actively fighting against genocide.

I'm just wondering how long the mods or world admins let it go. Usually they kill things like this quickly unless it's something attacking ml

You know that was hasbara, right? Previously:

conflation of state and people that Hamass ideology clearly makes

A Document of General Principles and Policies

by largely targeting and slaughtering civilians in their homes

That is not what happened. That is what Western media said happened.

• The Intercept:
  • Netanyahus War on Truth
  • The Story Behind the New York Times October 7 Expos�
• Al Jazeera: Why did Israel deploy Hannibal Directive, allowing killing of own citizens?
• Electronic Intifada: How Israel killed hundreds of its own people on 7 October

 

If Hamas wants to dismantle Israeli oppression through activism, negotiations, and political reform great.

1. It has tried to do that for decades. The most recent significant attempt was Great March of Return, wherein the IDF slaughtered Gazans.

Communists and fascists are diametric opposites. Communists seek to collectivize production and distribution to fulfill the needs of everyone. Fascists seek the preservation of private property and the extermination of labor organizers. Lazily equating the two and doing nothing to back it up is just "enlightened" centrism.

Good thing I didn't say communist then

Dude, how can you be any more based

No they use something else for that, ie limit what new accounts can do.

The credit score is just doing things the dev doesn't like/shouldn't be done

https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

You should read the examples give by db0. They are using the term Zionist for anyone with nuanced takes. The accusations are almost slanderous and feddit was not asked for their side before starting the vote.

That's the way they roll. They do be a bunch of weird cunts but it's their right.

You're on a .ml account so I'm by default assuming you're untrustworthy. If you cant see why anyone might get that then you might be blind. I'm sure I could go dig up some examples but then you'd have won by wasting my time proving something that is already obvious.

Of course you may speak somewhat neutrally on National Socialism and even compare current politics to them. But you must be able to prove your point or show your work. Denial and making light based on "this is just my opinion, mate" is unacceptable.

Depending on the crime the burden of proof lies on the accused. This is fine.

"Tankie" is just a pejorative for communist, though. That's like saying you said "commie," not "communist."

That's patently false.

It isn't

Not every land grab is lebensraum. Sure. Wars for territorial expansion are not intended to be legal. But you need more nuance.

It is, though. "Tankie" isn't an ideology, it's a pejorative typically used against Marxists that serves as a strawman of Marxist beliefs.

Nah, I don't think Marx would like tankies

You can even get prosecuted for things you do outside of Germany if police gets their hands on you.

Most of the time this does not happen due to lack of public interest. Nobody wants to lock you up due to some bat shit post you made on the Internet. Unless it had a very wide reach and was particularly deplorable. And linked to your real identity. And there was an arrest warrant. And you entered German jurisdiction or an allies jurisdiction who extradites for that crime.

This only happens in the thoughts of paranoid people though.

Why not? Marx supported the Paris Commune, and was critical of them for not going far enough to solidify the revolution. Marx supported communists and revolutionaries, he was an organizer himself.

Good luck. This person is recalcitrant in her position while never bringing arguments or receipts. You’re likely to get nothing but a broken record.

I assume so, but you never know 🤷

"you are on a ***** account so I will assume shit"

dumbest logic i have read today, instead of bringing up a real example you say this? you are wasting my time writing this reply right now but that's good because i'm on company time

well i guess now i will assume every piefed user is a fed /s

So no negotiations and no two-state solution then? What do you want?

Imagine thinking you need a "nuanced take" on whether genocide is bad.

No, not every land grab is a Lebensraum, but these are by Israel’s many own admissions over several generations.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
• Inside ‘Greater Israel’: myths and truths behind the long-time Zionist fantasy
• Israel continues to push for “Greater Israel” amid massacres in the West Bank and Gaza

Is this stuff censored in Germany?

Edit to add: Jugding by your modlog, I think you’re just a hasbara troll.

Hmm yes, very nice.

Now let's see your take on the Russia Ukraine war.

Very unfortunate for you that your modlog is publicly viewable

Lol, go back to reddit

Yeah mate, all the feddit Zionists in this thread seem real relieved lol

"My favorite part is lying"

"I don't condemn resistance to genocide, I just happen to condemn every single group that engages in resistance to genocide"

Lol, imagine pretending to be anti-genocide while repeating the "human shields" Hasbara.

I apologize, you're not hemming and hawing over genocide. You're supporting it to "look smarter".

Heck if I know, but at least we know of the ones who are (eg.: feddit.org are "good German soldiers").

Do you really not understand that Hamas did not exist before the genocide of Palestinians started? They cannot have provoked this in any way, as you repeatedly have attempted to imply with your arguments that this is different from the Holocaust.

The "Israelis" are colonizers. Not a single acre of the land they live on is rightfully theirs. It's all stolen, except maybe a very, very small minority of Jews who lived there prior to the colonization AND consider themselves "Israelis" now AND still live on their ancestral properties, but even they still benefit from the colonialism.

I'm not misinterpreting what you said. It's just that what you said doesn't actually make sense the way you think it does, because you think (incorrectly) that this is a thousand year old religious conflict. That's orientalist propaganda designed to make you support the existence of "Israel".

In reality, where this is not a thousand year conflict but a hundred year colonization and genocide, the only way what you said makes any sense is if the Jews didn't fight back. Because Hamas is fighting back and you are arguing it's different from the Jewish reaction to the Holocaust. The Jews did fight back. It's not different.

Edit: I just realized this is a 10 hour old comment I replied to in the parallel thread.

Could you elaborate? Does that mean that Israelis shoot rockets at themselves?

Yes, if you read the comment you're replying to...

I do understand what you mean, however the attempted genocide that christians, jews and muslims are doing to each other is much older than any of that.

Incorrect and also hasbara. This is an ahistorical orientalist fabrication that is designed to obscure the very clear and obvious colonial nature of "Israel".

They really managed to do worse than their earlier "This doesn’t mean I oppose resistance to genocide, this means I have expectations towards resistance groups."

The post was open for the entire voting period. The voting period is over.

The favorite word of Germans is apparently "nuance", but I think it's a close competition with "untermensch" and "herrenvolk".

That's just called "being nice", tankie.

Not every land grab is lebensraum.

It's literally settler colonialism, German. The same as your lebensraum.

You’re right, the Jews should have negotiated their way out of Auschwitz-Birkenau. Surely a reasonable deal could have been made with the Nazi génocidaires.

I have not seen evidence that the plurality of that instance is in favor of genocide. Im open to evidence. and ofc maybe I'm just not observant enough. But i have not noticed the majority in favor.

You people are worse than reddit

And most Zionists in the fediverse are liberal Zionists who don’t want to see a genocide

The alternative interpretation of this sentence, that they don't want to see a genocide but they don't mind if it happens where they don't see it, is also true.