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Axolotl
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Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
As the title says, it's mildly infuriating seeing someone say " cook this at 210° " and stuff like that, we are in a international context!! Do i have to put those cookies in the flames of hell or just around the boiling point of water?! Edit: the cookie thing was just an example and i throw a random number lol |
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aceshigh
lemmy.world
aceshigh@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-11 |
Same is true when people tell you their local time and not their time zone. |
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MatSeFi
lemmy.liebeleu.de
MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.deJoined: 2026-02-18 |
In international context the International System of Units must be used. |
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FuglyDuck
lemmy.world
FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-15 |
Considering that most cookie recipes are usually at 170c or 350 f to 204c or 400 f, surely you can figure that out from context? Especially since certain chemical reactions only begin to happen at the low side of that. For example the Maillard reaction enhances the flavor of sugars and such; or double acting baking powder (as well as greatly accelerating the reaction of single acting powder, soda or cream of tartar.) Low temp ovens would just dry out that cookie or biscuit into dog treats. |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
Considering that most cookie recipes are usually at 170c or 350 f to 204c or 400 f, surely you can figure that out from context? Especially since certain chemical reactions only begin to happen at the low side of that. For example the Maillard reaction enhances the flavor of sugars and such; or double acting baking powder (as well as greatly accelerating the reaction of single acting powder, so...
Well that was mostly an example, i never made cookies so i just said a random number
Well, i am not a chemist, i just know a handful of stuff that i can use in everyday life, eg: using hydrogen peroxide to remove blood stained on clothing |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
In international context the International System of Units must be used. So the ° is wrong it's 'K'. You have to put the cookies in a ice/salt mixture or better frozen CO2
That would be ideal but honestly I don't mind too much if someone just uses the °F or °C, i can convert it easly, it's annoying if they don't use any unit at all tho and expect me to just guess |
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betterdeadthanreddit
lemmy.world
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-06 |
That kind of thing brings my blood to 100°. |
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amio
lemmy.world
amio@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
As with everything, we know it's all the Americans' fault. Joking. Halfway, anyway - they are a majority of the people who, internationally speaking, wanted to be all precious about this stuff. Although even if they didn't, it'd still seem like "good practice" to include units anyway, though. The cooking does tend to just be context, though, or at least "same as all the other recipes". There's only so many sane temps to pick for any given thing, and there's a factor of ~2 between the two choices. E.g. if you were baking, 210° is either pretty hot or way too cool for most things. |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
That kind of thing brings my blood to 100°.
I hate this so much, anyway, do you have a fever? |
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Mok98
feddit.it
Mok98@feddit.it Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Also if they write 210° it's an angle not a temperature |
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Codpiece
feddit.uk
Codpiece@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-06-21 |
Don’t even get me started on the yanks thinking cups is an acceptable measurement of both weight and volume. And how big are we talking? Espresso cup or sports direct mug, because there’s a massive difference. |
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Diddlydee
feddit.uk
Diddlydee@feddit.uk Joined: 2024-07-23 |
Don’t even get me started on the yanks thinking cups is an acceptable measurement of both weight and volume. And how big are we talking? Espresso cup or sports direct mug, because there’s a massive difference.
I'm not from the US and don't use it, but a cup there is an actual measurement (for liquid - it's not used to measure weight). 8 fluid ounces or about 240ml. The metric alternative of a US cup is 250ml |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
Don’t even get me started on the yanks thinking cups is an acceptable measurement of both weight and volume. And how big are we talking? Espresso cup or sports direct mug, because there’s a massive difference.
Usually they mean the imperial unit "cup" i fucking hate imperial...also, it's annoying in this case because you have to guess that it's the imperial unit and not a random cup |
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Diddlydee
feddit.uk
Diddlydee@feddit.uk Joined: 2024-07-23 |
Same is true when people tell you their local time and not their time zone.
Why do you need their time zone if you know their local time? You'll either be in the same time zone as them, or in one that you can reference your time to theirs. |
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dhork
lemmy.world
dhork@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
I'm not from the US and don't use it, but a cup there is an actual measurement (for liquid - it's not used to measure weight). 8 fluid ounces or about 240ml. The metric alternative of a US cup is 250ml
We don't measure weights in cups, but we do measure some ingredients (like flour) by volume, so it's not uncommon here to see a recipe that calls for 1 cup of flour instead of 120g However, we do use "ounce" to mean both 1/8 of a cup in volume and 1/16 of a pound in weight.... |
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LifeInMultipleChoice
lemmy.world
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
We don't measure weights in cups, but we do measure some ingredients (like flour) by volume, so it's not uncommon here to see a recipe that calls for 1 cup of flour instead of 120g However, we do use "ounce" to mean both 1/8 of a cup in volume and 1/16 of a pound in weight....
Well that's simply because there's are 2 cups in a pint. So an ounce is 1/16 pint or 1/16 pound. Never heard someone say mind your cups and pints, they'd have to be a hobbit. (Mind your p's & q's) |
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whyNotSquirrel
sh.itjust.works
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-10 |
That kind of thing brings my blood to 100°.
is there steam coming out of your ears? |
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Mantzy81
aussie.zone
Mantzy81@aussie.zone Joined: 2025-03-09 |
Also if they write 210° it's an angle not a temperature
Always cook facing away from the oven |
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whyNotSquirrel
sh.itjust.works
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Also if they write 210° it's an angle not a temperature
yeah and the Angles are a tribe, basically Germans in England |
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TIEPilot
lemmy.world
TIEPilot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-15 |
I work in metric as an American, my industry is probably the only one that works in metric world wide. Temp is mixed |
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TheRealKuni
piefed.social
TheRealKuni@piefed.social Joined: 2025-07-29 |
That kind of thing brings my blood to 100°.
I would expect it to be a bit higher than 100° what with all the non-water stuff in there. |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
I work in metric as an American, my industry is probably the only one that works in metric world wide. Temp is mixed
What industry is that? |
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craftrabbit
lemmy.zip
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-04 |
Also if they write 210° it's an angle not a temperature
Wait is that in degrees or gradians? |
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MatSeFi
lemmy.liebeleu.de
MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.deJoined: 2026-02-18 |
That would be ideal but honestly I don't mind too much if someone just uses the °F or °C, i can convert it easly, it's annoying if they don't use any unit at all tho and expect me to just guess
True, however the "convert it easily" part is getting tricky as soon as you deal with seismic activities or radio nuclides. |
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NeatNit
discuss.tchncs.de
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2024-01-05 |
Usually they mean the imperial unit "cup" i fucking hate imperial...also, it's annoying in this case because you have to guess that it's the imperial unit and not a random cup
To add insult to injury, a US cup is 236.6 millilitres, while a UK (imperial) cup is 170.48 millilitres. Not even close. There's a whole lot of other measurements called "cup" too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit) |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
To add insult to injury, a US cup is 236.6 millilitres, while a UK (imperial) cup is 170.48 millilitres. Not even close. There's a whole lot of other measurements called "cup" too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cup_(unit)
I wanna kms at this point |
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Mac
mander.xyz
Mac@mander.xyz Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Usually they mean the imperial unit "cup" i fucking hate imperial...also, it's annoying in this case because you have to guess that it's the imperial unit and not a random cup
Nobody has ever read cooking instruction and thought "they mean for me to measure this with a mug from my cabinet" lol |
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tyler
programming.dev
tyler@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Wait is that in degrees or gradians?
Did you just watch toolroom takeover too? |
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TIEPilot
lemmy.world
TIEPilot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-15 |
What industry is that?
Aerospace |
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Codpiece
feddit.uk
Codpiece@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-06-21 |
Nobody has ever read cooking instruction and thought "they mean for me to measure this with a mug from my cabinet" lol
No, but they’ve probably thought “what fucking size cup do these twats mean and why can’t they just put an actual measurement”. |
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Codpiece
feddit.uk
Codpiece@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-06-21 |
I wanna kms at this point
What size cup is that? |
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BrilliantantTurd4361
sh.itjust.works
BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-03-10 |
No one is cooking something in an oven at 180f nor 350c |
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Droechai
piefed.blahaj.zone
Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-06-26 |
Why do you need their time zone if you know their local time? You'll either be in the same time zone as them, or in one that you can reference your time to theirs.
My local time is 1705 right now, doesnt help much, its better if I say 1705 CEST...but it helps way more to say that Im 1705 UTC+2 |
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Mac
mander.xyz
Mac@mander.xyz Joined: 2023-06-14 |
No, but they’ve probably thought “what fucking size cup do these twats mean and why can’t they just put an actual measurement”.
I'll take your word for it. All of my measuring tools have cups on one side and mL on the other. Git gud scrub |
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holy_scroller
lemmy.zip
holy_scroller@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-01-29 |
Aerospace
My last project in aerospace with 100's of people was mostly Imperial. There is a lot of mixing of units and you can basically design your subsystem however you want. There was a mandate decades ago to go metric, but that has largely been ignored. It's the worst of both worlds! My current project is just a couple people, so I mandated all metric. I have to spend a lot of money on tooling, but it is largely fine. I would say 10 years ago getting some fancy aerospace grade fasteners was easier in Imperial, less so today. My mind still defaults to Imperial for very small dimensions like a 8 thou gap or something. |
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aceshigh
lemmy.world
aceshigh@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-11 |
Why do you need their time zone if you know their local time? You'll either be in the same time zone as them, or in one that you can reference your time to theirs.
I’m in a global group. Someone reaches out to me and tells me they’re free at 6. Wtf does that mean? 6 what? |
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Diddlydee
feddit.uk
Diddlydee@feddit.uk Joined: 2024-07-23 |
I’m in a global group. Someone reaches out to me and tells me they’re free at 6. Wtf does that mean? 6 what?
6 o'clock, I'd wager. Either yours or theirs, and you presumably know where both of you are. |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
No one is cooking something in an oven at 180f nor 350c
Read the whole post. |
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craftrabbit
lemmy.zip
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-04 |
Did you just watch toolroom takeover too?
Nope, just a setting on my calculator |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
What size cup is that?
30F (USA) i think |
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Axolotl
feddit.it
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.itJoined: 2025-10-10 |
Nobody has ever read cooking instruction and thought "they mean for me to measure this with a mug from my cabinet" lol
Read NeatNit reply |
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tyler
programming.dev
tyler@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Nope, just a setting on my calculator
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Makr Alland
lemmy.world
makr_alland@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
As with everything, we know it's all the Americans' fault. Joking. Halfway, anyway - they are a majority of the people who, internationally speaking, wanted to be all precious about this stuff. Although even if they didn't, it'd still seem like "good practice" to include units anyway, though. The cooking does tend to just be context, though, or at least "same as all the other recipes". There's ...
An unspoken rule of the Internet: If a post doesn't specify country, units, server, or time zone, and that information is relevant, then it was written by someone who is unaware of those things. You know, Americans. |
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ThatGuy46475
lemmy.world
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-01-25 |
No one is cooking something in an oven at 180f nor 350c
Not with that attitude |
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craftrabbit
lemmy.zip
craftrabbit@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-04 |
https://youtu.be/BMCxCuTc1MA
Beautiful, what a useless tool to create. I pity all the geological surveyors who have to actually goon. |
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GreyEyedGhost
piefed.ca
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-11-30 |
As with everything, we know it's all the Americans' fault. Joking. Halfway, anyway - they are a majority of the people who, internationally speaking, wanted to be all precious about this stuff. Although even if they didn't, it'd still seem like "good practice" to include units anyway, though. The cooking does tend to just be context, though, or at least "same as all the other recipes". There's ...
I get what you're saying, but a realistic temperature for cooking only makes sense if you're familiar with cooking. I'm sure there was someone who was wondering why their cookies weren't cooking at 175° F or utterly annihilated them at 350° C. It's just a couple extra characters, anyway. |
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amio
lemmy.world
amio@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
I get what you're saying, but a realistic temperature for cooking only makes sense if you're familiar with cooking. I'm sure there was someone who was wondering why their cookies weren't cooking at 175° F or utterly annihilated them at 350° C. It's just a couple extra characters, anyway.
Sure. As I said, it makes sense to just... not be ambiguous. As for familiarity, I don't think you really need it? You'll have an inkling of where the recipe came from and be 90% sure most of the time. If not, searching for one more recipe means it's suddenly really unlikely to still be unclear. No matter what you want you could search for non-US units to rule out/convert. Familiarity would mean it's even easier, you'll go "of course this is baked at around 175°C like virtually all the other things like it" and almost certainly be right. Although baking is notoriously finicky... |
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FuglyDuck
lemmy.world
FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-15 |
My last project in aerospace with 100's of people was mostly Imperial. There is a lot of mixing of units and you can basically design your subsystem however you want. There was a mandate decades ago to go metric, but that has largely been ignored. It's the worst of both worlds! My current project is just a couple people, so I mandated all metric. I have to spend a lot of money on tooling, but i...
Didn’t that happen because of the Mars Climate Observer crashing? Caused by a us team using pounds-force-seconds where nasa expected newton-seconds (sending it hurtling towards mars at a too-low dip into the atmosphere) |
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FuglyDuck
lemmy.world
FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-15 |
I would expect it to be a bit higher than 100° what with all the non-water stuff in there.
Not to mention altitude and pressure. |
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BrilliantantTurd4361
sh.itjust.works
BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-03-10 |
Not with that attitude
Lol. |
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GreyEyedGhost
piefed.ca
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-11-30 |
I'll take your word for it. All of my measuring tools have cups on one side and mL on the other. Git gud scrub
Often, people look to the internet to learn things. Given that circu.stance, they may not have that foundational knowledge. So how are those scrubs supposed to git gud? |
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