https://wetdry.world/@esm/117147991636945680

oh my god AGAIN?!

They gotta be trolling the entire linux userbase at this point.

I’m shocked it even has any users tbh.

lmao, what're they up to now, 8 times?

Seems fine for me now. In fact it looks like they switched to Let's Encrypt for certification so maybe they learned something from last time.

I like a distro with problems that I can relate to.

Replaced ff with floorp several months ago, pretty happy with it so far

Just set your device clock to a day before 8/23, problem solved.

The date shown in the error message is yesterday.

The certificate for manjaro.org was renewed only a few hours ago. Given Manjaros track record, they probably let the cert expire (again) and fixed it since the original screenshot was taken.

Perhaps the looming prospect of having to do it every 47 days was enough.

The funniest thing about this is that it needs a single Bash script and a cronjob to solve (unless they got a REALLY bad hoster).

That bash script probably exists a bazillion times already… so even an LLM could spit it out for them.

Their organisational structure must be abhorrent for nobody to feel even remotely responsible for this.

Are you sure? The screenshot shows a certificate expiring yesterday at 8:50 CDT, which is 23 Aug 13:50 GMT, and their current certificate has a validity "Not Before Mon, 24 Aug 2026 01:18:47 GMT", so there's a gap of around 11 hours.

I was wrong, and I deleted my posts, because they were misleading.

Like, when you... "get" the certificate... Doesn't it say... "on it" exactly which date it expires? So maybe set a thing in your calendar or an alarm on your phone or some shit? How hard can this be?

LetsEncrypt also gives you a month to update certificate, you don't even have to do it yourself, just run a script once a week in cron. That's such a level of incompetence I wonder why anyone will trust them with a distro when they can't even do such a simple task.

Well, Manjaro popped up when a lot of people cannot install Arch on their own. Same thing with Ubuntu and Debian. Once a userbase formed, people follow suit I guess.

1/1/1970

I mean they have their own repos and take a position of "hardened updates" that are two weeks older than the bleeding edge ones of Arch. I used it briefly out of curiosity a couple years ago. It seemed generally fine, although I seem to remember having issues with some AUR stuff. That's kinda to be expected and could even just be general fuckery on the part of the package maintainers, not manjaro. It could also be on manjaro's fault lol.

I've just stuck to Arch since then. Garuda and endeavour OS are both cool but I don't feel like I'm gaining much by using either. And Garuda includes a bunch of packages that I don't even want.

I'm more interested in what manjaro can do in the mobile phone sphere. If they can build something viable yet fun to tinker with in the next few years that has a rolling release schedule, it could make for a cool Linux phone. Ubuntu touch is probably the more stable choice tbh, but that's the beauty of Linux.

I thought the devs were supposed to be taking back the project. I'm guessing that didn't happen.

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE IT AGAIN

It was a whole forum thing and deadline before they would fork it - have not kept up with any updates personally

yes, but the people who want to implement that are held back and sabotaged by the guy who owns the shit. this is not about incompetence.

Honestly, I installed it on my 2nd laptop and workstation because I really wanted the AUR, but got tired of Arch unstable update process 15 years ago and left Linux for personal use for MacOS. It still has everything I want on my main laptop, home brew and a terminal with tmux.

It just works and I just couldn't be arsed reinstalling, but yeah, if I would, I would just use Arch again now.

We're gonna sse the year of the linux desktop long before we see the year of default ACME lmao

Dunno... Lack of collaboration skills in a Linux distro seems a lot like incompetence to me...

It was a selling point for Manjaro at some point but people really shouldn't use AUR with it. That's just an invitation to a disaster. I think Manjaro is stable if you don't mix it with AUR. Used it for 6 years and the worst I remember was their Nvidia cataclysm, mostly it was fine.

Not sure if I would want to use cutting edge on mobile though. I tried PostmarketOS and Ubuntu Touch a couple years ago and Ubuntu Touch was actually daily drivable-ish. Really loved SXMO too, it's a way different mobile experience.

Most web server have ACME support built-in nowadays, setup is a matter of minutes, no scripting required. This has been a solved problem for years, any sysadmin who can't handle this basic task has no business running public-facing servers.

They managed this again by not actually managing it... again.

They still in this gripe? Didn't see how their uprising ended, any updates?

Wait, again?

Not to wreck your joke, but certificates have a starting date on them too, so the epoch also won't work.

A little stability and consistency in the world, manjaro always delivers when it comes to this.

Bad memory/routines? We have to be related. Since that feels like me.

Manjaro once again demonstrating they're not a serious distro/project, hahaha

(that was the intended joke; they did say 'pick any date' :p)

I feel like the end result is the same and the distinction is irrelevant.

At this point, I’m totally convinced this is all deliberate. Why? I have no fucking clue.

Do they not have autorenew

This is a PR stunt? There no such thing as bad publicity?

I use EndeavourOS (from Manjaro a lifetime ago) no complaints.

some iconic duos in the Linux community: Arch and AUR malware, Ubuntu and bad updates, NixOS and community/team members leaving, Manjaro and failing to renew its cert.

AI slop coming for ya, amirite folks?

At this point, it's a tradition!

just install certbot + a daily cron

The screenshot seems to be taken at 1:50 utc, and the new certificate was valid from 00:18 utc. It is possible though that they just.enrolled the cert too late.

Yeah, caddy automatically renews certs by default, as does traefik as far as i can tell, and certbot installs a timer for this.

Well, it's always been Manjaro either way.