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not_IO lemmy.blahaj.zone not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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https://wetdry.world/@esm/117147991636945680

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lime! feddit.nu lime@feddit.nu
Joined: 2024-08-21
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oh my god AGAIN?!

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9tr6gyp3 lemmy.world 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#3 · Quote Reply

oh my god AGAIN?!

They gotta be trolling the entire linux userbase at this point.

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zewm lemmy.world zewm@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#4 · Quote Reply

I’m shocked it even has any users tbh.

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kuhli lemmy.dbzer0.com kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-05
#5 · Quote Reply

lmao, what're they up to now, 8 times?

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VonReposti feddit.dk VonReposti@feddit.dk
Joined: 2023-06-12
#6 · Quote Reply

Seems fine for me now. In fact it looks like they switched to Let's Encrypt for certification so maybe they learned something from last time.

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mrmaplebar fedia.io mrmaplebar@fedia.io
Joined: 2025-09-27
#7 · Quote Reply

I like a distro with problems that I can relate to.

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X piefed.world X@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-10-20
#8 · Quote Reply

Replaced ff with floorp several months ago, pretty happy with it so far

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antonim lemmy.world antonim@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#9 · Quote Reply

Just set your device clock to a day before 8/23, problem solved.

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#10 · Quote Reply

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

oh my god AGAIN?!
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MyNameIsRichard lemmy.ml MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#12 · Quote Reply

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The date shown in the error message is yesterday.

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the_strange feddit.org the_strange@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-22
#13 · Quote Reply

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The certificate for manjaro.org was renewed only a few hours ago. Given Manjaros track record, they probably let the cert expire (again) and fixed it since the original screenshot was taken.

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purplemonkeymad programming.dev purplemonkeymad@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-08
#14 · Quote Reply

Seems fine for me now. In fact it looks like they switched to Let's Encrypt for certification so maybe they learned something from last time.

Perhaps the looming prospect of having to do it every 47 days was enough.

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Natanox discuss.tchncs.de Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-10-07
#15 · Quote Reply

The funniest thing about this is that it needs a single Bash script and a cronjob to solve (unless they got a REALLY bad hoster).

That bash script probably exists a bazillion times already… so even an LLM could spit it out for them.

Their organisational structure must be abhorrent for nobody to feel even remotely responsible for this.

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crater2150 feddit.org crater2150@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-29
#16 · Quote Reply

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Are you sure? The screenshot shows a certificate expiring yesterday at 8:50 CDT, which is 23 Aug 13:50 GMT, and their current certificate has a validity "Not Before Mon, 24 Aug 2026 01:18:47 GMT", so there's a gap of around 11 hours.

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#17 · Quote Reply

Are you sure? The screenshot shows a certificate expiring yesterday at 8:50 CDT, which is 23 Aug 13:50 GMT, and their current certificate has a validity "Not Before Mon, 24 Aug 2026 01:18:47 GMT", so there's a gap of around 11 hours.

I was wrong, and I deleted my posts, because they were misleading.

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
#18 · Quote Reply

Like, when you... "get" the certificate... Doesn't it say... "on it" exactly which date it expires? So maybe set a thing in your calendar or an alarm on your phone or some shit? How hard can this be?

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pressanykeynow lemmy.world pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-21
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Like, when you... "get" the certificate... Doesn't it say... "on it" exactly which date it expires? So maybe set a thing in your calendar or an alarm on your phone or some shit? How hard can this be?

LetsEncrypt also gives you a month to update certificate, you don't even have to do it yourself, just run a script once a week in cron. That's such a level of incompetence I wonder why anyone will trust them with a distro when they can't even do such a simple task.

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muhyb programming.dev muhyb@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-05
#20 · Quote Reply

I’m shocked it even has any users tbh.

Well, Manjaro popped up when a lot of people cannot install Arch on their own. Same thing with Ubuntu and Debian. Once a userbase formed, people follow suit I guess.

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
#21 · Quote Reply

Just set your device clock to a day before 8/23, problem solved.

1/1/1970

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octobob lemmy.ml octobob@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-01
#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, Manjaro popped up when a lot of people cannot install Arch on their own. Same thing with Ubuntu and Debian. Once a userbase formed, people follow suit I guess.

I mean they have their own repos and take a position of "hardened updates" that are two weeks older than the bleeding edge ones of Arch. I used it briefly out of curiosity a couple years ago. It seemed generally fine, although I seem to remember having issues with some AUR stuff. That's kinda to be expected and could even just be general fuckery on the part of the package maintainers, not manjaro. It could also be on manjaro's fault lol.

I've just stuck to Arch since then. Garuda and endeavour OS are both cool but I don't feel like I'm gaining much by using either. And Garuda includes a bunch of packages that I don't even want.

I'm more interested in what manjaro can do in the mobile phone sphere. If they can build something viable yet fun to tinker with in the next few years that has a rolling release schedule, it could make for a cool Linux phone. Ubuntu touch is probably the more stable choice tbh, but that's the beauty of Linux.

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daggermoon piefed.world daggermoon@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-03-01
#23 · Quote Reply

I thought the devs were supposed to be taking back the project. I'm guessing that didn't happen.

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Saapas piefed.zip Saapas@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-11-23
#24 · Quote Reply

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE IT AGAIN

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Cassa lemmy.blahaj.zone Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-12
#25 · Quote Reply

I thought the devs were supposed to be taking back the project. I'm guessing that didn't happen.

It was a whole forum thing and deadline before they would fork it - have not kept up with any updates personally

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TerHu lemmy.dbzer0.com TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-11
#26 · Quote Reply

LetsEncrypt also gives you a month to update certificate, you don't even have to do it yourself, just run a script once a week in cron. That's such a level of incompetence I wonder why anyone will trust them with a distro when they can't even do such a simple task.

yes, but the people who want to implement that are held back and sabotaged by the guy who owns the shit. this is not about incompetence.

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Frank Exchange of Views sh.itjust.works frank_exchange_of_views@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-03-19
#27 · Quote Reply

I’m shocked it even has any users tbh.

Honestly, I installed it on my 2nd laptop and workstation because I really wanted the AUR, but got tired of Arch unstable update process 15 years ago and left Linux for personal use for MacOS. It still has everything I want on my main laptop, home brew and a terminal with tmux.

It just works and I just couldn't be arsed reinstalling, but yeah, if I would, I would just use Arch again now.

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mlg lemmy.world mlg@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#28 · Quote Reply

We're gonna sse the year of the linux desktop long before we see the year of default ACME lmao

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FrederikNJS piefed.zip FrederikNJS@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-01-17
#29 · Quote Reply

yes, but the people who want to implement that are held back and sabotaged by the guy who owns the shit. this is not about incompetence.

Dunno... Lack of collaboration skills in a Linux distro seems a lot like incompetence to me...

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muhyb programming.dev muhyb@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-05
#30 · Quote Reply

I mean they have their own repos and take a position of "hardened updates" that are two weeks older than the bleeding edge ones of Arch. I used it briefly out of curiosity a couple years ago. It seemed generally fine, although I seem to remember having issues with some AUR stuff. That's kinda to be expected and could even just be general fuckery on the part of the package maintainers, not manja...

It was a selling point for Manjaro at some point but people really shouldn't use AUR with it. That's just an invitation to a disaster. I think Manjaro is stable if you don't mix it with AUR. Used it for 6 years and the worst I remember was their Nvidia cataclysm, mostly it was fine.

Not sure if I would want to use cutting edge on mobile though. I tried PostmarketOS and Ubuntu Touch a couple years ago and Ubuntu Touch was actually daily drivable-ish. Really loved SXMO too, it's a way different mobile experience.

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loutr sh.itjust.works loutr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-11
#31 · Quote Reply

The funniest thing about this is that it needs a single Bash script and a cronjob to solve (unless they got a REALLY bad hoster). That bash script probably exists a bazillion times already… so even an LLM could spit it out for them. Their organisational structure must be abhorrent for nobody to feel even remotely responsible for this.

Most web server have ACME support built-in nowadays, setup is a matter of minutes, no scripting required. This has been a solved problem for years, any sysadmin who can't handle this basic task has no business running public-facing servers.

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macniel feddit.org DmMacniel@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-22
#32 · Quote Reply

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE IT AGAIN

They managed this again by not actually managing it... again.

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Allero lemmy.today Allero@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-20
#33 · Quote Reply

yes, but the people who want to implement that are held back and sabotaged by the guy who owns the shit. this is not about incompetence.

They still in this gripe? Didn't see how their uprising ended, any updates?

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banazir lemmy.ml banazir@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-11
#34 · Quote Reply

Wait, again?

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SteveTech aussie.zone SteveTech@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-09-30
#35 · Quote Reply

1/1/1970

Not to wreck your joke, but certificates have a starting date on them too, so the epoch also won't work.

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esc piefed.social esc@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-24
#36 · Quote Reply

A little stability and consistency in the world, manjaro always delivers when it comes to this.

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world_cavve lemmy.world world_cavve@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-19
#37 · Quote Reply

I like a distro with problems that I can relate to.

Bad memory/routines? We have to be related. Since that feels like me.

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mamg22 sh.itjust.works mamg22@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-22
#38 · Quote Reply

Manjaro once again demonstrating they're not a serious distro/project, hahaha

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
#39 · Quote Reply

Not to wreck your joke, but certificates have a starting date on them too, so the epoch also won't work.

(that was the intended joke; they did say 'pick any date' :p)

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
#40 · Quote Reply

yes, but the people who want to implement that are held back and sabotaged by the guy who owns the shit. this is not about incompetence.

I feel like the end result is the same and the distinction is irrelevant.

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DonutsRMeh lemmy.world DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-13
#41 · Quote Reply

At this point, I’m totally convinced this is all deliberate. Why? I have no fucking clue.

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irelephant lemmy.world irelephant@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-12-13
#42 · Quote Reply

Do they not have autorenew

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varnia lemmy.blahaj.zone varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-04
#43 · Quote Reply

This is a PR stunt? There no such thing as bad publicity?

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radiouser crazypeople.online radiouser@crazypeople.online
Joined: 2025-04-23
#44 · Quote Reply

Honestly, I installed it on my 2nd laptop and workstation because I really wanted the AUR, but got tired of Arch unstable update process 15 years ago and left Linux for personal use for MacOS. It still has everything I want on my main laptop, home brew and a terminal with tmux. It just works and I just couldn't be arsed reinstalling, but yeah, if I would, I would just use Arch again now.

I use EndeavourOS (from Manjaro a lifetime ago) no complaints.

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rozodru piefed.world rozodru@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-02-06
#45 · Quote Reply

some iconic duos in the Linux community: Arch and AUR malware, Ubuntu and bad updates, NixOS and community/team members leaving, Manjaro and failing to renew its cert.

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makeshift0546 lemmy.today makeshift0546@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-05-11
#46 · Quote Reply

AI slop coming for ya, amirite folks?

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MyNameIsRichard lemmy.ml MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#47 · Quote Reply

Manjaro once again demonstrating they're not a serious distro/project, hahaha

At this point, it's a tradition!

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katy ✨ piefed.blahaj.zone cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-06
#48 · Quote Reply

just install certbot + a daily cron

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Ghoelian piefed.social Ghoelian@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-19
#49 · Quote Reply

The certificate for manjaro.org was renewed only a few hours ago. Given Manjaros track record, they probably let the cert expire (again) and fixed it since the original screenshot was taken.

The screenshot seems to be taken at 1:50 utc, and the new certificate was valid from 00:18 utc. It is possible though that they just.enrolled the cert too late.

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Ghoelian piefed.social Ghoelian@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-19
#50 · Quote Reply

Most web server have ACME support built-in nowadays, setup is a matter of minutes, no scripting required. This has been a solved problem for years, any sysadmin who can't handle this basic task has no business running public-facing servers.

Yeah, caddy automatically renews certs by default, as does traefik as far as i can tell, and certbot installs a timer for this.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

I thought the devs were supposed to be taking back the project. I'm guessing that didn't happen.

Well, it's always been Manjaro either way.

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