Good point!

I want to get a pixel 10 so I can have grapheneOS on it. Fuck it! I am always in a race against time.

Well, Europe will fix this for sure.

Palm pixi was my favorite phone ever and I used it up until like 2019.

10 does not have a sim card tray, the 9's do.
First post with grapheneos on a new to me 9 I was able to get!

Grapheneos has a wonderful how to install procedure. I did it with a Linux Debian machine. It took several tries to get the bootloader right, part of that was I didn't know what I was looking for. Once your phone has the red triangle in the bootloader of the phone, the installer should recognize it, and the installer was awesome from there.

Isn't carrier locked phones exclusive to America?
As far as I know, no other country lock their phones to a specific carrier.

Corporations are getting WAY too much fucking power over our personal lives, it's at critical mass where their power is superseding that of our basic democratic rights.

We all knew it would happen, and here we are. We need to fight the fuck back with everything we've got, and coordination and planning is the first step.

There has to be something already happening, where do we sign up, who do we get in contact with? Where's the team?

Does anyone know or have any leads on that? I have the possibility to devote my life full time to it and I'm feeling like me and many others are not being utilized the way we could and are capable of.

I haven't even used a custom keyboard or launcher since Pixels became a thing.

Is grapheneos available on anything but Google pixel phones?

Haven't tried with a custom for a while but I've heard good things about lineage

Some apps require google play, like android auto and maps.
I'm using grapheneos with open street maps, so I don't think there would be any problem with that.
There is a work around to load some apps that require google play with out a google account. I'm guessing that is what would be affected.

Yes it does.

Fairphone, here I come.

I have found it good

I think it’s hilarious that the site recommends filing antitrust actions with the US Dept of Justice.

That office is currently amongst the most corrupt, compromised and against doing anything good in the US Govt.

Yeah, I'm not buying any more Pixels. I got the Fairphone 6! It's good! I'm in the US, so I got it from Clove. Works fine on T-Mobile.

Although, I'm currently running Android... Probably have to install e/OS or something.

I hope Fairphone can continue to grow to eventually meet Graphene's hardware requirements.

still hard to commit to it when it's the only phone I have to use. maybe I can grab a cheap older pixel to test drive it on or something, I think pixel is up to 10? now but 7pro should hopefully last me 3-4 more years if I treat it right, as long as I don't fuck it up

The comments keep mentioning Linux phones, have they managed to get Linux running on mobile hardware that I won't have to go on an archaeological dig for?

Sadly, no. Your best bet is Lineage without gapps. Aurora and F-Droid covers pretty much everything I use, so that's likely my move in the near future.

The new Jolla phone can't come soon enough. I truly believe the future of tech independence lies with linux, for us, europeans. Anyone welcome ofc.

I do hope it'll be a good enough device, even if there will be no NFC phone payments possible.

But then you are trusting that 3rd party vendor. Who approved them.... MS probably.

You've got Framework laptops, who make repairable modular laptops. Seems great in theory but i haven't got one to test.

Tickle those guys to get into phones too.

Anyways there are very few companies now who actually respect right to privacy, repair, etc. Treat their employees like humans and don't shit on environment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones#Devices_with_formal_support

I probably just need to buy a fair phone at this point.

how does that help you

/e/os

Native support for e/OS/

Had not such a good experience with mine tho. Everything worked but I had a fried camera :(

(Fried as in couldnt See shit not as in actually broken)

Im not convinced that this will make a difference. Just "calling your representatives" response is so low energy.

You live under a rock my friend.

Look at history. Look at the anology of how a frog will not jump out of boiling water if the temperature is slowly increased.

They are slowly increasing the temperature, and chat control is a big step for them. If you cannot see that then there is no hope for you

It depends what country you're in. The US doesn't and Canada does (not sure about elsewhere).

Repeating some scary conspiracy theories you read about online doesn't make you informed. It makes you naive.

Out of the loop here. How can google lockdown an open-source operating system? I know they are involved in developing it because it benefits them, but does that mean they own it?

I heard that they're working on that, but currently only Pixel.

Also waiting for this! Would love to get TOH, but doesn't look too promising currently.

This is why we should use things like GPL.

Graphen is based on AOSP - Android Open Source Project. As the name implies, that's the part of Android that's Open Source. Google publishes this code, Graphene OS people modify it and release. All bugfixes, security fixes and new features go there. Google first stopped accepting contributions from other devs and now they are limiting how often will they release AOSP and how often will they publish security fixes. This makes development of Graphene OS more difficult and it looks like Google's ultimate goal is to make Android closed source. Graphene OS doesn't have the resources to develop Android by themselves so this would probably kill the project.

They are locking down "certified" phones. You don't have to have a "certified" phone, but if it is not certified, a lot of sensitive apps (Google wallet, third-party banking apps, for example) won't work.

So all the major manufacturers are going to push certified phones, which are going to make it difficult to use non-certified apps.

I mean, there are Purism phones. Super expensive, but they keep selling out so I guess they are reasonable.

Call your representatives

Hire a lobbyist to donate millions of dollars to election campaigns for your representatives

Hence, a new OEM.

Europe is slowly working on that. Ironically, Trump's policies were kind of a blessing to Europe, because it forced politicians to finally start working towards strengthening the independence of the region.

What we need is a good linux phone that is affordable, has hardware that isn’t slow, and isn’t over sold to an annual pre-order.

That's not enough, sadly. That phone must support, at the very least, all the national ID and banking software. And that bit might be tricky.

You could be right.
I looked at several of them on eBay and could only find phones with the e-sim, couldn't find any with sim card tray.

I've found some cheaper pixels on e-bay, bought mine there.

I have been thinking this for some time, why not just have a certified burner phone or tablet and then a free phone as your main?

Realistically most of us have to install shitty insecure apps to survive in this modern world, but that doesn't mean all our personal data and stuff has to be on the same device.

For the cost of one brand new top model phone, you could probably get a low-mid certified device and a decent Fairphone or equivcalent.

The fight was always going against these monopolies.

In the UK with have OpenRightGroup to some extent the Greens. In the US EFF, FSF, SFC. In the EU ESFe, Pirate Party, Greens.

There are many groups fighting the political cause. They have had victories over the years, but winning the odd battle doesn't win a war. They all need support.

Until now, a lot of open source has tried to be nonpolitical, but that may be changing:

https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/SFKNTZ-welcome_to_fosdem_2026/

I only have so many pockets. I prefer to travel light and without a bag if possible

So, does it mean that degooglized android phones will suffer as well?