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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#52 · Quote Reply

Answer the question and stop trying to redirect. Are mud and dirt the same thing?

They are called fascists, Clyde.

And it sure doesn't take much to get you all enthusiastic about it either, did it?

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#53 · Quote Reply

There's no conflation white nationalism is also white supremacy dipshit, how many times you need that clarified?

There’s no conflation white nationalism is also white supremacy

Oh, really? So liberal media going out of it's way to avoid the term white supremacy is purely coincidental, eh?

Just how invested in it are you, Clyde?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#54 · Quote Reply

There’s no conflation white nationalism is also white supremacy Oh, really? So liberal media going out of it's way to avoid the term white supremacy is purely coincidental, eh? Just how invested in it are you, Clyde?

They're not avoiding it you dolt saying it's white nationalism is also saying it's white supremacy but the type favored by Nazis, and why is that? Because Nazis took their bigotry from 1930s usa. You're too stupid to understand they're also calling it white supremacy and too up your own ass about it to listen or fucking read or understand the definition or it's use in the English language.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#55 · (edited) Quote Reply

They are called fascists, Clyde. And it sure doesn't take much to get you all enthusiastic about it either, did it?

Fascists love inaccuracies and twisting the truth so are you saying you're a fascist there Debbie dipshit?

Stop running you loudmouth pussy and answer the question. Are dirt and mud the same thing.

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#56 · Quote Reply

Fascists love inaccuracies and twisting the truth so are you saying you're a fascist there Debbie dipshit? Stop running you loudmouth pussy and answer the question. Are dirt and mud the same thing.

Fascists love inaccuracies

And here you are... getting all upset on behalf of the liberal propaganda machine and it's "inaccuracies."

Are dirt and mud the same thing.

Does whining about dirt and mud make you feel better about running interference for white supremacism, Clyde?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#57 · Quote Reply

They're not avoiding it you dolt saying it's white nationalism is also saying it's white supremacy but the type favored by Nazis, and why is that? Because Nazis took their bigotry from 1930s usa. You're too stupid to understand they're also calling it white supremacy and too up your own ass about it to listen or fucking read or understand the definition or it's use in the English language.

but the type favored by Nazis,

Fascism is not nationalist, Clyde. Never has been.

Why did you think your (so-called) "white nationalist" (ie, bog-standard, working-class white supremacist) cousins get orgasms when Trump wages imperialist wars?

Fascism inherits it's fundamentally imperialist (ie - not nationalist) nature from it's parent ideology - liberalism.

So, do tell - why is the liberal media you have spent so much energy defending so desperate to conflate white supremacism with nationalism?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#58 · Quote Reply

but the type favored by Nazis, Fascism is not nationalist, Clyde. Never has been. Why did you think your (so-called) "white nationalist" (ie, bog-standard, working-class white supremacist) cousins get orgasms when Trump wages imperialist wars? Fascism inherits it's fundamentally imperialist (ie - not nationalist) nature from it's parent ideology - liberalism. So, do tell - why is the liberal me...

You're an idiot. By definition fascism is hyper nationalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#59 · Quote Reply

Fascists love inaccuracies And here you are... getting all upset on behalf of the liberal propaganda machine and it's "inaccuracies." Are dirt and mud the same thing. Does whining about dirt and mud make you feel better about running interference for white supremacism, Clyde?

You're a fascist, it's cool dude you just might want to accept it.

Does avoiding a simple question make you dumb or dishonest? Yes, yes it does indeed.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#60 · Quote Reply

You're an idiot. By definition fascism is hyper nationalism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

Hold on... I'll type this real slow and careful-like so that you can keep up, okay?

Fascism.

Is.

Not.

Nationalist.

Never has been.

Never will be.

Does the truth about fascism frighten you, liberal?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#61 · Quote Reply

You're a fascist, it's cool dude you just might want to accept it. Does avoiding a simple question make you dumb or dishonest? Yes, yes it does indeed.

Why hide your white supremacism, liberal?

Aren't you proud of the very thing that made your precious "western civilisation" western?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#62 · Quote Reply

Why hide your white supremacism, liberal? Aren't you proud of the very thing that made your precious "western civilisation" western?

Still calling me a liberal, you're adorable.

No one said I'm part of Western civilization, you're just a biased moron assuming that to be the case

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#63 · Quote Reply

Hold on... I'll type this real slow and careful-like so that you can keep up, okay? Fascism. Is. Not. Nationalist. Never has been. Never will be. Does the truth about fascism frighten you, liberal?

Fascism as defined by fascism is by definition ultra nationalist.

Sure though offer a definition that doesn't include nationalism, I'll wait.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#64 · Quote Reply

Still calling me a liberal, you're adorable. No one said I'm part of Western civilization, you're just a biased moron assuming that to be the case

Oh, really? A fan of white supremacism that isn't "western?"

That's new.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#65 · Quote Reply

Fascism as defined by fascism is by definition ultra nationalist. Sure though offer a definition that doesn't include nationalism, I'll wait.

Fascism as defined by fascism

You mean... as defined by the same people who claimed to be "socialist" before WW2?

You don't know even what an actual nationalist looks like, Clyde.

This is what a nationalist looks like.

And this.

And this.

This is not a nationalist. That is an imperialist.

Wanna know why you don't even understand what a nationalist is, Clyde? Because you're a liberal - and, like all liberals, your head has been stuck up your own arrse for so long you have forgotten what fresh air even smells like.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#66 · Quote Reply

Fascism as defined by fascism You mean... as defined by the same people who claimed to be "socialist" before WW2? You don't know even what an actual nationalist looks like, Clyde. This is what a nationalist looks like. And this. And this. This is not a nationalist. That is an imperialist. Wanna know why you don't even understand what a nationalist is, Clyde? Because you're a liberal - and, like...

Correct and academics agree, hyper nationalism is inherent in fascism.

Ironically every single one of your examples to a man self defined fascism to include nationalism. While at the same time you made it very clear you can't find a definition that excludes nationalism.

You're cute, you call me liberal cylde and I'll call you incest Isabella. Fair, right?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#67 · (edited) Quote Reply

Oh, really? A fan of white supremacism that isn't "western?" That's new.

I'm not a white supremacist babe, nice try. One would need to be white for that huh?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#68 · Quote Reply

I'm not a white supremacist babe, nice try. One would need to be white for that huh?

One would need to be white for that huh?

Oh no, Clyde... you don't.

Good job demonstrating that you don't understand what white supremacism even is.

The liberal socio-economic order you exist within is fundamentally white supremacist - that means you get to see the world through a fundamentally white supremacist lens. I'll let Desmond Tutu explain it to you:

“We’ve forgotten how damaged we’ve been by oppression and injustice. People think that apartheid was just a political yoke, but it got into the psyches of both the oppressors and the oppressed. We’ve not yet found the remedy where we help people recover their sense of self-worth. When I went to Nigeria for the first time in the 1970s. I got on a plane in Lagos. Both pilots were black, something I’d never come across in South Africa. I grew inches in my excitement! We took off, but then we hit turbulence. The first thought that occurred to me was, “oh dear, there’s no white person in the cockpit! Will these black guys be able to get us through this?” The awfulness of racial oppression is so bad that it can make a child of God doubt that they’re a child of God. And you project your self-hatred on others who look like you. We need to recover our sense of self-worth.”

It gets a lot worse than that... you do remember that the west only "bestowed" whiteness on Jewish people once they started slaughtering brown people in the middle-east, don't you?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#69 · Quote Reply

One would need to be white for that huh? Oh no, Clyde... you don't. Good job demonstrating that you don't understand what white supremacism even is. The liberal socio-economic order you exist within is fundamentally white supremacist - that means you get to see the world through a fundamentally white supremacist lens. I'll let Desmond Tutu explain it to you: “We’ve forgotten how damaged we’ve b...

To be a white nationalist you absolutely do Diane.

So where is that definition again? Yeah non existent, that's right!

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#70 · Quote Reply

Correct and academics agree, hyper nationalism is inherent in fascism. Ironically every single one of your examples to a man self defined fascism to include nationalism. While at the same time you made it very clear you can't find a definition that excludes nationalism. You're cute, you call me liberal cylde and I'll call you incest Isabella. Fair, right?

hyper nationalism is inherent in fascism.

Stop blaming nationalism for what your liberal overlords invented, Clyde.

you can’t find a definition that excludes nationalism

LOOL!

Easy as pie.

Fascism is a working class ideology that fetishises hierarchical violence.

Next you'll be telling me that fascists are actually socialists - won't you?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#71 · Quote Reply

To be a white nationalist you absolutely do Diane. So where is that definition again? Yeah non existent, that's right!

Sooo... you showed up an argument about white supremacism without the foggiest clue what white supremacism even is.

Do they manufacture you liberals in a factory somewhere, Clyde?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#72 · (edited) Quote Reply

hyper nationalism is inherent in fascism. Stop blaming nationalism for what your liberal overlords invented, Clyde. you can’t find a definition that excludes nationalism LOOL! Easy as pie. Fascism is a working class ideology that fetishises hierarchical violence. Next you'll be telling me that fascists are actually socialists - won't you?

It's literally the definition, stop crying about it Diane.

Neat, where's your source, and it can't be your ass. I'm gunna bet it's dr. NotSmart McMadeup phd (pimpin hoes degree).

Prove me wrong babe I'll wait.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sooo... you showed up an argument about white supremacism without the foggiest clue what white supremacism even is. Do they manufacture you liberals in a factory somewhere, Clyde?

I've provided the definition to both, you simply disagree with them which is why we're still trying to establish really is reality to you.

Is mud dirt?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#74 · Quote Reply

I've provided the definition to both, you simply disagree with them which is why we're still trying to establish really is reality to you. Is mud dirt?

I’ve provided the definition

Do tell... does your (so-called) "definitions" address why fascism only emerges in liberal societies?

No?

Then your (so-called) "definitions" aren't worth shit, are they?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#75 · Quote Reply

It's literally the definition, stop crying about it Diane. Neat, where's your source, and it can't be your ass. I'm gunna bet it's dr. NotSmart McMadeup phd (pimpin hoes degree). Prove me wrong babe I'll wait.

Do tell, liberal... why is fascism a working class ideology?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#76 · Quote Reply

Do tell, liberal... why is fascism a working class ideology?

That doesn't negate it being nationalist dipshit.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#77 · Quote Reply

I’ve provided the definition Do tell... does your (so-called) "definitions" address why fascism only emerges in liberal societies? No? Then your (so-called) "definitions" aren't worth shit, are they?

That also doesn't negate it being nationalist, so where's your definition Debbie dipshit?

Similarly stop running answer the question, is mud dirt? Is ice water?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#78 · Quote Reply

That also doesn't negate it being nationalist, so where's your definition Debbie dipshit? Similarly stop running answer the question, is mud dirt? Is ice water?

That also doesn’t negate it being nationalist,

It absolutely does, Clyde. Hierarchical violence is always destructive to the nation - which is why actual nationalists do not fetishise it.

is mud dirt?

Still trying to make your white supremacist beliefs sound better to yourself?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#79 · Quote Reply

That doesn't negate it being nationalist dipshit.

So you don't know? I wonder why a liberal wouldn't want to know that which is really so obvious...

It's real simple - the capitalist class, who hides their private ownership over the means of production behind liberal ideology, has no means of protecting said private ownership without the participation of the working class itself.

Therefore, the capitalist class (essentially liberal elites) funds and maintains an aspect of the working class - a hencherproletariat - that is willing to violently wage class war on the rest of the working class on it's behalf.

The ideology that animates this hencherproletariat and justifies it's violence is what we call fascism.

Fascism is not the result of nationalism, Clyde. It's the result of liberal capitalist class warfare.

Does any of your (so-called) "definitions" address this?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#80 · Quote Reply

So you don't know? I wonder why a liberal wouldn't want to know that which is really so obvious... It's real simple - the capitalist class, who hides their private ownership over the means of production behind liberal ideology, has no means of protecting said private ownership without the participation of the working class itself. Therefore, the capitalist class (essentially liberal elites) fun...

You're adorable.

Where's that definition babe? Is water wet? Is mud dirt?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#81 · Quote Reply

That also doesn’t negate it being nationalist, It absolutely does, Clyde. Hierarchical violence is always destructive to the nation - which is why actual nationalists do not fetishise it. is mud dirt? Still trying to make your white supremacist beliefs sound better to yourself?

It doesn't Debbie, show your work you fucking loser.

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#82 · Quote Reply

You're adorable. Where's that definition babe? Is water wet? Is mud dirt?

Sooo... on top of being a closeted white supremacist, you're also a fan of fascism?

No surprises there, liberal.

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#83 · Quote Reply

It doesn't Debbie, show your work you fucking loser.

Does being a white supremacist make you a "winner," Clyde?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#84 · Quote Reply

Does being a white supremacist make you a "winner," Clyde?

Does not having a source for literally shutting you say make you full of shit? It sure does Debbie, it sure does.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#85 · Quote Reply

Sooo... on top of being a closeted white supremacist, you're also a fan of fascism? No surprises there, liberal.

Uh huh, guy who says stuff, says stuff. I'll inform the press Debbie.

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#86 · Quote Reply

Does not having a source for literally shutting you say make you full of shit? It sure does Debbie, it sure does.

Tell you what, Clyde - I'll give you the opportunity to prove that fascism is (allegedly) based on nationalism and not capitalist class warfare.

Shouldn't be too difficult for you if you're the politics-understander you pretend to be... but you're going to have to do some thinking and not lazily ride on Wikipedia's coattails.

Go.

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#87 · Quote Reply

Uh huh, guy who says stuff, says stuff. I'll inform the press Debbie.

Go. Proof that fascism is (allegedly) based on nationalism and not capitalist class warfare.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#88 · Quote Reply

Tell you what, Clyde - I'll give you the opportunity to prove that fascism is (allegedly) based on nationalism and not capitalist class warfare. Shouldn't be too difficult for you if you're the politics-understander you pretend to be... but you're going to have to do some thinking and not lazily ride on Wikipedia's coattails. Go.

Brother if the dictionary doesn't convince you I'm not sure much else would aside from potentially beating you with it.

Way to run away again though.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#89 · Quote Reply

Go. Proof that fascism is (allegedly) based on nationalism and not capitalist class warfare.

Prove* I can't proof it because it isn't alcohol.

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#90 · Quote Reply

Prove* I can't proof it because it isn't alcohol.

Proof.

Can you manage that, liberal?

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#91 · Quote Reply

Brother if the dictionary doesn't convince you I'm not sure much else would aside from potentially beating you with it. Way to run away again though.

Which part of...

but you’re going to have to do some thinking and not lazily ride on Wikipedia’s coattails.

...are you having trouble comprehending, liberal?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#92 · (edited) Quote Reply

Which part of... but you’re going to have to do some thinking and not lazily ride on Wikipedia’s coattails. ...are you having trouble comprehending, liberal?

Oh yeah, webster is Wikipedia now. You're a idiot and moreover you can't cry about sources when you've provided zero for anything you've said.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#93 · (edited) Quote Reply

Proof. Can you manage that, liberal?

Prove. You proof read, you proof alcohol. You prove a point, you prove you're an idiot.

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#94 · Quote Reply

Prove. You proof read, you proof alcohol. You prove a point, you prove you're an idiot.

You don't know what the word proof means, liberal?

No wonder you need everything spoonfed to you by an authority figure.

Anyway - your proof, Clyde! WHERE IS IT?

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#95 · Quote Reply

Oh yeah, webster is Wikipedia now. You're a idiot and moreover you can't cry about sources when you've provided zero for anything you've said.

Again - which part of...

but you’re going to have to do some thinking and not lazily ride on Wikipedia’s coattails.

...are you having trouble comprehending, liberal?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#96 · Quote Reply

Again - which part of... but you’re going to have to do some thinking and not lazily ride on Wikipedia’s coattails. ...are you having trouble comprehending, liberal?

Uh huh, my source that actually exists isn't good enough. Gotcha.

Where's your source again? Oh yeah you're too lazy or simply unable to provide sources to support your bullshit.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#97 · (edited) Quote Reply

You don't know what the word proof means, liberal? No wonder you need everything spoonfed to you by an authority figure. Anyway - your proof, Clyde! WHERE IS IT?

Oh I certainly do dipshit, you meant prove not proof.

Wanna stop running away from the actual argument or are you still too scared to attempt to prove your point.

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#98 · Quote Reply

Oh I certainly do dipshit, you meant prove not proof. Wanna stop running away from the actual argument or are you still too scared to attempt to prove your point.

you meant prove not proof.

Again, liberal - provide proof that fascism is based on nationalism (as your liberal brainrot claims it to be) and not liberal capitalist class-warfare.

You know... proof? As in... proof?

Maybe get a better dictionary?

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#99 · Quote Reply

Uh huh, my source that actually exists isn't good enough. Gotcha. Where's your source again? Oh yeah you're too lazy or simply unable to provide sources to support your bullshit.

Uh huh, my source

Not to good in the "thinking for yourself" department, are you?

Anyway... where is your proof that fascism is based on nationalism (as your liberal brainrot claims it to be) and not liberal capitalist class-warfare?

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#100 · Quote Reply

Uh huh, my source Not to good in the "thinking for yourself" department, are you? Anyway... where is your proof that fascism is based on nationalism (as your liberal brainrot claims it to be) and not liberal capitalist class-warfare?

You're adorable, you want me to source my position without "liberal bias" but can't point me to where that might be only that my citable sources aren't good enough for perfect wittle baby.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
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#101 · Quote Reply

you meant prove not proof. Again, liberal - provide proof that fascism is based on nationalism (as your liberal brainrot claims it to be) and not liberal capitalist class-warfare. You know... proof? As in... proof? Maybe get a better dictionary?

Go. Proof that fascism is (allegedly) based on nationalism and not capitalist class warfare.

Dipshit you meant prove.

Go. Proof prove that fascism is (allegedly) based on nationalism and not capitalist class warfare.

to establish the existence, truth, or validity of (as by evidence or logic)

I know, I know Alex Jones Webster's is just woke liberal media. Calm down you can use Dr.Dipshits Dictionary For Trolly Nitwits instead and I'm sure even it will say the same.

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