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X piefed.world X@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-10-20
#52 · Quote Reply

Got my start in the 14.4 days.

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DJKJuicy sh.itjust.works DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#53 · Quote Reply

I feel seent.

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mrgoosmoos lemmy.ca mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-24
#54 · Quote Reply

Hey no fair! I'm 30, I grew up on the Internet and hate what it became

yeah but we didn't build it. we just grew up on it.

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Chloé 🥕 lemmy.blahaj.zone carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-13
#55 · Quote Reply

there’s 2 kinds of people on fedi:

40 year olds who remember the good ol days of the interwebs

16 year old queer shitposters who got tired of getting called every slur imaginable on other networks

both are into linux

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

Depends... if enshittification just means corporate control and advertising, I have high hopes for the design. If enshittification also includes things like personal insults, echo chambers and gatekeeping, those ships have already sailed as expected.

"Enshittification" has a more specific meaning than just "things getting shitty." It's about a product or service being purposefully made worse in order for the company controlling it to extract more profit by means more underhanded and exploitative than just raising the price.

Forum toxicity (sans some algorithm or bot farm egging it on for some nefarious purpose) is categorically a different thing than enshittification.

The Fediverse can't enshittify in its current state because it's not controlled by a corporation. In order for it to happen, it would have to be overwhelmed by federating with Threads or something like that.

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voidsignal lemmy.world voidsignal@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-04
#57 · Quote Reply

That's my people.

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xSikes feddit.online xSikes@feddit.online
Joined: 2026-01-29
#58 · Quote Reply

That’s fair

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👍Maximum Derek👍 discuss.tchncs.de Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-21
#59 · Quote Reply

Accurate.

I winced.

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Beth piefed.social Beth@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-13
#60 · Quote Reply

If by build you mean a Thursday board power user, sure.

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voidsignal lemmy.world voidsignal@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-04
#61 · Quote Reply

Hey no fair! I'm 30, I grew up on the Internet and hate what it became

The Web. Internet is fine.

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Brkdncr lemmy.world Brkdncr@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-21
#62 · Quote Reply

I felt my back in this post.

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Sergio piefed.social Sergio@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-01
#63 · Quote Reply

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!unix_surrealism@lemmy.sdf.org

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TeamSport or CuckPorn lemmy.world TeamSports_or_CuckPorn@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-28
#64 · Quote Reply

Ditto

Team sport 😬

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DickFiasco sh.itjust.works DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-24
#65 · Quote Reply

How dare you accuse me of contributing anything other than shitposts to the world wide web.

Shitposts are the cornerstone of the internet.

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ieightpi lemmy.world ieightpi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#66 · Quote Reply

Wait I'm considered young here even though I'm in my late 30s?

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lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII lemmy.zip lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-01-07
#67 · Quote Reply

I just wanted my Geocities page back.

And IRC.

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partial_accumen lemmy.world partial_accumen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#68 · Quote Reply

I think mine are the best there is. I do have a problem with objective judgment though

I think mine are the best there is.

Likelihood of teenager.

I do have a problem with objective judgment though

Evidence of self-awareness, personal reflection, and confidence enough to admit personal shortcomings: Definitely not a teenager.

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partial_accumen lemmy.world partial_accumen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-15
#69 · Quote Reply

im over 50 and lee is way older than I. Granted www was just being born when I was in college.

No shame in getting your freak on in telnet chat rooms or NNTP newsgroups.

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BuckFutter timeyak.com BuckFutter@timeyak.com
Joined: 2026-08-08
#70 · Quote Reply

Team sport 😬

Uhhh Go Team !!! (insert hey mickey gif) lol

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Dale lemmy.world youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-28
#71 · Quote Reply

Team sport 😬

I’m going with cuck porn on this one

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-13
#72 · Quote Reply

No shame in getting your freak on in telnet chat rooms or NNTP newsgroups.

one reason I liked reddit was it felt a bit more like alt. rec. newsgroups. the federation of course made it way better.

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hamsamrich lemmy.world hamsamrich@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-18
#73 · Quote Reply

Team sport 😬

🥦😎

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BooBees fedinsfw.app BooBees@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-05-26
#74 · Quote Reply

Team sport 😬

But not too big a team, it gets ruined once you get too big

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Cheebus lemmy.world Cheebus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#75 · Quote Reply

there’s 2 kinds of people on fedi: 40 year olds who remember the good ol days of the interwebs 16 year old queer shitposters who got tired of getting called every slur imaginable on other networks both are into linux

you forgot the 3rd kind

Russian bots

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ShellMonkey piefed.socdojo.com ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com
Joined: 2025-09-09
#76 · Quote Reply

Does it count as building the web if I worked manufacturing the AOL disks that plagued everyone's mailbox?

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CheesyFingers piefed.social CheesyFingers@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-12
#77 · Quote Reply

Not 40, but also don't want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization, whether that be by selling my data for profit, training an LLM with my data, or contributing to an inescapable network effect that can be increasingly monetized by various means. The modern social media platform is not designed to foster positive interactions, but rather to maximize shareh...

Dw, the corpos are using bots to scrape and categorize your thoughts and comments anyway.

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holy_scroller lemmy.zip holy_scroller@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-01-29
#78 · Quote Reply

you forgot the 3rd kind Russian bots

Luckily it is typically too small to be much of a bot target. I don't subscribe to world news subs though, dark places.

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RacerX lemmy.zip RacerX@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-05
#79 · Quote Reply

And IRC.

Yeah totally! Getting voiced was like being knighted. Hope my homies on DALnet are doing alright.

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Killer_Tree sh.itjust.works Killer_Tree@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-11
#80 · Quote Reply

And IRC.

And MUDs.

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Feidry sh.itjust.works Feidry@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-08-01
#81 · Quote Reply

Wait I'm considered young here even though I'm in my late 30s?

You are but a whelpling. Welcome.

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im_fine_sandy nord.pub im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-08-05
#82 · Quote Reply

Maybe mastodon but the lemmy / piefed / mbin instances seem to be a much younger user base.

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#83 · Quote Reply

Oof. "Porque" is "because" Por qué" is "why". lol

But… yes. :) ¿Por qué no los dos? :)

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Orbital infosec.pub orbital@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-12
#84 · Quote Reply

Got my start in the 14.4 days.

Same here! The family computer's first modem was 14.4Kbps. The sound of it connecting is burned into my memory.

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Colloidal programming.dev Colloidal@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-02-26
#85 · Quote Reply

If we unite, we can regret it again.

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Orbital infosec.pub orbital@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-12
#86 · Quote Reply

I’m about half that age, and I’ve met at least a couple grads and undergrad students on here that I assumed were also in their 20s…

Welcome! You certainly don't have to match the stereotypes to fit in around here.

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aizakku sh.itjust.works aizakku@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-07-24
#87 · Quote Reply

Oof. "Porque" is "because" Por qué" is "why". lol But… yes. :) ¿Por qué no los dos? :)

No hablas Espangol

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RacerX lemmy.zip RacerX@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-05
#88 · Quote Reply

I just made a neocities page, highly recommend

Had no idea this was a thing. I'll get one up tomorrow!

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treadful lemmy.zip treadful@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-13
#89 · Quote Reply

Does it count as building the web if I worked manufacturing the AOL disks that plagued everyone's mailbox?

Sorry to say, that was more like the initial wave of enshitification.

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solarspark lemmy.ml solarspark@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-01
#90 · Quote Reply

also don’t want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization I mean, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe Lemmy has been scrapped by a thousand crawlers by now. I'm more paranoid about how many accounts are bots than about some data aggregator getting my dumbshit hot takes as training data.

I mean, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe Lemmy has been scrapped by a thousand crawlers by now.

That's why we're here. To fu k with the scrapers and poison the training 🙃

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treadful lemmy.zip treadful@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-13
#91 · Quote Reply

also don’t want my thoughts and comments to be an income stream for a for-profit organization I mean, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe Lemmy has been scrapped by a thousand crawlers by now. I'm more paranoid about how many accounts are bots than about some data aggregator getting my dumbshit hot takes as training data.

Equal access for all is still better than one company controlling access to my content for the purposes of monetization.

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TheStaffmaster lemmy.world TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-02
#92 · Quote Reply

we wrote the rules of the internet, and while some were In-jokes about life on 4Chan, a lot of them are just plain truisms. But the language makes Gen Z have the buttpains, so here we are...

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∟⊔⊤∦∣≶ lemmy.nz luthis@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-06-29
#93 · Quote Reply

If we unite, we can regret it again.

That was my first thought. If we believe in ourselves we can fill Lemmy with ads and make it a subscription service and sell everyone's data to the lowest bidder. We can do it!

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
#94 · Quote Reply

No hablas Espangol

See senyor

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despoticruin anarchist.nexus despoticruin@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2026-07-24
#95 · Quote Reply

Why'd you have to call me out like that?

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Nobody anarchist.nexus Nobody@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-05
#96 · Quote Reply

I don't regret it. I only regret letting the corporations stake their claim without greater pushback.

The slow creep was real. Social media corporations brought the mainstream to the internet in the worst possible way, but the old internet was still alive in forums and chats and discussion groups that had been around for years.

Reddit destroyed it. It gathered everyone into one place. It was constantly growing and pulled users from everywhere else in the internet to one place. Centralization. Then, it inevitably went corpo to the point that the greed of the ones on top destroyed the communities they gathered and exploited to put themselves in their elevated positions of wealth.

To be clear, the people with the money don’t care at all. They cashed out and got theirs. Everything burns around their greed, no different from oil companies.

The internet was supposed to connect everyone, share ideas, connect the world to collective knowledge, and bring us all together. Instead, it became a tool of corporatist and fascist control. Reddit ultimately ended up being the corpo that crushed and scattered the opposition.

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Alexstarfire lemmy.world Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-06
#97 · Quote Reply

Got my start in the 14.4 days.

Wow, I couldn't even hold my head up at 14.4 days.

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BussyGyatt feddit.org BussyGyatt@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-14
#98 · Quote Reply

you forgot the 3rd kind Russian bots

also into linux

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aizakku sh.itjust.works aizakku@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-07-24
#99 · (edited) Quote Reply

The slow creep was real. Social media corporations brought the mainstream to the internet in the worst possible way, but the old internet was still alive in forums and chats and discussion groups that had been around for years. Reddit destroyed it. It gathered everyone into one place. It was constantly growing and pulled users from everywhere else in the internet to one place. Centralization. T...

Social media corporations brought the mainstream to the internet in the worst possible way

Eloquently said.

A decent chunk of local businesses don’t have a web presence besides Meta products. Meta would love to be “the internet”, they had a project in early 2010’s to give free “internet” in developing countries. The catch, the internet received was restricted to Facebook. It was called out by net neutrality advocates as being very anticompetitive and India rejected the project in 2016. Even a decade ago the zucc had been using underhanded tactics to put as many eyes on his propaganda machines.

Why should some jackass amass as much wealth as a nation state by siphoning pennies from every other interaction on the planet?

Link to BBC article about India rejecting free internet below.

India blocks Zuckerberg's free net app
Published

  • 8 February 2016

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35522899

… launched in 2013 as Internet.org and was offered in 36 countries - had brought more than 19 million people online …

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ieightpi lemmy.world ieightpi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#100 · Quote Reply

You are but a whelpling. Welcome.

Thanks glad I'm here

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A_Chilean_Cyborg feddit.cl A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl
Joined: 2023-06-12
#101 · Quote Reply

I'm 22 but i kinda like the vibes of here.

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