Theres a not so secret third option, don't date folks that believe in such nonsense.

it was in fact a pretty witch who convinced me not to do this, and as a result i spent the next 10 years learning how to be normal to people

Oh man story of my life. Woah. It often makes me think of the saying...

“As he received his trophy, the plucky quarterback unfolded the story of how he ‘came back’. He said ‘They say behind every great man there’s a woman. While I’m not a great man, there’s a great woman behind me.’”

From my perspective, the Witch in my story doesn't want to talk to me anymore. None the less words cannot express my gratitude for her setting me on the path I am on now. I still feel like I owe her an apology letter. 🤔

tl:dr Males 13-25 stop "teasing" or "joking" rudely with girls and women. You will most likely regret it. Dearly.

1. Straight

2. Femboys

3. Straight dude who thinks acting gay would get him invited to girl sleepovers.

4. A pansexual who's also Aromatic.

5. The straight guy who's into grannies.

6. The guy who thinks they have a type, but their type would never date them.

8.Aeroace but would set you up with their friend

1. The gay who only wants to top

2. Old grandad gay. Someone who wasn't shy boning dudes back when they would've been executed for it.

12 The kinda gay who would only hangout with people over 40.

1. The bisexual who didn't care exploring further cause they live in conservative environment(relatable)

2. The guy who thinks applying nailpolish makes him gay.

Yeah I agree the manosphere is more analogous to astrology, but I’m also guessing there’s a much higher percentage of manosphere believers that never actually go on dates to even discuss their ideas and culty beliefs, compared to any blockchain based technology, which almost all actively dating douchebags participate in and no doubt talked about on actual dates.

it doesn't.

but woo-woo beliefs are infiltrating every aspect of life, including places where they do not belong, like public health and the justice system. and that's problematic for everyone.

I know there’s science somewhere in there

There is! It looks something like this...

😬

Okay I felt bad for everyone who was too lazy to search so here's how it works.

I suspect a lot of the women you know believe it but don't talk about it unless prompted. Luckily the "oh you're a whatever sign, it would never work" level of belief seems uncommon among even those who do believe.

Explains why I'm horribly unhappy I have Alexithymia.

Don't believe in astrology though.

(Edit: also emotions can't be "valid" or "invalid" they're just the source of your motivations really.)

Nobody said anything about dating

Half of everyone really. The average person is a fucking moron.

To my understanding white isn't really a race.

We kind of just like... pick and choose who ever we want to consider white.

I suspect if I went around saying Russians are white people like Americans like South Africans, and like French people. Many people would give me the: 🤨

Finally. These are some of my favorite kind of white girls.

I prefer dark hair but I am a sucker for pale skin.

Emotions can be based in reality. Or they can be based in false perceptions of reality.

That's what makes them valid or invalid.

Your fear of the boogeyman in the closet is invalid. Your fear of the drunk driver weaving around you on the highway is valid.

Of course, if you don't believe reality exists, or that reality is entirely derivation of your emotions, then yeah, you should be very very afraid and you should invest in anti-boogeyman man traps to put in your closet so he can't get you at night.

But of course, most of us would consider people who believe in boogeymen to be delusional. Delusion is a symptom of psychological problems. And delusional folks think it's everyone else who is insane for not seeing the Boogeyman.

people have lots and lots of emotions that are not based in external reality, many are based in fictions they make up in their heads. but of course, being able to recognize and admit that... is not a capability many folks develop. many folks never question their emotions at all.

I never make fun of it I just roll my eyes and move on.

The reason I have trouble getting laid is my neuroticism and pickiness. When I find someone smart, atheist, similar sense of humor, into video games & tech, politically aligned with me, and there is mutual physical attraction, I end up acting like a crazy person and blow it all up.

If at least 1 of those boxes is not checked (except the mutual physical attraction bit of course) I usually feel pretty meh about the person but I usually keep my cool and can get laid. However, then I usually don't pursue a relationship with them beyond that.

Recently found someone that I am pretty sure checked all those boxes, so had a mental breakdown and scared them off. Kind of want to buy some rope and/or find a nice tall bridge these days.

I didn’t miss that they are proud to not learn about blockchain. They are most certainly not correct.

I'm pretty indifferent to astrology these days, but I have spent enough time studying the basics of how it works that I think anyone criticizing it should also at least have a basic enough understanding of it that they can criticize the thing itself rather than the stereotype of the thing.

If you're going to attack something for being stupid, it's a good idea to not be stupid yourself.

This isn't the 'gotcha' you think it is. I could just as well ask the fedora fanclub how they respond to someone saying 'bless you' when they sneeze. The point is there are local truths and there are global truths, and you don't have undistorted access to the latter. None of us are playing with a full deck.

To use your own example of fiat money, we all know it's a society-wide fiction but it is kept up willingly and enthusiastically for the reason there'd be a very non-fictional economic meltdown if we didn't do that. We are pretending a small-t truth is a capital-T Truth for practical reasons alone. The danger comes when we forget we're doing that and mistake our aggregate belief for reality itself in my opinion.

I cannot stand people who think they are personally exempt from this kind of thing; people who insist their imperfect senses give them full and perfect access to objective truth. These kind of people are dangerous whether they're religious or secular, I would much rather date a superstitious person who was aware most of what they believe is vague and wooly than someone who calls themselves a rationalist and makes these massive sweeping metaphysical judgements about things.

Pretending to believe in astrology to get laid is kind of rapey by today’s standards.

Honestly self-awareness is the first step to change, and what's painful is you will become aware before you become able to act on self-improvement, but that's how it works. I also think those who have trouble with relationships imagine that others are always having a great time but that's certainly not the case. Prove to yourself that you're better than you perceive yourself to be, ignore your self talk when you say it won't happen, and keep pushing. Get help if you're serious about those thoughts, because nobody should have to fight that battle alone

It is easy to claim don’t elect corrupt officials except governments all around the world are corrupt. Government corruption is the common outcome, not a rare occurrence.

If a blockchain gets forked people who held coins before the fork now have coins in both forks. Your story involves a fundamental misunderstanding.

Yeah, no.

what if you believe but you don't believe as much as the other person?

it sounds like you're just really egotistical and you need someone to be a mirror image of yourself before you find them remotely interesting.

also like you hate yourself, so yeah, you'd self sabotage the second you met someone like yourself, and by definition, neither of you can emotionally regulate so it's doomed anyway.

Save yourself time and don't lie about who you are.

This is also job application advice. If you never smile in real life but you pretend to act bubbly for an entire interview: your ass better bubble like a pro if you're hired.

But ymmv

If the guy doesn’t believe as much it’s rape but if the woman doesnt believe as much it’s not.

One of my favorite scenes that I saw David Spade in was in Grandma's Boy. The main group ended up going to a vegan restaurant and when they realize it, they made jokes about it to the waiter (David Spade). Then the waiter goes off on the group.

https://youtu.be/tztMIh-sUqQ

If they don’t eat meat they’re just an asshole.

mostly because the vegans we typically run into are militant vegans. you know, assholes. if you're worrying about what someone else is eating and your primary concern isn't that they get enough to eat, you're doing it wrong.

That was also bizarre.

No! It was one of the most normal experiences of your life!

Well… their photons do reach our planet after sometimes thousands of lightyears’ travel… I will call that impressive.

my wife "believed" in astrology before and while we were first dating. she used it as an easy way to weed out which guys couldn't get over themselves over a trivial difference in perspective and figure out how to compromise.

turns out we would both read the astrology section of the newspaper growing up and giggle about how wrong it was. she just figured out a way to use it to find the right people.

what if the other person doesn't believe the truth about who you are?

personally, I've noticing people accusing me of lying when I'm telling the truth frequently. And when I lie, they think I'm telling the truth and never question it.

Weird how that works.

I bought an astrology tapestry when I was in university. I don't buy into astrology really but the tapestry served its purpose.

And 100% of gamers have pressed the randomize button to at the start of a game to see if it's something they can identify with.

Consulting Tarot has as much to do with thinking it's scientifically real as flipping a coin has to do with making objective decisions.

Astrology and personality tests that get sold to businesses and a ton of other "fake" things all work the same way: they propose things that are frequently or universally true and then invite people to look at in what ways they agree with them or how they fit current situations.

Calling these things fake is the same as saying the personal reflections of people aren't real.

MTBI fans also have a lot of this. The websites play into it by pretending some personality combinations are rare, or that any of it is set and doesn't actually change every time you take one of the damn tests, or that you can't force results. So you have the INTJs who definitely think they're better than and smarter than everyone else, or the ENTJs who are categorized as "visionaries" so they're totally going to become a corporate CEO once they're done working on their dad's construction crew. If there are subforums, you'll get to watch people fight over their self-labeled categories.

Also to further your point, there are notable periods of the eastern zodiac where people either try to get pregnant or avoid getting pregnant just because of the good or bad luck attributed to some years. Japan also has an actual word for blood type discrimination (avoiding or not hiring AB or B blood types) called bura-hara.

nice

I don't want to date dumb people, religious people (but I repeat myself), rightwingers and centrists (but I repeat myself again twice more), we need to have a rapport through humor, and I want to be able to share video games as a hobby with a future partner. I think these are reasonable desires.

Also, at the time most of the zodiac and star chart arrangements were plotted out, the Earth had an entirely different north star than it does now. So your modern star sign would not even be consistent with the ancient charts and star signs, yet somehow all the same definitions and assumptions are supposed to apply.

Imagine you had to date a pool of people who tend to systematically deny the validity of your experiences or perspective. You have a way of referring to your experiences in a way that

• is easy to ridicule
• provides a layer of isolation between what you present as yourself and being personally ridiculed
• is trivial to understand with the slightest bit of reason/empathy

Would you latch on to it as a way of filtering out dates?

Excellent reading comprehension on your part.

It is easy to claim don’t elect corrupt officials except governments all around the world are corrupt. Government corruption is the common outcome, not a rare occurrence.

Now what did I say about that? Oh right:

You may not like that argument and that’s fine because I’m not here to argue that argument. Instead we’re going to discuss what is you argument when the centralized cabal of your blockchain currency steals your balance?

What else did you have?

If a blockchain gets forked people who held coins before the fork now have coins in both forks. Your story involves a fundamental misunderstanding.

Hmm, seems like I also addressed that.

People who opposed Steem got cut from the chain.

I wonder what I meant by that? Could it be that it means the people who opposed Steem had their entire balance wiped from the Steem side of the fork? Well, with your impeccable logic that clearly can't be the case, clearly people doubled their coins and in doing so doubled their money. I wonder why all the scam coins haven't figured out your infinite money glitch, just fork it to double the coins and double the worth?

Or you know, alternatively, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

We've both been wronged.

It's like when you are drunk, but not as much as the other person.

I use Arch btw.

I had several friends at school with the same birthday as me, so obviously we had the same personality and all the same stuff kept happening to us.

I don't have to imagine that. I experience it.

In my case it's not astrology though, it's growing up poor. And the folks I meet who didn't grow up that way systematically deny my experiences and perspective as ignorant and stupid (or mentally ill), because poor people are ignorant and stupid in their eyes and they can't ever be anything other than that.

I think my favorite reaction is when I get lectured about how my parents should have never have had me. That's always a trip. Like I'm suppose to go back in time and stop my parents from fucking, to appease some stranger I just met? Shit's wild.

I mean, 50% is insane. This meme is totally fair.

You're not ok, are you?

everything thinks their dating preferences are reasonable. no matter how absurd or statistically self-defeating they may be.

FWIW I've dated 100s of people, and only like 2 of them liked video games. So for me it's just not worth trying to find that because it's statistically impossible.

Some things you just have to compromise on, I also really like tall women, but statistically dating women over 5'9" eliminates 95% of women, and the average height of whom I have dated is 5'6". The amount of women 5'9" or taller I've dated is also 2, and both of them hated video games. Median height is 5'4".

So I'm not going to find anyone to date if I want a woman who is 5'10" and likes video games. They just don't exist in a statistically relevant amount.

Oh this is definitely the case. When I was younger, I was definitely the kind of guy to publicly ridicule things like astrology, and I learned that would make me no friends. Today I'd much rather surround myself with people who act kind to each other and accept each other. Y'all are totally on that same page.

were you conceived in an orgy

and what if the more drunk person threatens you if you don't rape them? or worse, threatens to tell others you raped them if you don't rape them?

what do you do then? I've been in that situation a couple of times. Not a fun place to be. Sometimes doing the right thing gets you punished.

Them being stupid makes em hotter. They fuck like they got smth to prove