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goferking (he/him)
lemmy.sdf.org
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-08-03 |
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Because that makes it easier for them to accept it's there if they can claim it is something else |
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luciferofastora
feddit.org
luciferofastora@feddit.org Joined: 2025-02-07 |
Dbzer0 civility rules aim to protect marginalized people from harassment. feddit.org's are being deployed to protect Zionism from criticism while tone-policing Palestinians and their allies. These aren't the same thing just because they both use the word 'civility.' feddit isn't exactly enforcing civility neutrally. They're silencing anti-Zionism while treating Zionist positions as the default ...
Aside from the fact that following the law should be an understandable concession to wanting your instance to continue existing: I don't think I've seen any Anti-Palestine sentiment there. I'm also pretty sure most of us are on the same page about Zionism. This dispute is about the way that we express it, which is being framed as defending it and compared to actively perpetrating genocide. There is a significant difference between following laws about hatespeech and following orders to actually murder people. Erasing all nuance doesn't help the actual discourse about what we all agree is systematic genocide against the Palestinian people. |
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mathemachristian [he/him]
lemmy.blahaj.zone
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-06-05 |
The countries you wish death for are roughly 90% proletariat. How can you want death for the one, but not the other?
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RalfWausE
feddit.org
RalfWausE@feddit.org Joined: 2025-12-09 |
Why do you feel offended by the fact that another instance wants to ensure a safe space for its users?
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__反いじめ戦隊
ani.social
AntiBullyRanger@ani.socialJoined: 2025-02-02 |
So links to same page saying it's features made to do social media credit scores and then piefed issues? What are you trying to say with that?
Can I buy a house with these? |
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goferking (he/him)
lemmy.sdf.org
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-08-03 |
Can I buy a house with these?
So are just randomly replying |
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__反いじめ戦隊
ani.social
AntiBullyRanger@ani.socialJoined: 2025-02-02 |
So are just randomly replying
I’m trying to see if I can try a different framing for your backfire effect for you to criticallly read this without your biases. |
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Postimo
lemmy.zip
Postimo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-08-12 |
they issue is that the lemmy.ml is the lemmy devs instance... and the devs are tankies themselves. A lot of people don't use lemmy specifically because of the devs politics. and are on other platforms like piefed. Personally I don't condemn products because of the actions/beliefs of their creators, former or present. I don't practice guilt/shame by association and I think doing so is incredibly...
No one outside the alt right would judge you for dating a jewish person or an israeli person, why did you feel the need to make this strawman? Do you have experience with being judged for dating zionists and feel the need to make their objection less palatable? |
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goferking (he/him)
lemmy.sdf.org
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-08-03 |
I’m trying to see if I can try a different framing for your backfire effect for you to criticallly read this without your biases. Can you rebase your thinking?
Bias on how piefed is set up by their own sign up page? I'm only replying at this point for others as you don't seem to read |
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__反いじめ戦隊
ani.social
AntiBullyRanger@ani.socialJoined: 2025-02-02 |
Bias on how piefed is set up by their own sign up page? I'm only replying at this point for others as you don't seem to read
Who are these “others”? |
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7101334
lemmy.world
7101334@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
No, not every land grab is a Lebensraum, but these are by Israel’s many own admissions over several generations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel Inside ‘Greater Israel’: myths and truths behind the long-time Zionist fantasy Israel continues to push for “Greater Israel” amid massacres in the West Bank and Gaza Is this stuff censored in Germany? Edit to add: Jugding by your mo...
Good eye, blocked them |
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JackbyDev
programming.dev
JackbyDev@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-13 |
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Whether or not you agree with db0's decision, framing it as a mere "petty war" is disingenuous. |
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JackbyDev
programming.dev
JackbyDev@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-13 |
Nobody removed your choice to change servers It's literally part of the point of the fediverse that you can pick hosts who agree with you, who can apply moderation and bans you agree with on your behalf, and if you disagree you move and bring people with you if you can convince them
Further evidenced by the fact they're posting from their non-db0 account after saying they voted on the topic with their db0 account. |
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Mentando
feddit.org
Mentando@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-23 |
What is a good alternative instance for me that is not supporting Zionism, but also not db0 as I feel some of the communities on feddit.org don't really have the Zionism problem? |
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goferking (he/him)
lemmy.sdf.org
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-08-03 |
Who are these “others”?
Anyone who can make it this deep in the thread. Or do you think this is a private conversation on a public forum? |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
Oh! That's a great example! Show me on the map which countries have partitioned and taken over Germany's lands after WW2!
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FranklyIGiveADarn
lemmy.ml
FranklyIGiveADarn@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-10-30 |
Truly a .ml stance haha. Do you think the people in Ukraine consider themselves Russian? Is that why they're fighting tooth and nail to avoid the Russian oppressors?
They're fighting because the US made them. They would be perfectly happy Russians if not for NATO. |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
WTF even is this comment? I said what I said.
You sure did |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
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Why do you write like you learned to talk from watching anime? |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
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Lol. You sound incredibly mad |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
Are you... suggesting that the existence of Germany on our current maps is a hoax and in reality it doesn't exist...? WTF are you trying to show here? Facts are this: 3rd Reich got spanked, its government eliminated, its people remained where they were, and after a short while, governance over the territory was restored to the German people (with the exception of East Germany, but that had nothing to do with 3rd Reich being removed, that was just russia's attempt at colonialism). Now, in terms of Israel, people here seem to be suggesting that we should let Hamas "do its thing", which is: the complete eradication of Israel as a state, a nation, and a culture. Which, by all definitions, is a genocide. I'm saying: let's spank them, eliminate their government, let their people remain where they are, and after a short while, restore the governance of its territory to the Israeli people (with the caveat that West Bank and Gaza return to Palestine). Which is what we did with the 3rd Reich. And for which you people are calling me a proponent of colonialism and genocide. |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
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So how do you justify making .world your primary instance? |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
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You mean like you telling every other user on db0 that they can't defed? |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
Wow, is it really so hard to believe that I'm, you know, saying what I think? .world happened to be my first fediverse account, dbzer0 came later. I've lots at this point, exactly because of instance defederation, but the idea of what db0 was doing seemed particularly interesting, hence my disappointment. In any case I've nothing more to add here. Hope you get a nice weekend, ciao.
Yes, because it openly contradicts your actions |
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Blaze
piefed.zip
Blaze@piefed.zipJoined: 2025-06-13 |
In reply to an earlier post
Counterpoints:
If you want to know a bit more about Rimu, the main Piefed dev, he made an interview a couple of months ago: https://tubefree.org/w/jLPZXv1Jynv7LRcuoteARf He's usually quite nice and helpful. That's not always the case with people who try to spread disinformation about Piefed. |
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Hupf
feddit.org
Hupf@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-24 |
In reply to an earlier post
What a fascist take. Everyone who's not for us is against us. |
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mrdown
lemmy.world
mrdown@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-07-20 |
In reply to an earlier post
False. Resistance group are still resistance group even when they commit crimes. They still have the right to continue to fight Isrsel currenctly commiting genocide. You would reject all the resistance mouvements and their sacrifice in previous occupations with your logic |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
Are you... suggesting that the existence of Germany on our current maps is a hoax and in reality it doesn't exist...? WTF are you trying to show here? Facts are this: 3rd Reich got spanked, its government eliminated, its people remained where they were, and after a short while, governance over the territory was restored to the German people (with the exception of East Germany, but that had noth...
I hope you understand that playing semantic calvinball doesn't actually convince anyone |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
In reply to an earlier post
Imagine trying to argue that Rhodesia still exists and expecting anyone to take you seriously |
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Hupf
feddit.org
Hupf@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-24 |
In reply to an earlier post
The answers to https://mander.xyz/comment/25351806 address this pretty nicely. |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
I hope you understand that playing semantic calvinball doesn't actually convince anyone
Again: WTF are you talking about? I'm literally suggesting that Israel should be dealt with exactly like the 3rd Reich - get rid of the fascist government, restore law and order in the region, protect Palestine. But not by eradicating Israel. One genocide does not justify another! And for that, the extremist fundamentalists around here are calling me a "genocide advocate". |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
Imagine trying to argue that Rhodesia still exists and expecting anyone to take you seriously
Are you saying that Aliens stole it and placed Zimbabwe in its place...? |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
Are you saying that Aliens stole it and placed Zimbabwe in its place...?
I hope you understand that playing semantic calvinball doesn’t actually convince anyone |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
Again: WTF are you talking about? I'm literally suggesting that Israel should be dealt with exactly like the 3rd Reich - get rid of the fascist government, restore law and order in the region, protect Palestine. But not by eradicating Israel. One genocide does not justify another! And for that, the extremist fundamentalists around here are calling me a "genocide advocate".
So you want the right of return to be denied, Palestine to continue to exist as non-contiguous bantustans, and for Israel to simply re-elect a fascist government. |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
So you want the right of return to be denied, Palestine to continue to exist as non-contiguous bantustans, and for Israel to simply re-elect a fascist government.
No. |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
I hope you understand that playing semantic calvinball doesn’t actually convince anyone
I hope you understand that you being completely out of arguments is evident here. |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
I hope you understand that you being completely out of arguments is evident here.
My "argument" is that your obviously just playing semantic games, which you are. |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
No.
Then you contradict yourself |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
Then you contradict yourself
I can see how in your extremist mind it seems like that. |
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Alaknár
sopuli.xyz
Alaknar@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-06-29 |
My "argument" is that your obviously just playing semantic games, which you are.
Well, in that case, all I can recommend is re-reading what I wrote, because you either didn't get it, missed it, or misunderstood it. |
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goferking (he/him)
lemmy.sdf.org
goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-08-03 |
In reply to an earlier post
Hell world wouldn't even punish a mod for rule breaking behavior |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
Well, in that case, all I can recommend is re-reading what I wrote, because you either didn't get it, missed it, or misunderstood it.
Uhuh. I read what you said just fine |
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BrainInABox
lemmy.ml
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-12-11 |
I can see how in your extremist mind it seems like that.
And here come the lazy ad-homs |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
Whether or not you agree with db0's decision, framing it as a mere "petty war" is disingenuous.
it's a "petty war" because nobody that is a part of either side has any real power to change the world, and they are both willing to die on their respective hills just to prove to the other that "you" are wrong. the fight itself is less than noteworthy that in a few weeks nobody will remember or care unless they stood on their hill. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
In reply to an earlier post
slowly? fuck dude, they've been speed running that shit for years. |
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JackbyDev
programming.dev
JackbyDev@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-13 |
it's a "petty war" because nobody that is a part of either side has any real power to change the world, and they are both willing to die on their respective hills just to prove to the other that "you" are wrong. the fight itself is less than noteworthy that in a few weeks nobody will remember or care unless they stood on their hill.
The members of db0 who don't want to see and hear Zionists indeed do have the power to change their instance and did, so I don't get what you mean by saying they don't have the power to change the world so it's petty. |
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Aequitas
feddit.org
Aequitas@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-27 |
In reply to an earlier post
What a dehumanising and despicable statement. The people murdered by Hamas did nothing wrong. Certainly nothing that could justify their deaths. They did not colonise anything either; they were simply born there. This conflict really brings out the worst in some people. On the one hand, they blame the murder of innocent people on colonialism, and on the other, on the alleged human shield tactic. This contextualisation, relativisation and, in some cases, romanticisation of human suffering is absolutely disgusting and must stop. |
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Azzu
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-28 |
In reply to an earlier post
To the first part, this is no reductionism or whatever, I'm just asking a question. To the second part, thank you for explaining your terminology, for me "death to [country]" meant "to the whole country, including the people". I would have used "dismantle the government of [country]" instead, to say what you mean. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
The members of db0 who don't want to see and hear Zionists indeed do have the power to change their instance and did, so I don't get what you mean by saying they don't have the power to change the world so it's petty.
did you feel that? I just changed the world. with my fart. |
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JackbyDev
programming.dev
JackbyDev@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-13 |
did you feel that? I just changed the world. with my fart.
I mean, if you and I were arguing about whether or not you could fart, and you demonstrated you could fart, yeah. |
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