Exactly, most of us don't care but there are jobs where it matters, so go with what's best for them. Construction maybe? Either way, we don't need majority opinion here.

You get used it it. Somehow the majority of the world where DST isn't observed has no problem with an earlier sunrise. Makes it easier to be a "morning" person, if anything.

I want us to go in the direction Canada is going with that. It should be the same time in Washington and Oregon that it is in BC

We can't help being this way

How can anyone not love a long walk as the sun rises? Dawn is excellent and it's only rival for best time is dusk.

Just changing it to noun form, you have a savings account not saving account. Coupons bring you savings on purchases.

We pretty much just use the word saving for computer files, healthcare when saving a life, and fictional heroes. I guess most people don't think of it as an action to save daylight.

Makes it easier to be a "morning" person, if anything.

Morning people already get enough perks. Why do I want to help those judgemental pricks?

Yeah, but it's disingenuous to call the equinox summer. By late August the days are getting noticeably shorter.

Well if it is in the afternoon then you are seeing them walk home from school.

people hate DST?(tbh i live in a country where we dont use DST)

This just reminds me of bad software projects where office politics and middle manager interference meant that rather than fixing the root cause, it was easier just to add tech debt.

That's why we have been continuing to change clocks twice a year, because apparently that's easier than changing the time children go to school.

If you're only argument is "the sun should be directly up at noon" then we are going to need a lot more time zones.

Seems very important to you that the arbitrary number go the other way instead. Same argument applies.

I don't give a fuck which way it goes, just pick one and stick with it.

everyone who hates that should either be given a dispensation to move their work shift and bed time back an hour or be placed on a psychiatric hold.

Isn't the reverse just as true for people who hate being on DST permanently?

Same response. Like what are you thinking? Fuck over 99% of people for 1%? Correction the 1% is still fucked either way. So it's fuck over everyone for no particular reason.

What? It's the other way around you know. Standard time means you rise with the sun, daylight savings means you rise an hour before it.

ITT: People absolutely convinced "their" side of the hour is the Only Correct Choice, and can't understand why people who prefer the "other" side of the hour can't just adjust their schedule to compensate.

We should just turn our clocks back to 2019.

I'm also apart of the annoyance community.

You would

"The Hyperborean Medical Association recommends an end to DST as Vril and testosterone are both depressed if noon isn't at 12:00 on the equinox"

For those who want to, why not? Companies have become way too comfortable, I'm fine with forcing them to allow employees to do as they please.

No u

Goofy

Counterpoint: the people who want it there forever should just be told that's what we're doing, they'll be back to licking windows before they realize the difference.

No, because their opinion, in differing from mine, is objectively incorrect.

Call for you, Based Department on line 1

So it's more important to you that everyone else uses your favorite numbers. Got it.

This reinforces permanent standard time. I'd rather have kids going to school with the sunrise than hanging around waiting for the bus in the darkness an hour before sunrise.

Because if you want to help them, you give them DST, so the sun can rise an hour into their day. DST literally delays the progress of morning and makes more of it, it makes you get up an hour earlier in the morning.

Ok, then we change when school is

It appears to me you don’t got it, but the stakes couldn’t be lower so it is what it is

Canada uses metric time though, I think. So, that wouldn't work.

Who give a shits?

You are passing what's called "an anecdotal argument".

It’s not disingenuous to call summer time summer. Summer this year ends August 31st.

The military uses UTC? Not for regular timekeeping I'm guessing.

Military and IT are overrepresented in EVE.

I'm not only argument.

Ah, I see.

Nah they're only half metricated. They use metric kilometers, but imperial hours, this creates the uniquely Canadian variant of kph

The good old days, when the fire hose would occasionally turn off and we could breathe and participate in folksy traditions like complaining about the clocks.

Good idea, and then let's start cutting cake into twice as many slices so we can eat twice as much. In reality we should stay on Standard time and school should also start an hour later anyway, because that has also been proven to increase schoolkids' quality of life.

They have no vision!

We have the technology now to make DST a sliding scale so that the sun sets at 9PM every day.

Listen not to the nay-sayers! "Waaah, it is not good to eat lunch in the dark before sunrise!" Not with that attitude, mister!

Abolish bosses

Yeah i'm not trusting American anything at this moment.

Ok I just looked and my previous comment was made without realizing which of my comments had been replied to. Dawn walks have no bearing on what time dawn should be.

I've also heard from a very reliable source that when children have their sleep disrupted by an hour they are more likely to turn gay.

God yes. I don't even care which side of DST we land on. As long as we stop changing the damn clock.

WTF?!?