Linux? Yes, that’s better, but then you have less games to choose from (especially with the online multiplayer games).

It's pretty much only those mmo games at this point. Pretty much everything else works, often better than they work on Windows 11

I can’t get over how great ps2 emulation is

PS3 is decent but half the games I wanna play aren’t ready yet, the ones that are done are great though

Also windows 11 isn’t terrible…

Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome. I guess if you don't know any better...

Bought it when it came out 419€. I dont see myself paying twice the price today.

Amazing how 1 company is doing it right and others are fucking braindead to why.

Stay private steam.

I dont really feel anything for newer games. Theres been very few that ive been excited about. Graphics dont woo me in the slightest.

I feel ill booting up any console after the 360. Even the 360 was the start of enshittification.

"Wait, you mean this has no internet, you put the game in and it works? Wait, you own the game? Sony vs Illinois made that illegal years ago! no sign in or email? How do they track your eye movements for serving ads? How do they count your verification cans ?" -2040 kids.

Not to mention they explicitly stated disc sales are dead. All my console games are physical, so I will no longer buy consoles games or consoles. Seems like the way to go.

And yet somehow there are millions of people preordering GTA 6 for 100 bucks lol

Just another flavor of rent never goes down.

The user does not need to type in password on boot, doesn't need to update several parts of the system, no need to install drivers.

That's how it works on a steam machine/deck. You get an update from steam that updates your whole system. That's it.
If you install other stuff from outside steam then things change, but you can't do that in a console anyway.

It's not even mmo games but rather competitive multiplayer games.

So online games with large amounts of players?

So like Massively Multiplayer Online games?

About as comparable as the AYN Thor (Android phone with weird form factor) is to Steam Deck (PC with weird form factor).

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of portability? Or do you carry a television everywhere that you go?

Doesn't mention how Switches and Steam Decks are doing, but I would venture to guess that Valve is eating Sony and Microsoft's lunch.

Laptops are portable. I think the point of the TV was that the formfactor and weight of the system aren't a big issue when docked.

How long until someone digs up a bunch of Halo Infinite discs from a New Mexico desert?

Well, for one thing, compare a Dreamcast controller to an original Xbox controller

Gran Turismo 6 was a fun game though

The Dreamcast also ran a form of Windows CE and had its own version of Xbox Live. Dreamcast was a prelude to what 21st century gaming would be like more or less.

Another industry with its bottom falling out.

I bought a PS5 with a disc drive for 300 earlier this year secondhand so I had a console when I stay at my parents’ house. It was brand new too lol.

How is this when PS5s just sold out for the GTA VI launch? How much did that askew the YoY or YTD?

Linux on PS5 is dead but might comeback with the new exploit but who knows.

Gabecube is projected to sell several hundred thousand copies. PlayStation 5 is close to 100 million units sold.

I will be curious how PS5 does moving forward and how well any PS6 does. Seems like Sony is in the FA stage and might be transitioning to FO.

PS5 pro prices are through the roof so it will likely keep sales muted plus everyone is ready for the new console by now. With prices the way they are the next console generation could be three years away. That is an extremely long cycle and will further hurt their sales.

its not even a choice for me. i have been unemployed for over 2 years now. since just before he got elected.

I thought the Ps2/3 gens were the last truly good years of not overly monetized gaming.

Clearly this is because people are just tired of buying physical goods. They want digital consoles!

Can't play games when hungry.

Yeah! Everything muat be digital and if someone still wants the box it can just have a paper with a code in it.

I mean who would like to play the single player game about 5 years later when the servers are down?

Right?

Woah, this is the first I'm hearing about it running windows CE. Got anything where I can read more?

Interesting indeed. I was not aware of this. I'll probably dig into this subject later today.

"Sold" as in the past tense of "sell".

It's the same theme everywhere. They build for some kind of non existent luxury market while buyers stretch themselves thin. Now no one has any money left and credit cards are maxed.

We're not buying what's being sold. So now what?

It is estimated that Playstation sold 13 million consoles in 2026.

Yeah, indicators are indicating. Things they don’t seem to talk about. Used car lots are empty while new car lots are full. The tourist restaurants no longer have waiting lists. Gaming is a luxury expense, as in we don’t need it to survive, while new game prices are higher than they’ve ever been. I’m willing to bet most if not all luxury spending is down.

Prices are high and companies decided shitty AI is better than good people. So jobs are getting scarcer or paying less.

In the words of my kids: we’re cooked fam.

BTW the Windows CE label was even on the console I think: (ah yes, I remembered it correctly) I was always wondering what this has anything to do with Windows. I think it wasn't a full Windows anyway, and components were modular. Never digged into this myself, which is a shame because I'm interested. Found following interesting link:

In the end, this didn't materialise into a full desktop interface or integration with Microsoft's online services. Instead, it served as an optional layer of abstraction to simplify hardware operations.

In conclusion, 'Windows CE for Dreamcast' was merely a secondary SDK of choice for developers.

- https://blink.copetti.org/writings/consoles/dreamcast/operating-system/

It was an opt in feature, not the main operating system I think. Don't know what the actual OS of the Dreamcast is.

And the obvious links:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreamcast
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_CE

That’s how it works on a steam machine/deck.

I know (own first gen Steam Deck myself), but most people don't have SteamOS. In Windows this is still necessary, because it's not just for gaming and unlike SteamOS it isn't read only mode.

Stadia tried it.

Given that RAM prices are up on everything, probably not.

People aren't avoiding new consoles because they object to Sony's business practices. They're avoiding them because they've been priced outside of the "toy" category.

Fallout 1&2 intensifies.

Warframe is an MMO and plays fine. Final Fantasy 14 is an MMO and plays fine. So does FF11, so do the mihoyo lot, and a good bunch of gachas. And also many other MMO's that I'm leaving behind.

No, it's not MMO's, it's a specific subset of them which is the competititive pvp ones.

That's an user problem. SteamOS is already compatible with many pc's, and there are other linux distros that work similar to steamos when it comes to updating. Users still want windows when for the majority of them, it's a non-issue to switch to linux.

People want windows but then complain that windows is awful. I mean, stop hitting yourself?

Pretty much.

The future will be even worse. Have you seen what people have been doing with AI the last couple of weeks. People have decompiled entire games using AI and made PS5 games run on PC natively. Something that took years by multiple devs takes a few days by a single dev with a Claude account. Sony and MS are definitely shitting their pants right now. Their solution will be cloud streaming only consoles.

The problem is that not all hardware and software functions under Linux.

And in the midst of these increasing hardware costs Sony thinks people would not mind paying the premium for their digital only games, completely killing the second hand and retail markets, bless their heart.

If I bought one it would end up in the pile of gaming devices I don't use. I have an RG35XXSP for GBA, GB,and GC, a Retroid Mini for PSP, Vita, NES, SNES, PSX, DC, and arcade, a Retroid Pocket Nova for PS2, GC, and N64, an AYN Odin 2 portal for Android games, PC games/streaming, a 5800X3D/7900XTX PC for 4K OLED gaming, and a 5700X3D/9070XT for 1440P widescreen gaming. I'm nearing 660 games on my steam/epic/gog libraries and I have 2TB of rom dumps for all of the retro systems. I've spent thousands of dollars to realize I don't like gaming, I liked hanging out with my friends.