Interesting. Never had it ignoreded on my PC, my laptop, or my SO's PC. The more time I spend in lemmy comment threads the more I think I ought to buy a lottery ticket due to the complete lack of issues I have on windows compared to apperantly everybody else...

What? That was the reason? I'm glad I'm off this shitOS. Bruh

Iirc he's in Oregon.

Nice

It's mad how many times I've seen people fail their tests in uni because of windows updates

Stockholm syndrome.

I remember during the last big win11 update i defined active hours which was recommended by Microsoft to do so it only updates outside of work hours.

Only for it to get reset without notification so all workstations started updating in the middle of work when left idle

I'm not sure I'd call permissive licensing "ideological purity" compared to copyleft.

Frankly, I think BSD loses because corporations are legally allowed to take and never give back.

Sure you didn't wait too long before updating so they had to force those updates?

That is some making excuses for your abuser shit, right there!

"He had to hit me, it was my fault for doing something wrong that made him mad!"

Not only this, but Windows as a whole doesn't force you to restart until you hit the 7-day mark after the update was installed(unless you have the idle reboot setting on). So you have a whole seven days after installing your update to restart on your own time. That way it isn't restarting in the middle of your presentation.

Why do you hate property rights?

Windows doesn't take it as a suggestion until the 7 day mark of it waiting for a restart. Or if the update is marked critically late which I believe is 1-3 months after update release(?). if you are either shutting down or rebooting your computer every couple of days, you're not going to run into this issue.

The only time I've ever run into the issue of Windows forcing an update was when I switched to Linux and kept Windows as a secondary OS. Because now instead of running the OS and shutting it down daily, I'm running the OS maybe every seven or eight months, so by the time it installs the updates, it's already hit that threshold of you need to install these updates now.

And how many?

Debian did this to me recently. I was very upset...

Well except it was for my fantasy draft so the stakes were obviously much higher. /s

OUCH

Mad.

i can backup my home computer, reinstall the entire OS, all apps, restore all the data, faster than a single Windows Update takes on my work machine

Too late now but grab a live Linux USB, boot into it to access your presentation and run it in an emergency.

Except for the fact that you can still use your computer while it's updating. And it only takes one reboot (which takes the same amount of time as any other reboot) to apply the updates. And you have to actually tell your computer that you want to reboot. It's really not like windows at all.

Debian forces you to update? 🤔

Did you press update? I bet you pressed update.

the default for some distributions these days is to apply updates on restarts (which produce win-like update progress screens) instead of 'immediately' (and leaving a kernel update hanging and waiting for one). it is also often a user-configurable option for handling updates.

here's fedora, as an example:

and if you tell your linux to install updates 'automatically', they will come in.. ya know, automatically.. like windows. i've yet to see one 'force' a restart, though.. like windows likes to do.

Simple rules of thumb:

Never use windows for presentations.

Never use powerpoint for presentations.

Never use your own profile for presentations.

Always have a synced version to a URL that you can refer the audience to if the projector fails or doesnt like your computer.

But yeah, that sucks.

Or just use linux in the first place....

Yeah but Linux isn't viable for me because [very obscure bug that was fixed in 2014]

it's the sneaky 'update and ...' options that get added to the poweroff submenu that often get in the way to produce unexpected 'updates' during a boot.

you can only defer updates, but you cannot prevent them, and yes windows will just randomly update when it chooses to

People using AI slop coded Linux just love making up nonsense about Windows (to make themselves feel better about using an AI slop OS)

The amount of misinformation in a windows update thread on lemmy would be laughable if it wasn’t a weekly post.

We had a finance troll run into our IT department asking "how do I stop a service pack update!?" This was back in the XP days. She had a presentation in 15 minutes and had not turned the laptop on in over a year.

Our answer?

You don't. You should have started preparing it yesterday.

She was PISSED! But her even more evil boss had ruined all her political capitol over all the other things she failed to prepare for.

This argument fails if you have a presentation on Patch Tuesday, or if the IT department forces critical updates at a certain day/time.

The time it takes for these updates is also not nearly the same. You can easily be waiting 10-15 minutes for a large Windows update.

This is pretty much my only consistent problem with Windows. It refuses to let me choose when to update. Though I generally only notice that it's happened when I try to get to my jellyfin server. Other than that, it's been pretty much issue free. Lemmy leans pretty hard towards the tech sector and there's a hate boner for Windows that is at least somewhat justified but for most users it's not really an issue.

So they passed that, did they?

Oh wow, I wouldn't want anything automatic to be happening to my installation, hell naw. 🚫🙅‍♂️

That and BSD was almost BSD™ by AT&T™.

Lost all its momentum at probably its most valuable growth opportunity to a single dev.

He's also human, for example he hypothetically could use AI to offset a disability like dementia - a totally reasonable emotional response, but also not who I want controlling global cyber security.

Last I heard though all AI commits were a separate branch, I wasn't aware of any sneakiness.

Not even doing an A/B partition kexec update scheme with VM live migration for all critical services??

Oh wait I'm a stereotype

Always have a jump drive or some other backup of your presentation ready to drop on another computer. I have had this exact thing happen during an important presentation.

Smartest windows user be like

If been a few years since I've had more than a 5 minute update

pretty amazing show of ignorance given that we know windows is pretty proudly vibe-coded now.

Because most employees get to choose their operating systems.

This post was probably just bait to get a Linux circle jerk going.

Linux.

Or literally any other OS than Windoze.

I disagree. Updates SHOULD be optional, as long as you own your PC. Now, for a work PC, where your employer actually owns it, it's them who decide what's optional and what's not. In that context, I think it's every IT department's responsibility to ensure security updates are pushed out and applied.

In rooms of 70 students, at least one would lose half their test time to an update. There were 8 of these sessions per day

Do they want work done or not?

I've been trying to get off PP for presentations, but everything else I've used has it's issues

• LaTeX Beamer: My alternative go-to; but it requires Tex to be installed to make changes; so it's locked to your computer. Plus most people don't know how to write LaTeX (let alone program), so just for solo presentations
• LibreOffice Impress: A close alternative, but I find theming breaks a lot between systems (background / font colors primarily IIRC)
• Web-based presentation software: requires you to be online, and you generally can't download the presentations for offline use / archiving

Any recommendations?

Maybe you don’t recall how bad botnets were before updates become harder to avoid.

I’d support optional updates if network access is disabled, maybe by your ISP.