Nice.

Nice.

No, you don't. Shhhh.

I haven't used Windows in years, but it's kind of funny to remember because my Linux machines take at most 5 minutes to update (even with a hundred packages to update), and only require a restart if something important happens, and even in that case I can postpone the reboot.

Good luck anyway!

Noice.

Why would you ... use windows?

Do you have a few minutes to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds?

Part of the time for money exchange program is using the computer that they give you...

Probably OP's work computer. Most people don't get to choose.

IT guy here. When you finally can respond or join the meeting, make sure you cover yourself in feathers from a pillow and blame a duck gang for your misfortune.

If you're forced to use Windows, you can minimise the amount of disruption from updates by remembering:

• they're only released on Tuesdays, so you can make sure you get several days without interruption by installing them on Wednesdays
• there's a pause updates for seven days button in Settings that you can use if there's a Tuesday between now and when you're going to definitely need the computer to be available

It's much easier to plan around them when you know when they're coming.

Buddy of mine lost $1500 in his own hockey pool because of this exact situation....

Just opened the thread to make sure someone was spreading the good word.

I know there are large organisations where the laptops are configured to also update their firmware when users are trying to get out the door at the end of the day and the outsourced ICT teams couldn't care less.

Microsoft continues to be the best advocate for migrating to Linux.

I don't know if OP says this anywhere, but if it's a company laptop then MAYBE updates are whenever IT feels like it... And you cannot pause updates unless IT feels like offering that to you... AND only for particular updates...

I know you're not trying to be mean IT but sometimes you hurt me

Managed corporate computers give IT departments control over when updates are released to users and installed. They're usually later than the MS schedule to give more time for testing. Good departments will follow some sort of regular predictable schedule, but bad ones can just drop updates randomly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDLvUqhwHZc

Would you look at the time! Tux o'clock already!

If I don't find an anti-AI kernel fork I might be moving to NetBSD soon. That sucks, I hate moving to a new OS.

This sounds like bait on lemmy

Recent Windows update caused secure boot issues on my kid’s laptop, wouldt get past BIOS without some fiddling.

Why does Windows suck so badly?

How is this only midly infuriating.

You clicked "shutdown and install updates" instead of "shutdown" didn't you?

So, how did it go?

OP has embraced their inner calm

Nowadays, a lot of Linux distributions like Ubuntu, for example, will do an update and then tell you that you should reboot, even if a reboot isn't strictly necessary. You can still ignore and postpone, but I think most users will see this as very similar to Windows.

The way my org does it, I get a pop up saying my computer will be forcibly restarted when the countdown reaches zero. It’s typically an 8 hour timer. And the dialog can’t be minimized. If you move it, it moves back to the lower right every minute or so.

Yup. Work to get it perfect the day before. Then you make it a point to get a good nights sleep and be really ready. I have been here.

Why would you not defer updates if you need to use your pc?

Putting aside that windows will simply forget updates when it decides to, users should not have to beg their own pc to not do something they didn't choose to do.

You’re wrong twice in one sentence. Windows gives you lots of opportunities to deal with updating on your own schedule. Updates shouldn’t be optional, else we have huge botnets running around.

Windows machines frequently do updates without a reboot nowadays and you can usually postpone an update to a more convenient time.

The problem is that when an update that requires a restart is waiting, it changes the standard restart button into one that does an update and restart. You can often fall into muscle memory and accidentally trigger an update.

When combined with the fact that you quite often get problems that go away with a reboot you can easily get yourself into OP’s position where they’re waiting for an update to finish at a really inconvenient time.

Years back when I used windows the 'shutdown' and 'shutdown and update' acted the fucking same most of the time. Shit was driving me up the fucking wall.

Linus has always prioritized results over ideological purity. Which is why Linux runs the world whereas BSD is still just a niche project.

When you alt+f4 then enter, that is the default option if update is available. Makes sense when OP accidentally pressing it, i know i did it a lot of time. Sometime update upon starting is fast, but i guess OP had one of those update.

Windows 11 26H2 is actually a bit better with this anyway… it hangs on to updates that need reboots (instead of installing them straight away), so you only have to do an update-reboot once a month.

I think you can pause updates for longer as well. It might even be indefinitely but I've never bothered to look into it.

sometimes you don't have an option. it forces you to install updates

I’m not totally convinced that his behavior in the past is a reflection on what is to come. He is at this point still refusing to answer questions about licensing LLM generated code and such and has apparently been obfuscating LLM commits. That doesn’t sound like somebody who is committed to results so much as it sounds like somebody giving into AI brainrot.

Their computer is installing updates, sure they have a few minutes.

Our Linus, who art from Finland, Hallowed be thy kernel.

Personally I disable auto updates and only update when I decide I want to, nothing worse than getting stradled with an update when u need quick access to ur computer!

Lemmy/Reddit, Linux/Windows... Many of us are forced to use Windows on corporate hardware.

Clearly he doesn't care about results because he slop coded with antigravity rather than reading documentation for a python side-project. I imagine his younger self would be cussing his older self out for shipping things he literally doesn't understand.

The reason for his actions are much simpler: he got paid. He gets paid from the linux foundation which receives a lump sum from AI companies. In 2024 Linus said AI was just Hype, but then the foundation received millions in funds from the AI companies.

If he cared about results he would have written the damn things himself.

When it happened to one of my students at least I was able to play it off and make fun of Windows instead of embarrassing them. But I also give full credit on presentations regardless of how bad they go.

That said, woe is you if it's literally anything else, like a conference or a business meeting. Lol

Don't worry, your data is where you left it.

He's been in California for decades.

Sure you didn't wait too long before updating so they had to force those updates?

They force them because too many users skipped them and started to complain when things went wrong because of it.

But he's from Finland.

Windows views that as a suggestion, and frequently ignores it.