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lawks
aussie.zone
lawks@aussie.zone Joined: 2026-08-05 |
not in windows.
Yes, you can. I hate Windows and its eagerness to update whenever, but that behaviour is configurable. In the Windows Update settings, under Advanced options, disable "⏩ Get me up to date" then set your "Active hours" to "Manually" then set an 18 hour block that doesn't conflict with your work day, like 6 am till midnight. At least in theory, you'll only get updates applied when you deliberately reboot or leave your machine on overnight. Edit: if you're really keen, you can use a tool like O&O ShutUp10 (it works on 11, too), or edit the registry to completely disable auto updates. |
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SalmonTractor
discuss.tchncs.de
SalmonTractor@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2026-06-11 |
Yes, you can. I hate Windows and its eagerness to update whenever, but that behaviour is configurable. In the Windows Update settings, under Advanced options, disable "⏩ Get me up to date" then set your "Active hours" to "Manually" then set an 18 hour block that doesn't conflict with your work day, like 6 am till midnight. At least in theory, you'll only get updates applied when you deliberatel...
Not a sure thing, though, and IT policy often disables those options. |
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mfed1122
discuss.tchncs.de
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2025-03-31 |
But he's from Finland.
Linux users in their natural habitat, obscure online forums. Observe how they nitpick minor technicalities between themselves, a hallmark sign of affection among their kind. |
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Lavender Breton
lemmy.zip
LavenderBreton@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-07 |
I’ve found fedoras updates are getting kind of windowsy
I just use Mint and call it a day tbh |
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lawks
aussie.zone
lawks@aussie.zone Joined: 2026-08-05 |
Not a sure thing, though, and IT policy often disables those options.
Your IT dept. has to be pretty shit if they're controlling those policies but not setting basic work hours. Turning off that restart asap crap is the norm, because management/c-suite get pissed off by random restarts and immediately blame IT. |
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agamemnonymous
sh.itjust.works
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-15 |
How is this only midly infuriating.
The niceness cancels it out |
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JargonWagon
lemmy.world
JargonWagon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-25 |
You can install Linux in 5
And then spend an hour trying to get the presentation to run the way you made it. I love Linux, but installing Linux here in this time sensitive situation is definitely not the move for someone who has Windows already installed and their presentation completed and saved, presumably because they don't know enough about Linux to confidently switch over completely. Some will probably be able to get out of that situation unscathed, but not most. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
Yes, you can. I hate Windows and its eagerness to update whenever, but that behaviour is configurable. In the Windows Update settings, under Advanced options, disable "⏩ Get me up to date" then set your "Active hours" to "Manually" then set an 18 hour block that doesn't conflict with your work day, like 6 am till midnight. At least in theory, you'll only get updates applied when you deliberatel...
no. you can't. it's set in policy on enterprise installs and you have to reghack to get it to stop. that's not it working, that's a hack. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
Your IT dept. has to be pretty shit if they're controlling those policies but not setting basic work hours. Turning off that restart asap crap is the norm, because management/c-suite get pissed off by random restarts and immediately blame IT.
wow, spoken like someone who is clueless about how enterprise solutions work. I thought you might just be inexperienced, but now I can see you're just an armchair idiot. |
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Matt The Horwood
lemmy.horwood.cloud
mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloudJoined: 2023-07-27 |
…this has to be a BSD guy talking.
No, where I work we use macs. Everyone has a Mac and our policys prohibit windows as a work os |
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TheHonorableT
lemmy.blahaj.zone
TheHonorableT@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-07-09 |
IDK why anyone has automatic updates enabled, precisely because of this ocurring at frustrating times. Can this not be disabeled anymore or something?
The user-facing options only allow you to delay updates for up to a month. There is no way to permanently disable automatic updates from there. |
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Starya67
lemmy.world
starlinguk@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-17 |
Yes, you can. I hate Windows and its eagerness to update whenever, but that behaviour is configurable. In the Windows Update settings, under Advanced options, disable "⏩ Get me up to date" then set your "Active hours" to "Manually" then set an 18 hour block that doesn't conflict with your work day, like 6 am till midnight. At least in theory, you'll only get updates applied when you deliberatel...
I have a laptop and a PC with the same settings. The laptop forces updates, the PC doesn't and I have no idea why. |
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LifeInMultipleChoice
lemmy.world
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
You have to ignore the updates for a while before it will force reboot during your normal working hours. If it’s left alone overnight yeah it might reboot on you the day the patch came out. But if your active hours are set to something same it’s never rebooted on me.
Yeah enterprise images are set to default as 8am active time. If someone leaves their machine on they'll switch to an inactive state at like 8pm or whatever you configured, and do the updates at like 2am and you should never need to know anything about it if something doesn't break. Not every setup is done well though, ive have several coworkers and I have Mac OS and Windows images want to force a reboot during work hours, 99% of the time it is either the user never allows the machine to be on when it isn't in use, or IT dropped the ball on the image. |
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BorgDrone
feddit.nl
BorgDrone@feddit.nl Joined: 2025-06-10 |
No, where I work we use macs. Everyone has a Mac and our policys prohibit windows as a work os
macOS is practically a BSD though (XNU is a modified Mach microkernel with a BSD layer bolted on top of it) |
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Ahmed?
lemmy.world
poplargrove@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Clearly he doesn't care about results because he slop coded with antigravity rather than reading documentation for a python side-project. I imagine his younger self would be cussing his older self out for shipping things he literally doesn't understand. The reason for his actions are much simpler: he got paid. He gets paid from the linux foundation which receives a lump sum from AI companies. I...
I'm no vibecoder but between 2024 and now, LLMs also got much better. It might not have been the money that changed his mind. |
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lawks
aussie.zone
lawks@aussie.zone Joined: 2026-08-05 |
no. you can't. it's set in policy on enterprise installs and you have to reghack to get it to stop. that's not it working, that's a hack.
What a strange response. You've said that deferring updates can't be done on Windows. It's plain factually incorrect. You're literally quoting that policy can control it but saying it can't be controlled, but you see no contradiction. Real enterprise uses WSUS, which absolutely can defer updates, it's one of the main selling points. Not everyone uses that, and group policy is sufficient for plenty of orgs. The link in my earlier comment clearly explains how policy and registry settings can avoid OP's problem, so "no you can't" alone, is a ridiculous and incorrect response. That there exist cases where enterprise makes it more difficult does not mean that it is not possible. It's arguably easier with enterprise because IT can push those settings out to everyone and make sure no one has those interruptions. |
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lawks
aussie.zone
lawks@aussie.zone Joined: 2026-08-05 |
I have a laptop and a PC with the same settings. The laptop forces updates, the PC doesn't and I have no idea why.
Hence the qualifier:
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GeneralEmergency
lemmy.world
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
pretty amazing show of ignorance given that we know windows is pretty proudly vibe-coded now.
Aw dude https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/ Just remember to say thanks to Meta when you boot from now on. |
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GeneralEmergency
lemmy.world
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Smartest windows user be like
Aw dude https://pivot-to-ai.com/2026/10/14/linux-kernel-goes-full-ai-slop-code-hides-chatbot-commits/ |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
I'm no vibecoder but between 2024 and now, LLMs also got much better. It might not have been the money that changed his mind.
LLMs either hit a wall or got worse, so no. |
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Wispy2891
lemmy.world
Wispy2891@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-13 |
It's your mistake, never schedule a presentation after a patch Tuesday (I'm joking, fuck this shit, Wednesday I had to fight all the computers "OMG a new update it's out, can I reboot now????") |
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Joined: 2023-06-09 |
And then spend an hour trying to get the presentation to run the way you made it. I love Linux, but installing Linux here in this time sensitive situation is definitely not the move for someone who has Windows already installed and their presentation completed and saved, presumably because they don't know enough about Linux to confidently switch over completely. Some will probably be able to ge...
I don't think they were genuinely expecting the person to install Linux instead of waiting for an update to finish |
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muusemuuse
sh.itjust.works
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2025-06-25 |
macOS is practically a BSD though (XNU is a modified Mach microkernel with a BSD layer bolted on top of it)
Modern macOS has diverged significantly from its bsd origins. |
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muusemuuse
sh.itjust.works
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2025-06-25 |
No, where I work we use macs. Everyone has a Mac and our policys prohibit windows as a work os
Interesting. I’ve used Mac for years and for the last 2 or 3, macOS has really gone downhill. What line of work are you in that bans windows? The entire point of windows is enterprise management, which macOS is famously bad at. |
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kuerbiskernoel
feddit.org
kuerbiskernoel@feddit.org Joined: 2024-09-27 |
Didn't he jump on the AI bandwagon?
No, he said AI may be used for assistance in kernel commits, but the same code quality and comprehensibility as before AI is required. He cares about the output, not it you got some code snippet from ai or stackoverflow. |
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weps
lemmy.world
weps@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-22 |
"I'm afraid I can't let you do that" |
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Matt The Horwood
lemmy.horwood.cloud
mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloudJoined: 2023-07-27 |
Interesting. I’ve used Mac for years and for the last 2 or 3, macOS has really gone downhill. What line of work are you in that bans windows? The entire point of windows is enterprise management, which macOS is famously bad at.
We work in health data, but we also done have enterprise management. When a review was done about 6 years ago, windows was a big risk in how we work |
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kestrel7_7
lemmy.world
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-07-31 |
Seriously, this right here is why I stopped using windows for work and switched to linux for professional reasons. Windows is not serious business software because of shit like this. |
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fuck_u_spez_in_particular
lemmy.world
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
IDK why anyone has automatic updates enabled, precisely because of this ocurring at frustrating times. Can this not be disabeled anymore or something?
I only have it in the VM but even there I tried all kinds of things like hacks in the registry and all kinds of services disabled only to discover sometime later that it tried to update. I just set it read only so that it just can't do that now, anymore. It's such a virus... |
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kestrel7_7
lemmy.world
kestrel7_7@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-07-31 |
And then spend an hour trying to get the presentation to run the way you made it. I love Linux, but installing Linux here in this time sensitive situation is definitely not the move for someone who has Windows already installed and their presentation completed and saved, presumably because they don't know enough about Linux to confidently switch over completely. Some will probably be able to ge...
And yet, they would still be more likely to pull off the presentation in Linux if it’s literally not possible in Windows 😉 |
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fuck_u_spez_in_particular
lemmy.world
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
LLMs either hit a wall or got worse, so no.
As much as I'd like that to be true, this is unfortunately not the case... |
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fuck_u_spez_in_particular
lemmy.world
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
You could probably boot a live USB and transfer your presentation to it in that time.
Problem is you need a live USB stick... |
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Simon_Shitewood
lemmy.ml
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-19 |
No, he said AI may be used for assistance in kernel commits, but the same code quality and comprehensibility as before AI is required. He cares about the output, not it you got some code snippet from ai or stackoverflow.
That's a "yes, but", not a "no". |
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Smoogs
lemmy.world
Smoogs@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
ease yourself into linux with ubuntu which has an install for most of the same software as windows uses and when youre ready you can go full FOSS on a deeper linux os. no need to suffer like this. |
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A_Random_Idiot
lemmy.world
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-05 |
IDK why anyone has automatic updates enabled, precisely because of this ocurring at frustrating times. Can this not be disabeled anymore or something?
Windows updates whether you want it to or not. whether you have auto-update on or not. This isnt new with windows 11. I almost got stuck in an airport because windows 10 decided to update, despite being in standby, in my laptop bag like 10 years ago. |
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Andonome
lemmy.world
Andonome@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
You can install Linux in 5
4... |
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Yerbouti
sh.itjust.works
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2024-06-26 |
"I'm afraid I can't let you do that"
I use to have this and other sounds from 2001 as system sounds. |
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Kangae_Hishiryo
scribe.disroot.org
Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.orgJoined: 2026-04-13 |
No, he said AI may be used for assistance in kernel commits, but the same code quality and comprehensibility as before AI is required. He cares about the output, not it you got some code snippet from ai or stackoverflow.
And AI code is intrinsically bad because is fundamentally impossible to understand (yeah, I mean literally). You just can understand what you actually put your effort to comprehend, reason and write by yourself. They're just delegating their reasoning to a machine. Also, Why not LLMs? |
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Poem_for_your_sprog
lemmy.world
Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-13 |
69 |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
As much as I'd like that to be true, this is unfortunately not the case...
You're going to argue that some new never before seen trove of uncontaminated training data was discovered? Perhaps you think the AI Scaling Laws don't exist? Businesses that adopted AI dropped it or went out of business not long after, it's as useless today as it was in the 1980s. |
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TankovayaDiviziya
lemmy.world
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-22 |
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OP is getting fucked alright. |
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OhShitSon
lemmy.zip
OhShitSon@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-26 |
ease yourself into linux with ubuntu which has an install for most of the same software as windows uses and when youre ready you can go full FOSS on a deeper linux os. no need to suffer like this.
I recently got a job which required I use a work computer, which uses Windows and every ms service, some of us do have to suffer like this... |
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fuck_u_spez_in_particular
lemmy.world
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
You're going to argue that some new never before seen trove of uncontaminated training data was discovered? Perhaps you think the AI Scaling Laws don't exist? Businesses that adopted AI dropped it or went out of business not long after, it's as useless today as it was in the 1980s.
No, I'm arguing that the models got better. I unfortunately have to work with them... |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
No, I'm arguing that the models got better. I unfortunately have to work with them...
Pure fantasy, mate. The only thing these machines have proven effective at is psychosis. |
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hereiamagain
sh.itjust.works
hereiamagain@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-08-15 |
I use to have this and other sounds from 2001 as system sounds.
I should do that, that sounds fun |
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glibg10b
lemmy.zip
glibg10b@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-02-05 |
how it go |
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regdog
lemmy.world
regdog@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Remember this day when you purchase your next computer. |
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Martineski
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-09-07 |
Don't leave security updates hanging for over a week then. That's when the system starts trying to actively fix your inability to utilize ANY of the update delay and scheduling options included in the OS. Microsoft and many other companies release updates literally the second Tuesday of each month. The update cycle is so common and decades old that there is literally a name for it, Patch Tuesday.
Because windows ever informed me of anything like that instead of using dark patterns to force things on me without any elaboration. And windows is full of stuff like this whilist providing the users much much less control than linux. I've been conditioned to expect no settings for things I want on windows and the settings that are actually there to be overwriten by windows at any time without again, informing me in any way or caring about my consent. Not to mention that the settings UX is a big mess on windows and are a PITA to use. |
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fuck_u_spez_in_particular
lemmy.world
fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-24 |
Pure fantasy, mate. The only thing these machines have proven effective at is psychosis.
In what fantasy world are you living, that you don't believe that?? I'm living in the world of software engineering and this is a fucking reality now... I don't like it. I really don't like it. I really would like to agree with you, but it's not the case, since they have introduced reinforcement learning a while ago, the models got quite a bit better, this has nothing to do with AI psychosis or anything. They are not superior for everything (fortunately, otherwise I would have to fear about my job), and I say that as a quite experienced software engineer, but for rather dull tasks they are certainly quite a little bit faster than manually programming per hand, although it's certainly more fun to program by hand even dull tasks... |
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Buddahriffic
lemmy.world
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Seriously, this right here is why I stopped using windows for work and switched to linux for professional reasons. Windows is not serious business software because of shit like this.
Hell, this is why I went out of my way to make sure I could control updates for my personal machine where the only consequences of it doing a random update would be that I can't use it until it's done. I didn't even ever have it actually do an annoying update because the frustration was obvious as soon as I heard the term "automatic updates", like this isn't just for some program, it's for the OS itself and will demand restarts. And that isn't even mentioning the undesirable updates, like the buggy ones or the ones that just enshitify your OS rather than add anything anyone wants, like all those windows 7 "get ready for windows 10" ones and apparently some people even got an automatic "7 to 10" update. And then on Linux, every part of updating is nicer, other than the supply chain attacks (which is unfortunately serious enough I could see it threatening the entire Linux ecosystem itself). |
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