He sure is. I still enjoy the old Megadeth though.

If you said everything post-black album, I'd agree. I kinda liked Load and Reload even, though.

For sure. I don't think that the conversation has to take place in every setting though. Like I don't bring up Palestine in every conversation I have. If someone else brings it up, they get to hear my thoughts. If Metallica didn't want to be associated with the topic, don't bring it up politics at all. I don't agree with Sheeran's response at all, but I do have some level some sympathy that he was forced into the conversation, but that's it. If he were a better person, he could have garnered insane amounts of support, but he's not, so he didn't. Hell, he could have even shielded himself to some extent by just saying that he disagrees with the actions taken against Macklemore and left it at that, even if he carries shitty views. He doubled fucked up by not supporting his friend and by siding with Israel.

I didn't say not to enjoy music if the artists are idiots, just saying you naturally won't miss the music after finding out enough that's intolerable about the artist. What is intolerable is up to you, and the opinions of others is what I meant by 'who cares', I should have finished the sentence: "... who cares what others think."

there is an unintentional trilogy out there :

• This is Spinal Tap
• Some Kind of Monster
• The story of Anvil

Is it actually true about gaiman though? Such a bummer if so. I love his writing.

The accounts about Gaiman are truly reprehensible. Nauseating, even. Dude's a rapist hiding behind kink and non-traditional relationships. (Amanda Palmer is also revealed to be a predatory sociopath at best)

I do miss Die Antwoord and haven't found anything else that hits quite the same. Wish I had known the depths of their shittiness before buying a couple vinyls.

i never give a shit about if an artist is a terrible person. im just listening to music

Rage against the machine is very popular for their political takes, so i guess a lot.

David Draiman (lead singer) did a photo op signing IDF missiles with a sharpie.

In June 2024. Well into the genocide.

They just had to go be the musical version of a pick-me, not like other bands! "We don't do politics" he said, doing politics.

I'm an anarcho-communist and with the current state of the discourse around the word "political" I think I could fairly claim communism isn't political.

Communism is an economical system. The way to achieve is is what is political. Same with Palestine saying free Palestine or i do not want palestinian to be killed is humanitarian, now if you say I support a one state or a two state that's the political side

In case of Ed, he said to Mac privately that free Palestine hurt genocidal people feeling. That the disgusting thing about Ed. He didn't have to say that

That's disturbing.

Her music isn't my cup of tea

Have you heard Vampire? I agree completely otherwise, but her vocals in that are AMAZING!

I'd agree, except I'm guessing glee clubs aren't allowed at BYU because happiness and music are considered sinful.

Who's still convinced in 2026 that celebs and artists are all as politically knowledgeable and insightful as the most ignorant and superficial ones?

Stop.

Art has been political since the invention of art. You cannot separate the two.

Music in general isn't sinful. There's acceptable music - the church's own song books and anything deemed "wholesome." Lindsy Stirling or whatever flavorless trend is on tap.

So, a small group of lily white return missionaries performing their "new" and "unique" a capella version of "I'm a Believer" would be put on a pedestal and promoted to death.

The music I enjoy is definitely on their "no play list."

Exactly. Silence was an option.

Yeah, like Soggy said, it’s really bad and he hides behind kink, which as a person who is into kink, it really grosses me out because consent is so important in that space. Any seriously problematic author or musician that is that bad, I just can’t support.

That said, if I saw something at the thrift store by a problematic creator, I would consider purchasing it because they don’t get money for it. My favorite thrift store supports the animal rescue where I adopted my rabbits from. They have books and CDs for a dollar so I’m ok buying from them if it’s a piece of media I truly want to absorb and the money would go to a good cause.

Paying my bunny tax

They also have a pretty famous choir…

But fuck their weirdo religion and the damage it does around the world.

Palestine is a political group. All nations are. All cultures are.

But if "political" just means "whatever I think should be controversial", then communism is apolitical.

Free Palestinians mean free it's people which is humanitarian not political

Music is a core part of culture, and a large part of how one’s worldview is created and normalized. Listening to music made by assholes has potential to make you a bigger asshole.

I grew up in the 80s, and this is just not true, they were metal AF. However, in the 90s they decided to become Bon Jovi, and these days they belong musically in "classic rock", and their mentality belongs in "out of touch millionaires".

he was great when he drank a lot

lol

Jesus fucking christ.

I really liked some of his covers, but that was beyond grotesque to see.

Very much so.

I’ve said it before. Metallica are the old prejudiced white guys of metal. They’re rich and fly around in private jets. They had all kinds of anti-establishment and anti-war lean in their early music and they have walked back those lyrics to “not really mean what they say” these days. Their concert parking lot tailgaters fly Trump flags, thin blue line flags, Gadsden flags, and and firearms flags. Just like the concert attendees wearing clothes featuring Grunt Style, raggedy flags and punisher logos. Then they tour with performative military rock bands like Five Finger douche punch.

They were anti-authority metal that grew up, made money, and decided to be the ones holding the batons and riot guns instead. And they sued fans, ruining lives over money that didn’t affect their rich asses one bit.

Fuck Metallica.

Vampire was an instant earworm for me when it came out, because I'm a sucker for the Creep chord progression. That, and her energy in the song.

So it makes the occasional appearance in my otherwise mostly metal-dominated song rotation.

Ironically(?) her cover of Creep a while ago was the first time I heard her voice. It did make me go, "Huh. Not bad at all."

Been a metalhead my whole life and fully agree with this statement.

Metallica is the Walmart of metal.

For me it was the lyrics in Brutal

Maybe he was drunk when he wrote "Sweating Bullets". No matter what that guy does (within reason) that song remains awesome to me

And I just wanna protect people from the evils of capitalism. It's humanitarian, not political.

I think he was more targeting Haley Williams from Paramore wasn't he?

They also love to make a big thing about donating money thats not even theirs.

was like 6 years or so ago, tthey made a big deal about donating 250 grand to a romanian childrens hospital.

I said that was a bullshit amount that was perfectly calculated to sound like a lot of money to poor people, without being an actual lot of money, and that it was little more than them buying publicity and advertising, because that 250k was a fuckload cheaper than actual advertising cost, but it got them wall to wall coverage.

and people ripped my ass open in all 8 cardinal directions for it

and it ended up the money didnt even come from them, it came from mastercard it was just funneled through some charity they supposedly control. So they got all the fame for it, without costing themselves one single goddamn cent.

Would say the same, maybe because of the age gap. Yet many of her songs are earworms which I enjoy. And I love this collab with Robert Smith from her recent album:
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXUpBguRTA

The shitty Metallica members don't fall far from the Lars...

Sad but true

🤨🫸 "getting political takes from celebrities"

😎👉 "choosing artists for their political takes"

ba dum tshhh

(out of tempo)

What's a thin blue line flag?

You mean Metallicock.

Getting them from random anonymous weirdos in the internet = much better

Support the police flag and I don't mean the band.