I mean yeah it’s the old way to serve ads but it’s incredibly inefficient. Even an example as broad as sports.com, ESPN+ might want to advertise but they only offer their service in the US. They don’t want to pay for impressions from users in France, so a minimum would be geo targeting based on IP.

When you get down to medium and small business, I could have some watches to sell to sports dudes, but my campaign budget is $10,000 so I would only target men 40+ because 20 year old college football fans can’t afford the product.

I don’t like the ad ecosystem but people generally don’t want to pay subscriptions for websites but like the publisher’s content. Publishers gotta get paid somehow.

What a great reminder to turn off all those trackers. Thanks Lemmy!

So here's an advertisement for an advertisement? Because that's my gmail content.

TV and radio managed just fine for years without targeted ads. They targeted the ads based on the content. Saturday morning cartoons advertised toys and ceral. Daytime TV advertises medicare advantage plans for retirees. Country radio advertises white hoods or whatever.

Meanwhile, subscription services without ads also made money.

Targeted ads were never necessary. Outlaw them and the internet and media companies won't disappear.

I mean yeah it’s the old way to serve ads but it’s incredibly inefficient.

Why do we have to make advertising efficient?

Personally I think advertising needs a LOT more regulation.

I felt that nextcloud photos/memories was a bit lackluster compared to immich, but good news is, via community plugins you're able to integrate immich into your nextcloud as if it were part of the suite and you get the best of both worlds.

Nextcloud for gdrive, office, email, todo lists, calendar, Spotify, a kanban board, budget tracker, and a simple notes option (personally I prefer obsidian w/ nc file sync and I might do tiny edits/touch ups in notes since it's all markdown anyway)

Though I saw there's a way to use obsidian gui through a docker container, so you COULD use the external links feature to have it also be accessible through nextcloud, which is tempting but its more fluff that I don't feel like dealing with rn..

I think a lot of Pixel devices came with a promo where your photos don't count toward your drive space. That's also the case for me

Yes! Or even just any limits on targeting granularity. Like "show ads for my nail salon to all the women in a 3 mile radius" seems fine. But "show this ad to women aged 33 who have 3 cats and who have been to Kohl's twice in the last month and have watched at least 30 seconds of videos about Charlie Kirk" is just fucking insane, and they go even farther than that.

Oh interesting, thanks for the info. Do they charge depending on how many emails you receive? If I'm understanding your last sentence right.

What are you using now?

TV and Radio ads are somewhat targeted because at a minimum your location is known, either within the radio tower reach or the channels you have access to and/or geolocation your TV provider has access to.

Monday Night Football does not show the same ads in every region. Some are national and others are local, there is still some programattic at play. If you watch through a smart TV you’ll get CTV ads for sure.

The entities paying for the advertising demand it. It could be untargeted but the conversion rate falls so the ROI of paying ads is less, leading to less to spend per campaign.

Publishers can show the untargeted ads but they get paid less per impression.

I love Immich and use it as my primary backup but I had been using Google Photos as my secondary backup (partially out of laziness to find a new offsite backup). Are there any other cheap photo hosts?

Nope, ik what i wrote, they want Gmail, any other mail id is not acceptable

The definition of vibe coding seems to be very flexible nowadays. It used to mean using AI to generate code without looking at the code (and being a programmer being optional as well).

But some people call any AI assistance vibe coding, which makes any discourse difficult. Because anyone can say "no it's not" even though you are both in agreement about what's happening, only because the term is being misused.

In my country, my school or my brother college. It is like Whatsapp, people just expect you to have specifically that since most people already use Android.

You may think that we can give any other mail but these institutions are maybe dumb to any kind of dofference.

In my opinion it's also the better option if you can self-host, it's more mature than Immich.

Interesting... what country if you don't mind my asking?

Sorry won't say that, hope you don't mind.

I was thinking what a great reminder to take pictures with a camera not a phone.

To listen to music with a music player that has physical memory not cloud.

To keep things separate and private that you want to keep to yourself.

Anyone recommend a self hosted alternative to Google photos?

There's multiple. Immich comes to mind

Many Government website in my country allow only gmail, yahoo and outlook.

Agreed, targeted advertising and collecting private information about a person and storing it should be illegal. Decentralized systems, cryptocurrency or tokenized payments, and ephemeral order data that is wiped immediately after fulfillment should be standard. The Internet should be privacy focused.

Photos is immich for sure

Photoprism or Immich

I think the new definition for letting AI do all the work is cuck coding (you just tell it what to do) and vibe coding stays more integrated and involved

And that's why it should be regulated heavily. Advertising uses scientifically backed methods to short circuit people's judgement and drive consumerism.

You ever tried to enforce the changes needed to stop all of that tracking on a small group of friends/family? The number of people that actually like it as long as the down sides are not put in there face is wild.

I don't mean this as disagreement, just an interesting observation about people.

I know multiple people below you said Immich already but to give more details: it absolutely is one of the most well run and stable self hosted apps I own. Extremely reliable and works exactly as I need it. It was one of the first FOSS applications I supported monetarily because I believed in it so much.

Google has turned its back on every single thing it use to stand for. Down to the “don’t be evil” slogan.

I know. I'm just stuck with gmail and doing what I can

I still miss the free unlimited 2mp backup for photos.

Turning that off topped off my storage and I've been over 90% ever since.

Need a direct link or path... Going to hunt now.

Google account settings > data and privacy > Personalization settings > disable and delete all

Just for completeness: If you are looking for an android gallery app without backup/sync and which is privacy friendly, try Fossify gallery
https://www.fossify.org/apps/gallery/

Hands down immich.

I thought i had to disable that shirt years ago. Let me guess.. they turned it back on?

No, you need to select a plan with enough storage quota.

If you store 10 years worth of emails for work, it gets super pricey.

I switched to mxroute. A no frills mail provider. great deliverability, but no web ui.

I’ve already agreed the ads ecosystem sucks.

If you had it your way, small businesses could probably not afford to advertise online. It would only be businesses who could blanket the internet with their banners at mass scale without targeting.

We already have GDPR, TCF 2 and various other privacy frameworks and laws localized. What do you want to change?

I personally like publishers staying in businesses who produce valuable content.

A mix of both would be great. Something where your target your ads based on the content only, like the old days, and you don't need to know your customers at all. Only what you guess they're most likely to be interested in.

Put gaming ads on twitch streams, or pay a youtuber to be a sponsor. They're plenty of ways to "target your ads" while not needing to gather all the information you can possibly gather on every single individual in the world

Since it seems to be tied to Gemini settings, I think they were not able to design gemini integration in a way that separates data used by gemini from gmail and photos. Let's say if google uses your gemini chats for targeted ads, if gemini mentions your emails, that will already be part of the data being tracked for ads. So, maybe just disable gemini chat history.

The memories feature [...] doesn't compile any sort of custom album based on a theme or place or anything like that.

Damnit, you had me sold up until this part. I need the memories feature to work exactly how it does on GPhotos (or in a similar way). But I still have a lot of comment replies to sort through so I'm hopeful I'll find the perfect replacement.

Not able to seems less likely than chose not to. Google has plenty of resources to throw at the problem.

You can still target ads based on location, but you do it through targeted content like they used to, which also g9ves us more diverse content.

When a local business wanted to put an ad out and didn't want to go nationwide, they'd advertise in the local paper. Now they just pay Google to target people, which is why 90% of local news has died.

Anyone happen to have a large repository of butthole pictures I can borrow?

How long until this gets used as a reason to gaslight people into using the memory leak browser? 🤔

That's sad. What country?

If a website can tell what zip code you're in based on IP, that's good enough. If someone is using a VPN and their approximate location is obfuscated, the USER can choose to volunteer their location if they want localized ads.

Targeted advertising of any kind should be voluntary.

I also believe billboards should be taken down. Advertisers have been given carte blanche to hijack our eyes, ears, and attention without permission for far too long.

Yeah there’s a been a few attempts at “privacy preserving” user id hashing like Google Topics, ID5, and many more.

Publishers love private deals for ad spend, it’s just more work and can be inconsistent vs programmatic that is less revenue but always flowing.

UGH FINE ASSHOLES I'LL DEGOOGLE

gonna take me like 15 minutes this is outrageous

Ohh gotcha, thanks for the clarification, that makes sense! And thanks for sharing about mxroute, TIL.