Paid actor. Or edgy kid trying for internet points.

Sure you don't want to throw Russian or AI in there with your excuses to dismiss anyone who wanted democrats to quit supporting genocide?

No Lemming worth their salt directs any traffic toward Reddit.

I'd prefer it if nazis remain there.

I think that the Democrats are comparable to Republicans on treatment of Muslims. Democrats have supported and armed the Palestinian genocide, as well as waging war elsewhere in the Middle East. I wouldn't say (and have never said) that they're worse than Republicans, but they're certainly comparable. I don't think that "materially supporting a genocide and forcibly silencing dissent, apologetically" and "materially supporting a genocide and forcibly silencing dissent, gleefully," are "incomperable."

Is there any way for me to defend that position, or am I just automatically a bot, logic and evidence be damned?

I still can't believe the americans chose him over Kamala.

If you're a Jew in Germany in, say ... 1926, what's your best option for survival?

Voting? lol

Staying and fighting? Good on you, but your chances of surviving that are extremely slim.

Staying and hiding? Somewhat better chances, but still pretty bad.

Getting the fuck out of Germany and going far away? By far your best chance.

Sure.

You’re a Jew in Germany in 1926?

Far out.

I’d take the green party more seriously if they ditched Jill Stein.

The green party is tiny and has tiny primaries. And their primaries actually happen. We could walk in and take it over pretty easily.

We need to make real world strides, and I don’t think that’s accomplished by deriding liberals or democrats non-stop. It just won’t work.

Being content while the party continues its sprint to the right will certainly accomplish what you want.

Republicans' candidates do what their voters want them to do.

Democrats' candidates only do what the genocidal centrists in the party want them to do.

go join a marxist leninist org (literally any of them would do even tho most of them are garbage) and educate people, raise awareness

You don't need my stamp of approval, but you definitely don't sound like a bot.

I think the current situation in the Middle East, compared to two years ago, very clearly shows that the two parties are not in any way comparable as you claim. You seem to pick both reacting wrong to the same situation (the Gaza conflict/Palestinian genocide) as proof that they are the same and I find that claim disingenuous.

You need to replace these people through primaries.

The primaries where the party selectively protects centrist incumbents like Henry Cuellar, but not progressive incumbents like Cori Bush or Jamaal Bowman. The primaries we didn't even get in the 2024 presidential election. The primaries that the party successfully argued in court that they don't have to run honestly.

Don't treat primaries like a panacea to people who no longer trust the primary process.

Did you forget that there's people in the US who aren't allowed to vote? They're what, not American? Not able to talk about this because they are legally barred from voting?

Desperate gotcha to suggest that I don't know my home just because you get offended at the possibility of having to actually change how you think.

I apologize. I thought you might have the mental acuity necessary to understand analogies and hypotheticals.

If you think Newsom is as bad as Trump you’re outright stupid.

If you think he's an acceptable candidate, you'll be blaming everyone who tells you he'll lose when it happens.

You’ll recall that Biden actually kept many of the Donald tariffs, so yes, it’s likely we’d be okay with disrupting trade to some extent.

And introduced his own tariffs on Chinese EVs.

We provide solutions. You ignore them because they involve not supporting genocide.

and then forbade her from straying even an inch from his party line.

Not true. Moving to his right and promising to appoint a republican to her cabinet was just fine.

Republicans don't vote for democrats, but democrats will abandon every last principle and every last vulnerable minority chasing their votes.

I blasphemed against the religion of every centrist, so he blocked me.

I voted for Harris.

I also tried to warn you genocidal fucks that she would lose if she kept supporting genocide. None of you wanted her to stop; you just wanted the forced silence of everyone who had a problem with genocide.

And still do.

You were fine with trump as long as you got your genocide.

This is what will keep happening if the Dems election strategy remains "if you don't vote for us you get that asshole". And use them as an excuse not to do anything.

Voting for someone does not mean you support everything they stand for.

I've seen what centrists do when they don't get their very first choice. They campaigned against Mamdani and formed a PAC to get McCain elected.

Your local Dem will not be 100% aligned with your worldview (unless it’s you in office).

Biden and trump supported genocide, so they supported 100% of everything you've ever been.

I think if you put the responsibility on the voters and not the coalition of politicians that claim to represent them, after a while that starts to seem less like advocacy and more like victim blaming.

As a trans person, the past decade has progressively gotten more terrifying. For me, a politician that is actively trying to harm me is not going to be meaningfully distinct from a politician that is not trying to shield me from the repressive harm that is already built into the system.

Furthermore, I do not think shaming people for taking a stance on genocide is going to win anyone over aside from people who support genocide. The Democrats may have handled things differently but that doesn't mean it'd be better for the Palestinians or the Middle East.

When a party won't stand up for marginalized people and victims of genocide how can they be trusted to defend anyone when in power? At a certain point you have to recognize the problem, even if you still vote for them. Voter shaming people who reject the harm won't fix it.

I have friends and family getting their rights taken away and getting deported right now I need Trump gone.

Then you need a candidate who can win. Not a candidate you want because they're a genocidal piece of shit and you love nothing in this world but genocide.

yOu LoVe tEh GeNoSiiiiiDe

You downplay opposition to your only policy. Because, and this is the only true thing about you or any centrist: YOU. LOVE. GENOCIDE.

I’m sure once all the Palestinians are dead they’ll take great comfort in knowing you not once compromised in your unwavering support.

I'm sure you'll feel empty because there are no more Palestinians left to kill.

Because your position is forcing children to endure the wrong puberty.

a progressive like Kamala

Fuck off with this lie.

I can name a few vulnerable minorities that have been abandoned by people who allowed republicans to take power, can you name any the democrats abandoned?

Yes "my way". As an American jew I'm totally not horrified by what my supposed homeland is doing, and I certainly don't challenge anyone to call me a Jewish antisemite for saying "Fuck Israel". And I also don't still have to live with that complicit radioactive orange dementia patient as my fucking President because a bunch of pansy cocksuckers couldn't get off their knees and go fucking vote against him.

Primaries

Keep gloating that we didn't get those.

"Not fascist" wasn't on the ballot.

Single issue voters are the worse.

May I ask what country you're from so that I know who to credit when I use this one?

Need a bandaid?

It's a fundamental flaw with the 2-party system. There are no good options, only a "lesser evil" option.

And your purity position is that a Nazi in power that threatens everyone is better than "not perfect".

If people are unhappy they vote for the party not in power. Social media is much better at making us all unhappy than happy. I don’t think we will see a 2 term president for a while.

Really? So democratic presidents don't wage war in the Middle East?

They also weren't just "reacting wrong to a situation." They (both Republicans and Democrats) have caused this situation. Who was it who said, "If Israel did not exist, the United States would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region?"

There's been a near-complete bipartisan consensus on conquering the Middle East since at least Bush. Obama had every opportunity to withdraw and chose instead to double down, as well as orchestrating regime change in Libya. Everyone's also been quietly bombing Yemen for decades.

The difference between them is mostly how concerned they are with legality and propriety. But both are committed to the imperial project of conquering the Middle East. Bipartisan support for arms to Israel to conquer Palestine (and Lebanon) The overthrow of governments in Libya and Syria. Direct invasion and occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan. It's simply untrue to claim that this project started under Trump. Of course, Trump has mostly forgone the usual pretense of inventing pretexts for the aggression and is much more mask off about everything. But the overall goal is the same, Republicans are just dumber and more brazen about persuing it.

Those bases aren't just there because of Trump.

Democrats who ignored all the warnings about how failing to represent their constituents would result in a loss allowed republicans to take power. Not that democrats ever wield it when they have it.

Undocumented immigrants, when democrats permanently adopted republican border policy for a stupid momentary gotcha.

Trans people, when democrats not only said nothing, they actually ran anti-trans hate in their own ads.

Palestinian Americans. This has to be obvious even to you.

Women, when democrats preferred to keep the filibuster over codifying Roe.

Your policy results in trans kids committing suicide. And it's why you want it so bad.

Yeah, you should find an issue other than genocide to support.

So it is worth letting the bad things happen now because they probably would have happened anyway a decade from now? And winning an election against the republicans would have convinced democrats to adopt the republican mindset, which won't happen after that mindset is proven to win elections?

And I also don’t still have to live with that complicit radioactive orange dementia patient as my fucking President because a bunch of pansy cocksuckers couldn’t get off their knees and go fucking vote against him.

Maybe if democrats credibly supported something other than genocide, more people would have voted against him.

But you can’t deny a progressive Führer wouldn’t be better for us.

Sure the Jews, gays, and other undesirables may suffer but the far-right Führer made it bad for us as well and that’s unacceptable.

Yes. I agree, but unfortunately I'm not buddies with Nancy Pelosi or whoever the fuck picks these people, and I don't make the rules, I just live under them.

Yes. I agree, but

But you blame the voters instead of the politicians who refuse to represent them.