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tempest lemmy.ca tempest@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-30
#52 · Quote Reply

It’s amazing that anyone was fooled by this marketing. It shows you the power of it I guess. The first time I tried Nutella I immediately knew what it was: chocolate hazelnut cake frosting. The fact that people slather it on their toast every day seemed as absurd to me as eating cake frosting every day.

North America has long had sweet treats as breakfast or early morning food so I'm surprised you're surprised.

Things like Danish, donuts, pop tarts, toaster strudel, breakfast cereal... Etc etc

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anomnom sh.itjust.works anomnom@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-11-09
#53 · Quote Reply

And even stick their tongue inside, making out style with the jar, making sure no more chocolate taste left Ladies, are you having trouble getting your man to go down on you? Boyfriends hate this one simple trick!

All that sugar sounds like asking for a yeast infection.

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tempest lemmy.ca tempest@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-30
#54 · Quote Reply

Well, it was supposed to be mainly a hazelnut cream with some sugar, cocoa and maybe a few other minor ingredients. And in fact, when it was new and conquering markets, that was what it was. I think the decades starting with the early 1990s had desensitized a lot of us to enormous amounts of sugar, and in the end we didn't even consciously notice anymore how sweet that stuff had gotten.

I'm actually a bit surprised it has so much sugar in it and they haven't tried to replace it with some sort of artificial sweetener or HFCS. The sugar has to be the lion share of the cost, maybe tied with the Coco.

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Nurse_Robot lemmy.world Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-12
#55 · Quote Reply

How do you know this?

I can tell by the pixels

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chonglibloodsport lemmy.world chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#56 · Quote Reply

North America has long had sweet treats as breakfast or early morning food so I'm surprised you're surprised. Things like Danish, donuts, pop tarts, toaster strudel, breakfast cereal... Etc etc

Sure but not a chocolate cake. Putting Nutella on a piece of bread is basically having a piece of chocolate cake for breakfast.

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#57 · Quote Reply

I can tell by the pixels

It's for sure not nutella that just separated. I don't see how it can be anything other than a shop.

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Barley_Man sopuli.xyz Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-08-31
#58 · Quote Reply

Or is that just propaganda to prevent palm oil from taking to much marketshare? You need at least 3 times as much farmland to make an equal amount of any other form of vegetable oil. Most farm oil used in Europe is from sustainable farming, Indonesia makes 50% of the palm oil on the global market, and they claim to have regulated palm oil farming to be sustainable. Palm oil is an excellent oil,...

Since oil palms only grow in humid tropical environments it really comes down to which land we value the most. By using 3 hectares in Europe we could save 1 hectare of land in rainforests. What is worth more, 1 hectare rainforest in Indonesia or 3 hectares of native woodland in Europe? It's not really clear cut. One could argue that 1 hectare of rainforest is more valuable because of the higher biodiversity. However there is not one natural answer to this question and ultimately subjective.

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SkaveRat discuss.tchncs.de SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-09
#59 · Quote Reply

It's for sure not nutella that just separated. I don't see how it can be anything other than a shop.

ah yes. the only two options.

definitely not something someone has made as a prop to show the proportions

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#60 · Quote Reply

Well, it was supposed to be mainly a hazelnut cream with some sugar, cocoa and maybe a few other minor ingredients. And in fact, when it was new and conquering markets, that was what it was. I think the decades starting with the early 1990s had desensitized a lot of us to enormous amounts of sugar, and in the end we didn't even consciously notice anymore how sweet that stuff had gotten.

Many years ago I developed a weird food intolerance called Fructose Malabsorption. Basically, free fructose molecules mess me up, but sucrose (table sugar) doesn't, so among other things I started avoiding things with much HFCS in them. I started getting unsweetened iced tea at restaurants and adding sugar. I was absolutely disgusted by how much sugar you have to add to make it as sweet as a soda or sweet tea. In a regular sized drink cup (american medium), I add three packets, and that is very slightly sweet. To make it as sweet as "normal" I'd easily have to add three times that.

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#61 · Quote Reply

ah yes. the only two options. definitely not something someone has made as a prop to show the proportions

I considered that, but I don't think the palm oil would stay separated on top like that. I certainly could be wrong.

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als lemmy.blahaj.zone als@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-10-25
#62 · Quote Reply

Also cruel to monkeys or something.

Well orangutans live in the forest that is burned down

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SkaveRat discuss.tchncs.de SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-09
#63 · Quote Reply

I considered that, but I don't think the palm oil would stay separated on top like that. I certainly could be wrong.

it's quite solid at room temperature

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daannii lemmy.world daannii@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-08
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

Pretty sure they reduced the palm oil by a lot.

So is this true for the current one ,?

Maybe it's been changed again more recently too.

https://time.com/5016830/nutella-recipe-change/

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1pr16t5/new_nutella_recipe_sucks/

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Drekaridill lemmy.wtf Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2025-11-03
#65 · Quote Reply

I'm pretty sure they mix it up a bit...

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Zombie feddit.uk Zombie@feddit.uk
Joined: 2024-06-01
#66 · Quote Reply

Palm oil is almost or entirely unique among plant oils in that it is solid at room temperature without hydrogenation, so it's a plant oil that behaves like an animal fat in recipes. How's it compare to lard in sustainability?

Definitely not entirely unique.

RBD coconut oil can be processed further into partially or fully hydrogenated oil to increase its melting point. Since virgin and RBD coconut oils melt at 24 °C (75 °F), foods containing coconut oil tend to melt in warm climates. A higher melting point is desirable in these warm climates, so the oil is hydrogenated. The melting point of hydrogenated coconut oil is 36–40 °C (97–104 °F).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil#Manufacturing

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diverging piefed.social diverging@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-04
#67 · Quote Reply

I'm actually a bit surprised it has so much sugar in it and they haven't tried to replace it with some sort of artificial sweetener or HFCS. The sugar has to be the lion share of the cost, maybe tied with the Coco.

The sugar also supplies a significant amount of the volume of the product. Artificial sweetener is significantly sweeter than sucrose, like hundreds of times sweeter, so just swapping the sugar for artificial sweetener would require them to use a bulking agent. The safest bulking agent that doesn't change the flavor or texture would be sugar.

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𝜯𝐞𝐡 𝜝𝐚𝐦𝐬𝐤𝐢 lemmy.world TehBamski@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-23
#68 · Quote Reply

I'm pretty sure they mix it up a bit...

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ccunning lemmy.world ccunning@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-01
#69 · Quote Reply

Sure but not a chocolate cake. Putting Nutella on a piece of bread is basically having a piece of chocolate cake for breakfast.

I mean we have a cereal that’s openly marketed as just a box full of mini chocolate chip cookies

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X piefed.world X@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-10-20
#70 · Quote Reply

I absolutely get the point. That said, I prefer eating my pizza dough first, then cheese, then marinara sauce. Sometimes I go sauce first when I think no one’s looking. Drink it right outta the tub like a champ.

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ccunning lemmy.world ccunning@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-01
#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

Palm oil is bad because rainforest is burned down to grow more monoculture palm oil. https://wwf.panda.org/discover/our_focus/food_practice/sustainable_production/palm_oil/

This basically describes all agricultural:

  1. Clear wild land
  2. Implement monoculture
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ccunning lemmy.world ccunning@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-01
#72 · Quote Reply

Palm oil = deforestation.

Nearly all agriculture clears wild land and replaces it with monoculture.

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paraphrand lemmy.world paraphrand@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

Nearly all agriculture clears wild land and replaces it with monoculture.

Yup. And it increases as demand increases. Palm oil has seen a surge in use, replacing other things, over the last few decades. This is due to trans fats being phased out. So we traded one major problem for another.

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Lost_My_Mind lemmy.world Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-07
#74 · Quote Reply

The sugar and fat is why I eat it

I'm fat and sweet. Eat me!

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WolfmanEightySix piefed.social WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-02-05
#75 · Quote Reply

Well orangutans live in the forest that is burned down

Cruel to them then. Not monkeys.

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Lost_My_Mind lemmy.world Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-07
#76 · Quote Reply

I guess I've seen so many of these things that I've stopped being surprised. This one was really popular for a long time.

That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar.

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chonglibloodsport lemmy.world chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#77 · Quote Reply

I mean we have a cereal that’s openly marketed as just a box full of mini chocolate chip cookies

Everyone knows those cereals are for kids and only as a special treat, not an every day thing.

If someone wants to have banana Nutella crepes for breakfast once a month I don’t think that’s a big deal. But having toast with Nutella every day (or cookie cereal) is not a normal thing to do.

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dogdeanafternoon lemmy.ca dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-10-18
#78 · Quote Reply

Couldn't be me

Loving the Matilda reference!

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Dimi Fisher lemmy.world DimFisher@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-28
#79 · Quote Reply

That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar.

The sugar is liquidated dude, what are you talking about? 😳

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𝙈𝙞𝙖 quokk.au Quokka@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-06-09
#80 · Quote Reply

I can tell by the pixels

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-13
#81 · Quote Reply

reduce the sugar and use coconut oil and mmmmm.

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𝙈𝙞𝙖 quokk.au Quokka@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-06-09
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar.

There’s 39 grams of sugar in a a coke can. Sugar is water soluble and 90% of the can is water that can absorb the 10% of sugar.

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SavvyWolf pawb.social savvywolf@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-27
#83 · Quote Reply

I usually have Nutella in my Nutella jars, but you do you.

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nandeEbisu lemmy.world nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#84 · Quote Reply

I'm actually not seeing anything especially surprising here. Does anyone eat a bite of it and not immediately know it's got a ton of fat and sugar in it?

There's a shocking number of people who see words like "hazelnuts" and think its healthy like plain hazelnuts.

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#85 · Quote Reply

There's a shocking number of people who see words like "hazelnuts" and think its healthy like plain hazelnuts.

For sure. Peanut butter isn't much better.

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dandelion lemmy.blahaj.zone dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-03-02
#86 · Quote Reply

21 grams of sugar in a 37 gram serving, so >56% sugar by weight

no wonder it's delicious 😆

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#87 · Quote Reply

it's quite solid at room temperature

Well, maybe so then.

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dandelion lemmy.blahaj.zone dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-03-02
#88 · Quote Reply

There’s 39 grams of sugar in a a coke can. Sugar is water soluble and 90% of the can is water that can absorb the 10% of sugar.

whoa, the Quoakka. I didn't fact check your comment but upvoted anyway. Hopefully you aren't wrong.

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#89 · Quote Reply

That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar.

Yeah, even considering the angle, that seems off. I just did a search and plucked one of the first to come up; I wonder if that version has been messed with.

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megopie lemmy.blahaj.zone megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-15
#90 · Quote Reply

For sure. Peanut butter isn't much better.

I mean, even the worst peanut butter brands are still mostly peanut. Like, they definitely add sugar and soybean oil to them, but, not to that extent. And it’s fairly easy to find peanut butter that is only peanuts without being 4 times the price.

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𝙈𝙞𝙖 quokk.au Quokka@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-06-09
#91 · Quote Reply

whoa, the Quoakka. I didn't fact check your comment but upvoted anyway. Hopefully you aren't wrong.

I hope I'm not wrong as well! I did my best research (I googled) and looked at the nutritional labels (100% 39g of sugar).

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NottaLottaOcelot lemmy.ca NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-02-12
#92 · (edited) Quote Reply

Do yourself a favour and try some real cocoa hazelnut butter from Quebec’s Allo Simonne or from Toronto’s Roasted Nut Company. Decadent, lightly sweet, and without the peculiar greasy texture from the palm oil.

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#93 · Quote Reply

I mean, even the worst peanut butter brands are still mostly peanut. Like, they definitely add sugar and soybean oil to them, but, not to that extent. And it’s fairly easy to find peanut butter that is only peanuts without being 4 times the price.

I'm telling about the kind of peanut butter most people buy. For instance, according to the Skippy peanut butter site, two tablespoons of Skippy has 4g of added sugar, which is about a teaspoon. It's not Nutella levels for sure, but it's still a lot.

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happydoors lemmy.world happydoors@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-04
#94 · Quote Reply

I think it's a photoshop to show proportions.

It’s clearly AI. How is the jar see through?

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howrar lemmy.ca howrar@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-04
#95 · Quote Reply

There's a shocking number of people who see words like "hazelnuts" and think its healthy like plain hazelnuts.

It doesn't help that Nutella has been advertised as being "part of a healthy breakfast".

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gandalf_der_12te discuss.tchncs.de gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-01-12
#96 · Quote Reply

Knowing it has sugar is one thing. Seeing the volume of sugar relative to the other ingredients is still a shock

Like, for solid food, 50% sugar is what's typically in sweets, that means 50g sugar in 100g food. 10% sugar (that means 10g sugar in 100g liquid) is what's in sweet drinks like soda.

The WHO recommends restricting your sugar intake to a maximum of 10% of your calories intake. So for solid food that would be 10g sugar per 100g food, assuming the rest of the food is calorie-rich. For liquids it would be virtually 0g sugar per 100g liquid as liquids contain essentially no other calorie source.

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Zacryon feddit.org Zacryon@feddit.org
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#97 · Quote Reply

I'm pretty sure they mix it up a bit...

No it's a new food trend, haven't you heard? It's called "deconstructed food", where they just throw the raw ingredients at you and leave it up to you to do the actual work. At the same time they sell it at a premium price brainwashing you into believing this is a new high end dining experience. /j

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gandalf_der_12te discuss.tchncs.de gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-01-12
#98 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

sugar is worse (to your health)

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gandalf_der_12te discuss.tchncs.de gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-01-12
#99 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

are you a plant?

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BanMe lemmy.world BanMe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-01
#100 · Quote Reply

No it's a new food trend, haven't you heard? It's called "deconstructed food", where they just throw the raw ingredients at you and leave it up to you to do the actual work. At the same time they sell it at a premium price brainwashing you into believing this is a new high end dining experience. /j

Deconstructed is a very popular way to do haute cuisine dishes. You have to do some of the work, and you only get a small fraction of what an entree would be, and you pay many times more. It's brilliant.

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BanMe lemmy.world BanMe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-01
#101 · Quote Reply

North America has long had sweet treats as breakfast or early morning food so I'm surprised you're surprised. Things like Danish, donuts, pop tarts, toaster strudel, breakfast cereal... Etc etc

Hold up the Dutch straight up put chocolate sprinkles onto buttered toast and you're coming at exclusively at the US? And Danish were named after somewhere. Strudel... that sounds awfully germanic... I think Europe is gaslighting us. Also I've had European milk chocolate, holy shit.

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