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tempest
lemmy.ca
tempest@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-30 |
It’s amazing that anyone was fooled by this marketing. It shows you the power of it I guess. The first time I tried Nutella I immediately knew what it was: chocolate hazelnut cake frosting. The fact that people slather it on their toast every day seemed as absurd to me as eating cake frosting every day.
North America has long had sweet treats as breakfast or early morning food so I'm surprised you're surprised. Things like Danish, donuts, pop tarts, toaster strudel, breakfast cereal... Etc etc |
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anomnom
sh.itjust.works
anomnom@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-11-09 |
And even stick their tongue inside, making out style with the jar, making sure no more chocolate taste left Ladies, are you having trouble getting your man to go down on you? Boyfriends hate this one simple trick!
All that sugar sounds like asking for a yeast infection. |
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tempest
lemmy.ca
tempest@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Well, it was supposed to be mainly a hazelnut cream with some sugar, cocoa and maybe a few other minor ingredients. And in fact, when it was new and conquering markets, that was what it was. I think the decades starting with the early 1990s had desensitized a lot of us to enormous amounts of sugar, and in the end we didn't even consciously notice anymore how sweet that stuff had gotten.
I'm actually a bit surprised it has so much sugar in it and they haven't tried to replace it with some sort of artificial sweetener or HFCS. The sugar has to be the lion share of the cost, maybe tied with the Coco. |
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Nurse_Robot
lemmy.world
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-12 |
How do you know this?
I can tell by the pixels |
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chonglibloodsport
lemmy.world
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
North America has long had sweet treats as breakfast or early morning food so I'm surprised you're surprised. Things like Danish, donuts, pop tarts, toaster strudel, breakfast cereal... Etc etc
Sure but not a chocolate cake. Putting Nutella on a piece of bread is basically having a piece of chocolate cake for breakfast. |
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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)
lemmy.ca
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-10 |
I can tell by the pixels
It's for sure not nutella that just separated. I don't see how it can be anything other than a shop. |
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Barley_Man
sopuli.xyz
Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-08-31 |
Or is that just propaganda to prevent palm oil from taking to much marketshare? You need at least 3 times as much farmland to make an equal amount of any other form of vegetable oil. Most farm oil used in Europe is from sustainable farming, Indonesia makes 50% of the palm oil on the global market, and they claim to have regulated palm oil farming to be sustainable. Palm oil is an excellent oil,...
Since oil palms only grow in humid tropical environments it really comes down to which land we value the most. By using 3 hectares in Europe we could save 1 hectare of land in rainforests. What is worth more, 1 hectare rainforest in Indonesia or 3 hectares of native woodland in Europe? It's not really clear cut. One could argue that 1 hectare of rainforest is more valuable because of the higher biodiversity. However there is not one natural answer to this question and ultimately subjective. |
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SkaveRat
discuss.tchncs.de
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-09 |
It's for sure not nutella that just separated. I don't see how it can be anything other than a shop.
ah yes. the only two options. definitely not something someone has made as a prop to show the proportions |
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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)
lemmy.ca
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-10 |
Well, it was supposed to be mainly a hazelnut cream with some sugar, cocoa and maybe a few other minor ingredients. And in fact, when it was new and conquering markets, that was what it was. I think the decades starting with the early 1990s had desensitized a lot of us to enormous amounts of sugar, and in the end we didn't even consciously notice anymore how sweet that stuff had gotten.
Many years ago I developed a weird food intolerance called Fructose Malabsorption. Basically, free fructose molecules mess me up, but sucrose (table sugar) doesn't, so among other things I started avoiding things with much HFCS in them. I started getting unsweetened iced tea at restaurants and adding sugar. I was absolutely disgusted by how much sugar you have to add to make it as sweet as a soda or sweet tea. In a regular sized drink cup (american medium), I add three packets, and that is very slightly sweet. To make it as sweet as "normal" I'd easily have to add three times that. |
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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)
lemmy.ca
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-10 |
ah yes. the only two options. definitely not something someone has made as a prop to show the proportions
I considered that, but I don't think the palm oil would stay separated on top like that. I certainly could be wrong. |
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als
lemmy.blahaj.zone
als@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-10-25 |
Also cruel to monkeys or something.
Well orangutans live in the forest that is burned down |
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SkaveRat
discuss.tchncs.de
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-09 |
I considered that, but I don't think the palm oil would stay separated on top like that. I certainly could be wrong.
it's quite solid at room temperature |
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daannii
lemmy.world
daannii@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-08 |
Pretty sure they reduced the palm oil by a lot. So is this true for the current one ,? Maybe it's been changed again more recently too. https://time.com/5016830/nutella-recipe-change/ https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1pr16t5/new_nutella_recipe_sucks/ |
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Drekaridill
lemmy.wtf
Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2025-11-03 |
I'm pretty sure they mix it up a bit... |
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Zombie
feddit.uk
Zombie@feddit.uk Joined: 2024-06-01 |
Palm oil is almost or entirely unique among plant oils in that it is solid at room temperature without hydrogenation, so it's a plant oil that behaves like an animal fat in recipes. How's it compare to lard in sustainability?
Definitely not entirely unique.
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diverging
piefed.social
diverging@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-04 |
I'm actually a bit surprised it has so much sugar in it and they haven't tried to replace it with some sort of artificial sweetener or HFCS. The sugar has to be the lion share of the cost, maybe tied with the Coco.
The sugar also supplies a significant amount of the volume of the product. Artificial sweetener is significantly sweeter than sucrose, like hundreds of times sweeter, so just swapping the sugar for artificial sweetener would require them to use a bulking agent. The safest bulking agent that doesn't change the flavor or texture would be sugar. |
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𝜯𝐞𝐡 𝜝𝐚𝐦𝐬𝐤𝐢
lemmy.world
TehBamski@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-23 |
I'm pretty sure they mix it up a bit...
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ccunning
lemmy.world
ccunning@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-01 |
Sure but not a chocolate cake. Putting Nutella on a piece of bread is basically having a piece of chocolate cake for breakfast.
I mean we have a cereal that’s openly marketed as just a box full of mini chocolate chip cookies |
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X
piefed.world
X@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-10-20 |
I absolutely get the point. That said, I prefer eating my pizza dough first, then cheese, then marinara sauce. Sometimes I go sauce first when I think no one’s looking. Drink it right outta the tub like a champ. |
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ccunning
lemmy.world
ccunning@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-01 |
Palm oil is bad because rainforest is burned down to grow more monoculture palm oil. https://wwf.panda.org/discover/our_focus/food_practice/sustainable_production/palm_oil/
This basically describes all agricultural:
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ccunning
lemmy.world
ccunning@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-01 |
Palm oil = deforestation.
Nearly all agriculture clears wild land and replaces it with monoculture. |
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paraphrand
lemmy.world
paraphrand@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-12 |
Nearly all agriculture clears wild land and replaces it with monoculture.
Yup. And it increases as demand increases. Palm oil has seen a surge in use, replacing other things, over the last few decades. This is due to trans fats being phased out. So we traded one major problem for another. |
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Lost_My_Mind
lemmy.world
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-07 |
The sugar and fat is why I eat it
I'm fat and sweet. Eat me! |
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WolfmanEightySix
piefed.social
WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social Joined: 2025-02-05 |
Well orangutans live in the forest that is burned down
Cruel to them then. Not monkeys. |
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Lost_My_Mind
lemmy.world
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-07 |
I guess I've seen so many of these things that I've stopped being surprised. This one was really popular for a long time.
That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar. |
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chonglibloodsport
lemmy.world
chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
I mean we have a cereal that’s openly marketed as just a box full of mini chocolate chip cookies
Everyone knows those cereals are for kids and only as a special treat, not an every day thing. If someone wants to have banana Nutella crepes for breakfast once a month I don’t think that’s a big deal. But having toast with Nutella every day (or cookie cereal) is not a normal thing to do. |
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dogdeanafternoon
lemmy.ca
dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-10-18 |
Loving the Matilda reference! |
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Dimi Fisher
lemmy.world
DimFisher@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-10-28 |
That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar.
The sugar is liquidated dude, what are you talking about? 😳 |
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𝙈𝙞𝙖
quokk.au
Quokka@quokk.auJoined: 2025-06-09 |
I can tell by the pixels
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HubertManne
piefed.social
HubertManne@piefed.social Joined: 2025-03-13 |
reduce the sugar and use coconut oil and mmmmm. |
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𝙈𝙞𝙖
quokk.au
Quokka@quokk.auJoined: 2025-06-09 |
That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar.
There’s 39 grams of sugar in a a coke can. Sugar is water soluble and 90% of the can is water that can absorb the 10% of sugar. |
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SavvyWolf
pawb.social
savvywolf@pawb.socialJoined: 2023-06-27 |
I usually have Nutella in my Nutella jars, but you do you. |
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nandeEbisu
lemmy.world
nandeEbisu@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-04 |
I'm actually not seeing anything especially surprising here. Does anyone eat a bite of it and not immediately know it's got a ton of fat and sugar in it?
There's a shocking number of people who see words like "hazelnuts" and think its healthy like plain hazelnuts. |
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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)
lemmy.ca
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-10 |
There's a shocking number of people who see words like "hazelnuts" and think its healthy like plain hazelnuts.
For sure. Peanut butter isn't much better. |
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dandelion
lemmy.blahaj.zone
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2024-03-02 |
21 grams of sugar in a 37 gram serving, so >56% sugar by weight no wonder it's delicious 😆 |
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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)
lemmy.ca
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-10 |
it's quite solid at room temperature
Well, maybe so then. |
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dandelion
lemmy.blahaj.zone
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2024-03-02 |
There’s 39 grams of sugar in a a coke can. Sugar is water soluble and 90% of the can is water that can absorb the 10% of sugar.
whoa, the Quoakka. I didn't fact check your comment but upvoted anyway. Hopefully you aren't wrong. |
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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)
lemmy.ca
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-10 |
That one can't be real. There's more sugar than could physically fit in the coke can. Like no liquid, just sugar, there's more than 12oz of sugar.
Yeah, even considering the angle, that seems off. I just did a search and plucked one of the first to come up; I wonder if that version has been messed with. |
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megopie
lemmy.blahaj.zone
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-15 |
For sure. Peanut butter isn't much better.
I mean, even the worst peanut butter brands are still mostly peanut. Like, they definitely add sugar and soybean oil to them, but, not to that extent. And it’s fairly easy to find peanut butter that is only peanuts without being 4 times the price. |
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𝙈𝙞𝙖
quokk.au
Quokka@quokk.auJoined: 2025-06-09 |
whoa, the Quoakka. I didn't fact check your comment but upvoted anyway. Hopefully you aren't wrong.
I hope I'm not wrong as well! I did my best research (I googled) and looked at the nutritional labels (100% 39g of sugar). |
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NottaLottaOcelot
lemmy.ca
NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-12 |
Do yourself a favour and try some real cocoa hazelnut butter from Quebec’s Allo Simonne or from Toronto’s Roasted Nut Company. Decadent, lightly sweet, and without the peculiar greasy texture from the palm oil. |
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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version)
lemmy.ca
AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-10 |
I mean, even the worst peanut butter brands are still mostly peanut. Like, they definitely add sugar and soybean oil to them, but, not to that extent. And it’s fairly easy to find peanut butter that is only peanuts without being 4 times the price.
I'm telling about the kind of peanut butter most people buy. For instance, according to the Skippy peanut butter site, two tablespoons of Skippy has 4g of added sugar, which is about a teaspoon. It's not Nutella levels for sure, but it's still a lot. |
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happydoors
lemmy.world
happydoors@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-04 |
I think it's a photoshop to show proportions.
It’s clearly AI. How is the jar see through? |
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howrar
lemmy.ca
howrar@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-04 |
There's a shocking number of people who see words like "hazelnuts" and think its healthy like plain hazelnuts.
It doesn't help that Nutella has been advertised as being "part of a healthy breakfast". |
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gandalf_der_12te
discuss.tchncs.de
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-01-12 |
Knowing it has sugar is one thing. Seeing the volume of sugar relative to the other ingredients is still a shock
Like, for solid food, 50% sugar is what's typically in sweets, that means 50g sugar in 100g food. 10% sugar (that means 10g sugar in 100g liquid) is what's in sweet drinks like soda. The WHO recommends restricting your sugar intake to a maximum of 10% of your calories intake. So for solid food that would be 10g sugar per 100g food, assuming the rest of the food is calorie-rich. For liquids it would be virtually 0g sugar per 100g liquid as liquids contain essentially no other calorie source. |
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Zacryon
feddit.org
Zacryon@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-07-10 |
I'm pretty sure they mix it up a bit...
No it's a new food trend, haven't you heard? It's called "deconstructed food", where they just throw the raw ingredients at you and leave it up to you to do the actual work. At the same time they sell it at a premium price brainwashing you into believing this is a new high end dining experience. /j |
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gandalf_der_12te
discuss.tchncs.de
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-01-12 |
In reply to an earlier post
sugar is worse (to your health) |
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gandalf_der_12te
discuss.tchncs.de
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-01-12 |
In reply to an earlier post
are you a plant? |
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BanMe
lemmy.world
BanMe@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-01 |
No it's a new food trend, haven't you heard? It's called "deconstructed food", where they just throw the raw ingredients at you and leave it up to you to do the actual work. At the same time they sell it at a premium price brainwashing you into believing this is a new high end dining experience. /j
Deconstructed is a very popular way to do haute cuisine dishes. You have to do some of the work, and you only get a small fraction of what an entree would be, and you pay many times more. It's brilliant. |
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BanMe
lemmy.world
BanMe@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-01 |
North America has long had sweet treats as breakfast or early morning food so I'm surprised you're surprised. Things like Danish, donuts, pop tarts, toaster strudel, breakfast cereal... Etc etc
Hold up the Dutch straight up put chocolate sprinkles onto buttered toast and you're coming at exclusively at the US? And Danish were named after somewhere. Strudel... that sounds awfully germanic... I think Europe is gaslighting us. Also I've had European milk chocolate, holy shit. |
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