Trying to shop for sports leggings online: “BUTT LIFTING EFFECT”. I don’t need my butt lifted, it’s fine at its current latitude.

When I was still 'rocking' "men's" fashion, the ads were much simpler.

"Luxury watches. Now for luxury men, only €999."

The fashion though, was also notably shittier in that it's dim. Take women's fashion, remove all the interesting patterns and curves and swirls. Change the colourfulness until it's best described as "depressed pastel trying to be cheerful".

Sweaters and trousers, maybe a scarf if you're feeling avocado toasty.

There you go, that's 99% of "men's" fashion. Thank fuck I moved on from that and realised, why be bound by that? I now shop in whatever I like. If it's women's or men's or a genderfuck, idc, if I like it I like it. :3

Being a woman in that regard liberated me, tbh. I feel men's fashion could use some spruce up, too! skirts for men, swirls and curves, all fun stuff.

In my opinion, the whole ass categorisation in "men's" and "women's" fashion is pointless, especially since sizes vary even between companies. It's handier to just have categories for sizes and fabric, that also helps in finding what to wash with what.

Men's color palettes are awful. I can't count the number of times I've read menswear advice that tells readers to wear colors from nature, and then pretends that flowers, sunsets, and rainbows don't exist.

Colors are good I like colors.

My special move, ULTRA TUMMY CONTROL, allows me to induce extreme indigestion pains in any stomach-having person within a 20 metre radius.

That's something I've been noticing a lot more.

Sure, I do want SOME shaping due to not having a "feminine" body shape (lol at calling it that given the topic) yet, but holy shit it gets insulting, 99% of women don't need any form of "assistance" to look beautiful, but here they are using every way they can think of to make you feel like you NEED this.

The only thing I want shaped is a little fold on my stomach due to losing too much weight that still hasn't gone away fully, and I like a little hip padding since my real hips are basically a flat wall. And my stomach issues can be fixed with a mildly snug undershirt, so I don't even need shapewear above my hips.

You don't need "tummy control", you need a less shitty ad-focused world.

You should try to get to the Senate floor, or maybe the Met Gala.

Anytime someone says "do X from nature" they generally have little knowledge of what nature has.

If I see something on the shelf that advertises tummy control, I put it back. I like My tummy.

In the end I went and got a basic one-piece that's made for people who actually want to swim, there's nothing extra in it - for better or worse - all eyes will be on my nipples, I'm sure.

It was really cheap, and in happy colours, too :-)

I have a 2 piece "al la carte" that I'm happy with rn but this is my plan for my next swim suit. Thanks for the idea.

Parasite Proboscis Pink is big in Japan currently.

You all choose this shit. Sorry not sorry.

Wife wears board shorts and a sun shirt and does just fine. And she looks great if that's what you care about.

Written by Elizabeth Davies, a thin fit weightlifter.

This is a women’s only community.

Not only are you not welcome here, but you can take your gross attitude and shove it.

Women do not choose to be subjected to the patriarchy. We are still subjected to these marketing ploys no matter what type of bathing suit we end up choosing.

Oh look! Another guy who thinks that his opinion on women's lived experience is:

1. informed.
2. Welcome.
3. Intelligent.

This never happens! This is by no means a tiresome daily ritual that gives our poor mods daily overwork!

So? That doesn't mean negative body messaging can't get to her.

As well, even if she doesn't feel personally affected, she can still stand in solidarity with those who are.

But in the end, it's pretty shitty to judge someone's body as a way to invalidate their message. Thin, fit, heavy, out-of-shape, none of that makes a different to the point she's making about women's swimsuit marketing.

Sometimes a tummy manages to gain so much power, is like a congressperson running for their millionth term not out of care for their constituents, but rather just to remain in charge. It will not acquiesce power without a fight, often managing to overpower the mighty brain just to finish off the pizza without mercy.

Such a tummy is a force to be reckoned with. They must be respected.

Looking out of the board room window: see grey parking lots, black railings, white cars, a single patch of green and brown trees, all under a hazy, pale blue sky.

Board members turn to each other: "Yes, these are nature colors."

I have scoured the web and feel there is no swimwear for me available. I want full coverage and quick drying. I don’t want a poofy skirt or a billowy top. I do like bright colors. Ive taken to wearing full length yoga leggings, a swim tank, and a upf hoodie. Best I can do at this point.

Besides, if I wanted my butt held up, I could just ask my partner.

Definitely a good thing that people like that are talking about things like that. If a fat person posted that there would be a deluge of people pointing out how to just lose weight and stop being fat and calories bro it ain't that hard you cant outrun a fork lol you know you can even get surgery must be lazy AND stupid lmao PIGGY BTFO etc.

Someone in shape saying it? Shit, maybe its a problem.

And then they forget to look at other perspectives:

a red dawn,
the orange rise,
the yellow light,
a green grass
bluish water and sky
purple flowers

white clouds and black panthers

nature is so much more colourful and unique than one might expect, and that's the beauty of it.

Maybe try Australia sites? The sunsmart swimwear culture is strong here. Swim tops are called rashies here if that helps.

Maybe something like this site would suite your needs?

https://www.olasol.com.au/

That's why I wear men's swim shorts. You even get to have pockets 😎 and swimwear is one of the only article of men's wear that's easy to find with fun colours !

Yeah, that's how they keep you insecure and buying emotional safety from them.

I think I could be into men if they paid more attention to their manner of dress. I find they're usually quite colourless and plain, and that's just not attractive to me.

It'd be more like a white guy coming to a space for black people and telling them that their lived experience is their fault

I kid you not I was talking about this on mastodon literally 2 hours ago

(cough cough I need mastodon friends cough cough)

Wow! That IS exactly what I’ve been looking for. Lots of good keywords too. Thanks!

Nothing

as a man

Rule 1: Women only.

Congrats on your transition, ma'am!

But what IS the problem exactly? It's just manufacturers trying to make bathing suits flattering for all different body types.

I can't specifically nail it down, I didnt realise I was in the women's section until it was too late, but my guess is its continuing the effort to push the ideal body type that everyone needs to aspire to.

If you dont look like [model-of-the-minute] you're worthless. The old Barbie-Doll argument but they're still showing us how pervasive it is even after all the ruckus

I find swimwear dead unflattering. Like, I look good in clothes, and look good naked, but swimwear is unflattering, there are horizontal lines in the construction that cut across the figure, making it look worse.

"melon floppers" lmfao thanks sis(by) i'm gonna call myself that from now on