>be me
>19
>autistic khhv
>lonely
>get great idea to work on my people skills
>join a friend finding server
>add foid
>we chat
>shits pretty boring she gives typical one word foid responses
>says shes a history major
>I know how to spice this conversation up 
>I think about asking her the classic would you kill baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?
>but then an even better question dawns upon me
>would you molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?
>calls me a freak then blocks me
>hour later I get banned from the discord
>pic related

Staff

We don't need these "jokes" in our server. If you don't know better you present a risk we wish to not allow in our server.

When anon says they're autistic, you better believe them

Honestly, pretty sure not even autism causes a question like that to surface..

« be me, say I have autism to excuse my anti-social behaviours and refusing to see my own fault in this situation. Probably because of my higher brain chemistry and women’s fault »

Terms like "foid" are great in a way, because they make it very easy to identify assholes.

Definitely offered an abundance of context for their conversational partner’s curt responses. You don’t even need the rebuttal greentext, they’ve already confirmed everything.

While in many ways it's genuinely hard to navigate neurotypical society with all its prejudice, it's also actually relatively easy to just not go there

“Not even”

Autism is officially the final boss of communication issues

it’s also actually relatively easy to just not go there

Into neurotypical society or broaching baby molestation? Because I’d have a harder time avoiding one than the other, but I won’t judge my experiences as the only correct ones.

Yeah that's uh... I mean I'm autistic and I was nowhere near that socially inept at age 19, damn.

Also, because I had to look it up:

khhv = kissless hugless handholdless virgin

absolutely deserved

Huh. I can't come up with a reason for why molesting baby Hitler feels so much more wrong than killing baby Hitler. You could even make the argument that it's less wrong.

Is it just because of how killing and death is so normalized in all of modern media?

There's no level of autism that can get you to think that talking about molesting baby Hitler would be a good idea, especially with a girl that anon is presumably trying to impress. There's a reason that anon is on 4chan, and it's not just autism.

Typical people deal with rape, murder is far rarer so there’s less “reality” to it. Go to a war torn country and you’d get a different response. Possivly “who is hitler?”

But, more specifically, the kill baby Hitler question already exists in the social ether to be finished through call and respond. Branching into molestation requires recontextualization which pulls us into reality. It’s no longer call and respond, and you’ve just asked someone if they’d molest a baby.

behold, the Platonic ideal of the 4chan user

See for me I don't think killing babies is any more or less appropriate. They are both horrifying questions that I can't understand anyone not being able to say "no" to either question.

If youre back in time you could just work to not create a genocidal piece of shit. Also, this presumes that he was the only problem - there were many other horrible people involved, so there would likely just be another to take his place anyway.

Both questions are just off the charts level wrong to me and worth reporting. Though I bet there were plenty of other things said in the chat which would have also fit this ban message.

Kind of an easy one.

I would molest baby Hitler if I knew beforehand that it would stop the holocaust. Its disgusting but to save that many lives its above my personal comfort. its a duty to humanity at that point.

You’re not wrong to feel the way that you do. But I would recommend that you try to understand where others tend to draw the incredibly arbitrary violence line

I would molest baby Hitler

~fizz@lemmy.nz

Now everyone will know, for better or worse

Frankly, I don't see how killing baby Hitler is not... extremely obviously morally superior to molesting baby Hitler.

You can kill anybody nearly instantly.

'Molestation' implies... over a signifcant amount of time.

It also implies that this is done in lieu of directly killing baby Hitler.

So you've now generated an even more fucked up Hitler.

Who will... regardless of how their time travel affrcted lifepath plays out... well they'll have been molested. As a core memory.

That... seems to me to be less moral, causes more Hitler-suffering, unnecessarily.

You've minimized total suffering, via killing baby Hitler.

... this is all assuming that just... doing either of these things somehow results in Hitler not coming to power, WW2 doesn't happen, holocaust doesn't happen.

Frankly I also do not see anything near a guaranteed causality to 'molesting baby Hitler' -> 'somehow WW2 does not happen'.

Whereas it is at least semi-plausible that killing baby Hitler at least could result in ww2/holocaust not happening... I guess the ... Strasserists just stay in control of the Nazis? And do not have a strangely charismatic firebrand to massively expand the movement?

So it also just seems very impractical, unlikely that molesting baby Hitler would achieve the presumably desired aim.

And it also assumes that these are your only two possible actions.

Of course the entire thing is ludicrous is the sense of hinging on perfect foreknowledge, and time travel, which is fundamentally paradoxical, and/or results quantum suicide/immortality type nonsense, and/or in the Red Alert timeline.

Oh god, and we essentially have to assume that this will be the only possible instance of time travel that ever happens, otherwise we potentially get into a kind of battling time travellers scenario ala whatever the fuck the Terminator series is doing now, and/or just a reality where many people can do time travel.

Why not just do... teleportation, and either kill or molest Trump or Netanyahu, right now?

I think I'd again conclude that telefragging them would be morally superior.

Anon is ... special. And not in a good way.

Would I molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust?

I mean, probably not?

See this one 4chan creep there is why all those time travelers are shooting everyone who goes to see baby Hitler. We could have just killed baby Hitler in peace with Marx but someone had to and ruin things. Was this SCHOPENHAUER? IT WAS YOU WASN'T YOU SCHOPENHAUER ADMIT IT

I'd rather try and give baby Hitler a nice comfortable life with an understanding mentor, so that he never develops the hatred and closemindedness needed for the implementation of the Holocaust.

Well, knowing who was really behind 4chan, this is not surprising.

It left a generation of...waste, for us to deal with.

I'd let him be, he prevented a worse genocide by giving America the ick of eugrnics.

Not everyone is even capable of that.

How the fuck can you reduce everything to a binary operation?

To be fair, he was innocent as a baby obviously.

But much easier to imagine woodchipping him than well, the fucked up shit anon spouted.

Maybe we are all different kinds of sick?

I dont expect everyone to be capable of it. Im just saying put me in there coach and I can get it done. To save millions of people of course.

Misplace him into an Orphanage, problem solved!

Big fucking oof. And I say that as someone who routinely ruins peoples’ days with my comments.

“…I molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust”

~queenhawlsera@sh.itjust.works

Thank you for your service

This comment section is precisely the goldmine that I hoped it would be

I think a lot of people tend to externalize the consequences of murder as simply a matter of course. Like, a lot of people don't think of themselves as murderers, but do think that if push comes to shove, or if shit hits the fan, or if worse comes to worst, they'd be able to dig deep and find the strength within themselves to "do what needs to be done" and "protect their family" or whatever.

In this sense, murder is just "work." It's a means to an end, if an extreme one.

But, basically no one feels this way about molestation. I mean, how could you? There's no obvious connection between action and effect; the prompt says there is, but you just have to take that on faith. It's probably easier to just commit the murder, anyway, which means there's a degree of "indulgence" inherent to this that makes it feel much more gross. Plus, most people know this intuitively: we fix problems either by stopping them (murder, prison) or repairing them (therapy, support, love), and molestation is neither of those. Intuitively, it seems like the molestation would make things worse, actually.

So, in a rule-utilitarianism sense, I think people feel that murder is horrible, but permissible. Molestation is just horrible.

Also, regarding all of the above points, there's a virtue ethics angle to what each of those options might say about what kind of person you are, even if they both yielded the same outcome.

We need a quote maker bot for Lemmy.

Rather out of topic, but these one-word-repky people just spite me. Like, come on, I'm trying to be your friend, don't come with "hm"!

I may not properly understand quantum immortality but I suppose it is technically 'possible' that I might be schopenhauer, in some sense, so... uh ... yes, maybe?

Oh

Okay

K

Hm?

“[…] I molest baby Hitler to stop the holocaust [...]”

~gullible@sh.itjust.works

Is this supposed to be funny? you're just sharing horrible misogynist shit from a poorly socialised anti-social loser

What does it mean?

Yeah, that's 4chan. Greentext comes from 4chan, what's the issue?

Yes, laughing at bumbling chuds (oxymoron I know) is enjoyable for me. Pretty sure you have a few communities for that as well.

Slur for women

No, not even ironically.

There is only two choices molest or dont. I'm not out here picking molest as my preferred method. I dont think baby Hitler deserves it but if I knew the outcome and could prevent it I would and I'd probably kill myself after.