Yeah, i also get depressed thinking about how long it took for Rome to fall.

Some say, it's still falling to this day...

Are you counting the Eastern Empire? There's an argument that our view of “Rome” is obnoxiously Eurocentric. The economic lifeblood of the Empire was mostly outside of Western Europe, and lots of wheat from Egypt.

No shit, I came here to point this out. Like, wtf does the WESTERN Roman Empire part really have to do with anything? I want to see what kinds of Mechas the Byzantines and even various Caliphates could have eventually churned-out if their reigns hadn't ended as much as I begin to give a damn what various stages of Rome, specifically, would have done.

Same goes for Egypt, Ghenghis Khan and all of the African empires that time(and disinterest) has ground to presently un-known dust and rumor. Even random Greek city-states' offerings would at least be unique and not guided by OOP's/our misunderstandings about Rome's "super-marbled"/black-and-white-and-gold-and-red aesthetics.

Fuckers had "machine guns" in their day ... the miracle is that anyone else got a chance to show us something cool in the times since.

Not me, I'm with the barbarians

Yeah well the byzantines lasted a lot longer but they were corrupt as shit, those greek whores.

Uhhh, machine guns? Archimedes theorized a steam cannon, and a lot of other cool totally possible shit that was never built, 2nd century bc or so, though the Romans invaded and the sicilian greek city did not fully implement his ingenius ideas for the defense of the city state, he was teaching in class and a Roman soldier came in he ignored the soldier and kept teaching and the soldier stabbed him in the gut.

They also had greek fire in byzantium, they figured fractional distallation of oil that comes to the surface around the black sea. Flamethrowers from ships, crazy shit for the day. Muslims still wiped the floor with them crusaders helping, and or looting constantsinople on their way through.

Your source is bullshit. Sulla was a monster, like the us prez but younger.

Dude, read the article, but I used quotes for just that reason, that being the evidence we have is some evenly-spaced holes in some walls with flechettes lodged in some.

Where you got the idea I was just fellating the old empire from all that is beyond me, but at least I don't have to give a damn which part of "the Ayatolla appreciates your efforts!" offends you exactly in return...

Seriously, versus OOP, I'm here for the
A E S T H E T I C . . .
Can we set the Dick-measuring contests aside for like, a minute?

My source was one of many, and only makes the Empire's failure to endure look even more pathetic if taken at face-value, but you get all butt-hurt about it as you like, I guess.

Wow, using phrases like butt hurt makes me think fuck you I do not care what you think.

I did read the article until it discredited itself endorsing Cornelius Sulla, whom is not anything but a piece of fucking shit.

You are here by discredited

Dunno who that is, don't care. Again, there's plenty of other recent articles about it.

I can never discredit myself to the degree you have done yourself, attacking points and stances I never even came close to making or endorsing. Insincere, infantile and facetious from your first reply, and only escalating from there. Bye now.

seriously. who wants to be speaking Latin? gross.

Yeah, Latin is all weird!

Boo! Sorry bro but you suck.

Sutton Hoo mecha made with Ulfbehrt steel. Unstoppable.

It's a video game. Kill away.

One of my favorite things to see is when a random 2 tile snow island spawns a barbarian encampment and it gets left alone until late game and it starts spawning AT Crew units.

I'd go further and say the seeds of the Roman Republic's downfall was set during the second Punic war when so much wealth and territory was amassed and it mostly went to the top, follow up when the Gracchi brothers did their failed bid to change things, or the several genocides the republic did, such as the 3rd Punic war or what Julius Caesar did against the Gauls again concentration of wealth of power and eroding of any checks against generals seizing control.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

No, you see, he simply had no choice...

Maybe empires falling can be a good thing.

It's not too late... It'll never be too late...

It usually is.