"LLM-friendly" :/

There’s also Logseq. It’s got a little bit of a learning curve but can be a great outliner and notes app. https://github.com/logseq/logseq

Only works in chrome and currently doesn't have a self hosted version or something. I think it shouldn't be too hard to implement.

yup

yeah logseq is great, but does need a bit of upfront investment

I tried logseq for a while but I couldn’t get over the fact that all ones were bulletpoints.

I settled on obsidian with selfhosted live-sync and it’s been rock solid for a year now.

i want to get back to logseq but … i wonder how it will work with my obsidian lib; it’s just dirs and files. with links. mostly just todo lists by project and some code snippets for reference.

is logseq compatible?

I can't find cloud sync feature even tho they say it's supported.

Interesting alternative as a simpler version of Obsidian ... Shall try it out. Simple md files is good, and this should be quite fast as well !

I'm starting to feel like a silverbullet.md shill because I post it so often these days...

Logseq leverages centrally hosted databases while obsidian works directly from files and directory structures. There should be a way to import individual files but I'm not sure if it will parse your entire vault.

Nice, seems really legit, especially since it works offline. Thx for that.

I've been trying to find a decent WYSIWYG android markdown editor (that's not just a webview wrapper), but none exist yet. This should work in the time being.

gotcha. thanks! i kinda like the idea that the place is just a series of md files, in obsidian to be honest but will give logseq another look!

Logseq still supports plain .md files ("Logseq OG") in addition to the new DB backend., so a convoluted import isn't necessary.

Your life in plain .md files.

Why not just, you know, actual plain .md files and your directory navigator and text editor of choice (often the ones that that already come with your Linux distro)? Or code editor if you want them together? Don't forget the terminal if you want to go even simpler. Always worked for me, I don't even use the formatted view half the time because *this* already conveys the same information as this in my mind. Hell throw a git repo in there and you have better version control than full office suites.

I honestly think the fancy wrappers around Markdown files defeat the elegant minimalism of using Markdown in the first place. I've always found my favourite "feature" of Markdown is that you don't need to install anything.

What is better? For simple notes it is enough and easy to understand. For other stuff I use AsciiDoc, LaTeX or something else.

I find these kinds of projects are neat, but if I'm being honest, I tend to just keep plain markdown files as well. The only thing I find that's missing with that is searchability. Once you get enough files, it can get unwieldy. Although, I've been playing around with just using a local model lately as the interface. You can throw opencode at a folder with the files, and even a small model can find stuff fairly competently there.

How do you get a local model to search stuff on your local computer for you? I'd love this in an IDE to emulate the functionality of Copilot for simple issues!

Oh that's the magic of tools like opencode, you run it in a folder and it acts as a harness for the model where it can interact with the filesystem. You could do the same with an IDE as well, making your own agentic harness is actually pretty straight forward. So you could make a plugin that talks to, say, ollama https://ampcode.com/notes/how-to-build-an-agent

Thanks!

In what way?

Okay but Zimwiki already exists.

Looks interesting, but chrome only is a showstopper

Some people tried to get me into Zed as well, and that was sure not a fun experience seeing how heavily pro-AI it was. I literally ended up just returning to the built-in Zed.

Cause the whole point is that you have a fancy wrapper???

You're basically asking

Why bother with an IDE? Why not just code in Notepad with no wrappers around it?

@gwl @HiddenLayer555 I use vim with no wrappers around it. My wrappers are command lines is other screens.

Cool, but you're not the target audience of this

Using a browser is definitely a no go for me. Lots of people are asking, why not just use vim instead of obsidian? Linking is important, I've been meaning to try neorg, I'll get there eventually. To me writing the notes is secondary to finding, exploring, and reading the notes. I find vim is better writing things than exploring things, probably just a skill issue but I don't really care.

Zim Desktop Wiki is absolutely excellent

You can disable all AI stuff in Zed with a single disable_ai: true setting. Still an awesome editor without any of the AI.

1. That should be on by default.
2. It has no features that Xed doesn't have that I use and takes up more system resources (it's noticeably slower).
3. It's far more confusing in its design with the project-pane thing which keeps constantly closing between reboots, and it has no recent-files menu section, which I rely on a lot (and if there is a plugin for this, I shouldn't need a plugin for such a common feature).

I've made my decision for the time being. I am aware of Zed and can always change in the future should the need arise, but Kate frankly looked better, anyway.

I think you're mixing Zed and Kate in your comment and is kinda confusing hahaha

It's fine for input, but Logseq ".md" files are only suitable for import back into Logseq (at least if they have any links)

In the past I migrated my notes from Obsidian to Logseq. Both have a bit different approach, but basically the move was to modify dir/file.md to be dir__file.md

Personally I don't agree that MD is bad but I've seen some opinions that Org Mode is better

I find it much easier for notes because I can keep my hands on the keyboard and format as I go.

I do agree about the lack of standardization though.

Sorry, edited; I actually meant Xed, the stock text editor in Mint. It's proving to ve good enough when paired with Meld via Nemo Compare!

Sproingle is an open source alternative to mipple
it's literally on poob