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MattW03 lemmy.ca MattW03@lemmy.ca
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Syndication lemmy.today Syndication@lemmy.today
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#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

Lol who is even using chrome still?

Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily?

I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.

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SpaceNoodle lemmy.world SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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Lol who is even using chrome still? Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily? I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.

3.62 billion users as of March

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Doug piefed.social Doug@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-20
#4 · Quote Reply

Lol who is even using chrome still? Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily? I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.

They install it on my work laptop without my saying so. I uninstall it every time, and until they explicitly ask me to use it, I’m sticking with Firefox.

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Bluescluestoothpaste sh.itjust.works Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
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Lol who is even using chrome still? Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily? I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.

The people who are slightly less braindead than edge users lol

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Schwim Dandy piefed.zip schwim@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-06-15
#6 · Quote Reply

The people willingly using a Google browser get what they get. This is a shining example of personal accountability.

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Peereboominc piefed.social Peereboominc@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-10
#7 · Quote Reply

If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps.
So then what is left?

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Mac mander.xyz Mac@mander.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-14
#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

Damn, if only someone, anyone, had ever warned against using Chrome.

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A_Union_of_Kobolds lemmy.world A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-20
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If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?
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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble lemmy.dbzer0.com fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Lol who is even using chrome still? Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily? I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.

About 68% of the world according to this.

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gsdsam lemmy.dbzer0.com gsdsam@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-09
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https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/

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ChaoticNeutralCzech feddit.org ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-23
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If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?

Ever tried uploading an 8GB file to Copyparty on Firefox for Android? It just hangs (but so does the unofficial app). I needed to ask my sister to use Chrome :(

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Quetzalcutlass lemmy.world Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

But don't worry, the model isn't used for any browser features users actually use, so it's just Google wasting petabytes of bandwidth to service a fraction of a percent of its userbase.

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SaharaMaleikuhm feddit.org SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-23
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About 68% of the world according to this.

Which again confirms my assumption that most people are idiots.

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paul lemmy.org paul@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-02-24
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If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?

Vivaldi is a productivity dream. Unfortunately it's built on chromium so it's not a complete break but it absolutely leaves every other browser in the dust in terms of how good it is. One of its best features is the ability to limit how much ram and CPU the browser as a whole uses or just certain sites. The amount of features it has is insane. Page tiling is my favourite one

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infinitesunrise slrpnk.net infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
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If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?

I stay away from sites and services that don't work well on Firefox. Firefox complies with open web standards, if a site doesn't run well on Firefox it implies that the operator is doing something fucky that you'd probably not be OK with.

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Syndication lemmy.today Syndication@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-01-03
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About 68% of the world according to this.

Does that count people using programs that you can't control using chrome on the backend such as Steam? It wouldn't be installed at all on my system if it weren't for stuff such as that.

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Syndication lemmy.today Syndication@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-01-03
#18 · Quote Reply

3.62 billion users as of March

...God damnit.

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thenoirwolfess fedinsfw.app thenoirwolfess@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-02-28
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3.62 billion users as of March

Well, at least one of those users might be my Flaresolverr machine with a Chrome user-agent header

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infinitesunrise slrpnk.net infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
#20 · Quote Reply

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Brave is Chrome, stop suggesting that people use Chrome as an alternative to Chrome.

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infinitesunrise slrpnk.net infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
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Lol who is even using chrome still? Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily? I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.

It's the most popular browser by user base. It's today's Internet Explorer.

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Imgonnatrythis sh.itjust.works Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-23
#22 · Quote Reply

It's your laptop? You need to try not installing chrome on your own devices.

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Quacksalber sh.itjust.works Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-18
#23 · Quote Reply

If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?

You can report sites that are broken on Firefox: https://webcompat.com/issues/new

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VeryFrugal sh.itjust.works napkin2020@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-01-18
#24 · Quote Reply

Which again confirms my assumption that most people are idiots.

Some might call you an idiot for "not wearing the right clothes" or "not eating X".

Just because others don't have the same amount of interest about something, albeit having some would help, doesn't mean they're idiots.

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble lemmy.dbzer0.com fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-20
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Does that count people using programs that you can't control using chrome on the backend such as Steam? It wouldn't be installed at all on my system if it weren't for stuff such as that.

Electron identifies itself as electron in it's user agent so you could easily identify and separate it out.

Also I doubt most companies leave the user agent as the default, they probably change it for whatever version the app is.

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Chloé 🥕 lemmy.blahaj.zone carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-13
#26 · Quote Reply

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"tired of Crap? use Shit instead"

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Chloé 🥕 lemmy.blahaj.zone carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-13
#27 · Quote Reply

The people willingly using a Google browser get what they get. This is a shining example of personal accountability.

most people are not aware of google’s shenanigans, and even less are aware that there are better alternatives

why not help people discover these alternatives instead of being an asshole?

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ilovepiracy lemmy.dbzer0.com ilovepiracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-03-03
#28 · Quote Reply

If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?

Just use Zen Browser or LibreWolf and call it a day :D

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jtrek startrek.website jtrek@startrek.website
Joined: 2026-02-22
#29 · Quote Reply

If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?

Firefox has been fine. I've thought about switching to one of the cooler forks but I haven't gotten off my ass yet.

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#30 · Quote Reply

Why the fuck is anyone still using chrome? Or windows for that matter. If it’s a work computer, whatever, I get it, but get that shit off of your personal devices.

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choco_crispies lemmy.ml choco_crispies@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-06-06
#31 · Quote Reply

Can those posting here please mention their top alternative browsers for those engaging in this thread?

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Simulation6 sopuli.xyz Simulation6@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-29
#32 · Quote Reply

They called it weights.bin? That is trojan level of skullduggery.

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Zidane lemmy.ca Zidane@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-08-10
#33 · Quote Reply

Firefox has been fine. I've thought about switching to one of the cooler forks but I haven't gotten off my ass yet.

This is your push, DO IT!

Librewolf and Waterfox have been running just fine for me

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Zidane lemmy.ca Zidane@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-08-10
#34 · Quote Reply

Can those posting here please mention their top alternative browsers for those engaging in this thread?

Waterfox and Librewolf are good alternatives

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JoeBigelow lemmy.ca JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-06
#35 · Quote Reply

Why the fuck is anyone still using chrome? Or windows for that matter. If it’s a work computer, whatever, I get it, but get that shit off of your personal devices.

Because I'm lazy and sometimes want to play battlefield

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blargh513 sh.itjust.works blargh513@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#36 · Quote Reply

Waterfox and Librewolf are good alternatives

I know it is somehow the worst thing ever, but Firefox really is ok. Turn off some telemetry and it's not a big deal.

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MeowerMisfit817 lemmy.world MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-27
#37 · (edited) Quote Reply

Let's say I tried to show this to my brother in an attempt to make the boy degoogle and he went "Nah, I'm not a gigabite hoarder, they can have the 4 gigas."

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MeowerMisfit817 lemmy.world MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

most people are not aware of google’s shenanigans, and even less are aware that there are better alternatives why not help people discover these alternatives instead of being an asshole?

Most people refuse to use these alternatives. Atleast in my cases.

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bequirtle lemmy.world bequirtle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#39 · Quote Reply

I know it is somehow the worst thing ever, but Firefox really is ok. Turn off some telemetry and it's not a big deal.

That's kinda the point of waterfox, you just save time fiddling with the telemetry settings every time you install it :P

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ttyybb lemmy.world ttyybb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-15
#40 · Quote Reply

They called it weights.bin? That is trojan level of skullduggery.

Reminds me of when my brother was setting up anti-virus for a friend, I don't remember if it was the program or one of the folders to virus.bad

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linuxPIPEpower discuss.tchncs.de linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-11-21
#41 · Quote Reply

Vivaldi is a productivity dream. Unfortunately it's built on chromium so it's not a complete break but it absolutely leaves every other browser in the dust in terms of how good it is. One of its best features is the ability to limit how much ram and CPU the browser as a whole uses or just certain sites. The amount of features it has is insane. Page tiling is my favourite one

Limiting resources sounds cool. I wish I could at least determine why Firefox sometimes goes out of control eating everything. Setting a resource limit per page would be good too. Sometimes my whole computer is ground to a halt, but closing a single tab fixes it. Often not a page that is obviously doing much. Certain ecommerce sites are frequent culprits. Doing something in the background.

Firefox can tile two pages now: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/split-view/

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linuxPIPEpower discuss.tchncs.de linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-11-21
#42 · (edited) Quote Reply

The people willingly using a Google browser get what they get. This is a shining example of personal accountability.

People use the tools they have to get their tasks done. Not everyone wants to have the same weird hobbies we do.

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linuxPIPEpower discuss.tchncs.de linuxPIPEpower@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-11-21
#43 · Quote Reply

Lol who is even using chrome still? Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily? I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.

How many Lemmy users are on chrome.

Any admins have stats?

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#44 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why the fuck is anyone still using chrome? Or windows for that matter. If it’s a work computer, whatever, I get it, but get that shit off of your personal devices.

To be fair, some sites/things don’t work with Firefox, and keeping up with Chromium derivatives is a difficult task.

Hence most default to Brave. They got the SEO. They got the marketing money and socials hype.

You have to dig deep into the internet to find Helium, Vivaldi, Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium, or whatever the fork de jure is. And that’s if you miss all the scamware.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#45 · Quote Reply

Can those posting here please mention their top alternative browsers for those engaging in this thread?

Helium.

Comes with full (not lite) UBlock, but Chromium based. It’s excellent.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

About 68% of the world according to this.

It’s even a vast majority in China.

That’s a little surprising.

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Syndication lemmy.today Syndication@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-01-03
#47 · Quote Reply

Electron identifies itself as electron in it's user agent so you could easily identify and separate it out. Also I doubt most companies leave the user agent as the default, they probably change it for whatever version the app is.

Ah that makes sense, thanks for the info!

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jtrek startrek.website jtrek@startrek.website
Joined: 2026-02-22
#48 · Quote Reply

This is your push, DO IT! Librewolf and Waterfox have been running just fine for me

Do you use either of them on android? The syncing between android and desktop is nice in vanilla Firefox

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-12
#49 · Quote Reply

https://librewolf.net/

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HeHoXa lemmy.zip HeHoXa@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-04-08
#50 · Quote Reply

They install it on my work laptop without my saying so. I uninstall it every time, and until they explicitly ask me to use it, I’m sticking with Firefox.

Ayy what's up twin.

"Oh our portals are only certified for Chrome. Firefox won't work."

I beg to differ.

Chrome's last genuine use died Aug 2024 when Puppeteer started supporting Firefox.

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Soapbox lemmy.zip Soapbox@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#51 · Quote Reply

Vivaldi is a productivity dream. Unfortunately it's built on chromium so it's not a complete break but it absolutely leaves every other browser in the dust in terms of how good it is. One of its best features is the ability to limit how much ram and CPU the browser as a whole uses or just certain sites. The amount of features it has is insane. Page tiling is my favourite one

I use Zen as my primary browser. Vivaldi is my chromium backup for when something isn't playing nice with Firefox, and for installing PWAs. Vivaldi is great. I used it for years before Zen came along.

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