cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/4988536

Nu trek same as the old trek ( good!)

Hmm, who is the disabled crewmember the greentext is referring to in TNG?

The most obvious answer is Geordi La Forge, but I am sure there are more

And I cannot remember a specific example of this, but I seem to remember it being implied at some point that Starfleet is also full of invisible disabilities. That future assistive devices are just so efficient and inconspicuous that you usually can't even tell when someone has lost their natural sense of hearing or something because they are able to conduct their job normally thanks to a tiny implant. Geordi just has his VISOR because the writers gave this main character a significant disability to drive the plot and sell toys/props.

Captain Picard was bald

💀

There were several wom*n on board (sorry to use a slur.)

Didn't let that stop him getting that space tang like Kirk tho

No goofier haircut than cutting them all down to the skin

Riker, alas, started off beardless

once he was bearded, or maybe a back injury too idk, he started taking seats and side kicking ass.

Klingons got retconned in motion picture. Can't blame TNG for that.

so Guinan was a reTard.

I knew it!

The barrel incident.

yes, something like that

Shrek voice: “I’m gunna eeeat youuu!”

Whole new spine

It was the space herpies. Dude couldn't keep it in his pants.

I would absolutely despise this person irl

woke

By the standards of the 1990s, sure.

lame attempts at fanservice

Not really. McCoy made a very brief appearance in the pilot. But, it wasn't until season 5 where Spock would show up in a pretty major role. Scotty showed up a season later. I wouldn't say there was much fan service at all, given that the TOS crew was mostly all around and available.

giRrL pOwErRr

Hardly. Troi was the most important female character, but she was less important than the Captain, Number One, Data, Chief Engineer Laforge and of course Miles. It was a bit unusual to have a female head of security, but she didn't even last 1 season before being replaced by Worf.

pushes gay agenda

Was there a single gay member of the Enterprise? The only hint at homosexuality I can remember is Riker going for an androgynous person. They even had to make it clear that Tasha Yar wasn't a lesbian by having her fuck a sex robot.

handwavy magic "science"

It's Star Trek...

retconned Klingons to look super weird

The brow ridges showed up in 1979's Star Trek, the Motion Picture. They were a major departure from the TOS design. TNG just kept that design

disabled crew members

Geordi? I suppose. He definitely makes it seem like he's "differently abled" though, because his visor lets him see things that other people can't. But, I suppose they do have some occasions when someone takes his visor and he's completely blind.

The only other one I can think of is Barclay, but that's more neurodivergence than a disability.

unrelentingly woke

You already said that

captain with a goofy hairstyle

Sure

black people everywhere

Laforge and... Guinan? Sure, the actor playing Worf is black, but it's hard to tell anything under all that makeup. There were remarkably few black characters in TNG, if you think about it.

politics politics politics

Yes, it's Star Trek.

Dr crusher also kisses a woman in that one episode that introduced the trill.

Honestly, I’m scared to remind people now. Lest Paramount “revise” TOS and TNG.

You could maybe argue that there was a hint at a pro-Trans story there. She falls for a guy, but the person she thinks she fell for isn't actually the person she thought, and in the end it's a girl. But, she decides not to continue the relationship after that final twist. And it's also one episode in a very long series and Crusher is clearly straight... even if the Trill is maybe bisexual, or maybe pansexual.

Where’s the Nu trek equivalent to Code of Honour?

Captain with a goofy hairstyle???

I mean, they're trying to make a joke but it kinda works better with, idk, Voyager or something (well, maybe gay or black comment but certainly more diverse and highlighting stuff like cultural diversity).

That said, I've seen this exact joke about wokeness already but with TOS, so eh.

Sure, they're trying to make a joke. But, when this kind of thing works as a joke you can go through each item in the list and say "hmm, yeah, I guess" even if as a whole it's clearly not true.

In this case, some of the list items just make no sense, like "black people everywhere" or "pushes gay agenda". If they'd stuck with "woke" and "a captain that Trekkies hated" it could have worked.

Riker has an issue where he can’t sit down like a sentient being.

Boom!

Boccoli

she decides not to continue the relationship

Pretty handwavy when the context is a literal conversion therapy analogue.

That was a really good episode. Funny because barrels, but really cut into the heart of personal agency and what it means to people.

They even had to make it clear that Tasha Yar wasn't a lesbian by having her fuck a sex robot.

Hey, not a sex robot, a robot capable of sex.... there's a difference....I think 🤔

I'm glad someone caught that. :)

LOL ... he isn't wrong.

Also, all the people commenting here that dont get it and didn't read the post.

I'm glad you're glad 🥰

Retconning Data as a Noonien Soong sex-bot would be wild

Brow ridge change came up in the Tribble episode of DS9 too

He can sit, it's just his way of getting to that point which is strange

That was the episode that really made me fucking hate Crusher, both for her conduct and her attitude afterwards.

I hate nu-trek because beyond the obvious shitty writing, lack of an ensemble cast and true standalone episodes, extremely lame and cheap special effects and just the way it is made (legacy series fitting into a canon rather than actual new events i.e. ENT) - its just very apolitical, bland and not very woke at all. TNG, DS9, ENT - all had real hard hitting stuff to say, stuff thats more relevant now than ever, and is always timeless.

Disco has a nonbinary person just kinda be there, such enthralling commentary, wow! It's almost a self-parody y'know. Picard has the romulan refugee thing be kinda swept under the rug in favour of the ME3 synthetics vs organics vs giant space octopus doohickey plot, and then the 2nd season invents a new alternate universe that doesn't actually seem much different from the future picard itself portrays in the first season.

There will never he anything quite like 'Far Beyond The Stars' in Trek again, sadly. Nor will there be a 'Who Mourns for Morn' for that matter, now we mourn for trek.

That's okay by me though, All Good Things and all that, and especially so because For All Mankind took up the actual woke space sci-fi mantle, unsurprisingly so since it's made by Trek and Expanse alumni like RDM, Menosky, Okudas, Shankar etc.

#BringBackPulaski

I think that was the first time someone actually acknowledged the change. And then there was a short arc on Enterprise providing an in-universe reason for that change.

Burnham's long hair was very impractical for Starfleet. It should have been tied up like all other long hair in older Star Trek.

Never actually watched Enterprise (yet) so don't know the cannon reason they gave but re: first mentioned, yes it was, and I think Worf, when asked why Klingons looked different said something akin to "we don't talk about it".

That and the only time that something remotely interesting happens is at the start or end of an episode.

It's so that you start watching the episode and then at the end want to watch the next one and it disgusts me because it feels so manipulative.

This is not a soap opera, it's supposed to be star trek.

O'Brien: What happened? Some kind genetic engineering?

Doctor Bashir: A viral mutation?

The writers of Enterprise watched this episode and said, "yes."

Even as a joke, it felt wrong to refer to Data that way. XD