Same here, I might end up with a check in my hands like once per year, and so I have to make like one single trip to my credit union every single year or whatever to deposit that check, and that's it.

I believe specifically designed to take advantage of security hardware only available on Pixels. Don't think it has to do with being Google fanboys necessarily.

Nfc payments keep me chained. I guess i can get a second phone just for setting up a watch, but i don't want a watch. So i live by not using the default launcher and a vpn. I'm working to change my email provider slowly

Blame literally every other hardware manufacturer for not implementing encryption enclaves correctly.

Have never looked back since i switched to gos... just buy a refurbed pixel to avoid giving big G ya monry.

Remember, though, in less than 200 days google kills all "sideloading." It seriously fucks with gos, and they have hinted they will eventually disable flashing custom roms

Sounds shady

We will probably get GTA VI first.

beastmode

my condolences are you euro?

I was running LineageOS, but my screen broke so I just bought a trap phone with cash from Wal-Mart.

I initially considered that, but in the end I just bit the bullet and got one 2 weeks ago.

My thought is with the current trend of PC hardware prices, I didn't want to wait to see how it affects phone prices.

At the same time, I do not know if the collaborative phone between GOS and the manufacturer will be something I like. The current Pixel 10 phone is already bigger than what I ultimately prefer and I think it's more probable the new phone will be phablet sized.

Fairphone 6. Google can suck it. As long as people support the company, competition is coming. Hopefully, they have the resources to keep on going after Google shits on everyone.

I might make a post about banks that don't require apps or collect data. Mine is stupid about it if you don't opt out. I'm so sick of every business normalizing this.

I didn't know they rolled like that, good to know for the purposes of learning about banking & surveillance systems. haven't seen it mentioned on GOS forums

It depends on your bank. I have brazilian banks that work perfectly well with tap, they just don't rely on Google Wallet.

This betrays a deep level of tech illiteracy

older pixels have fewer years of GOS dev support remaining. recommend 7+

nobody should discount hardware-level hacks either. ultimately GOS is the only way to get decent software on mobile without leaving it exposed in the event of petty theft. people implying it will be a serious roadblock to imperialist state-level actors are naive or even suspicious to me

Other than security differences, is the interface just like on a Pixel? Can I still force dark mode on uncooperative apps like on Pixel? Is there still notification history? Screenshots/select on overview?

Recently had a similar issue with Via, the app for keyboards. Basically, there was an issue with chrome talking to the hardware...Except some lifesaver recommended plugging my keyboard directly into my machine, bypassing the docking station (the thing causing me issues) and fixing my problem. So I've technically still never had a driver issue, only a shitty docking station experience.

Gah. I was really torn between replacing my broken Pixel with another Pixel+GOS or buying a Fairphone 6...

I ended up going with the Fairphone 6 cuz I want to support other players. I'm not completely off Google, but I keep moving away where I can.

I wish Fairphone and Graphene were friends... :/

My bank requires using a card reader for ID if you use a web browser. It can be done but it means carrying three physical things (phone, bank card, bank card reader) instead of one (phone).

Graphene coming with OEM phones other than pixel so it will solve those issues

If fairphone had the hardware support and kept up with modern android versions, GOS would have no beef.

Meh, there are better phones that actually support an open source community.

Fairphone with e/os has been working pretty awesome for me.

will be phablet sized

Already is... but it is what it is. Welcome to gOS, we don't have cookies ;}

So it is a minor inconvenience?

Also it would be an option to switch banks.

Aren't there things GrapheneOS can't do though like banking, wallet, and bus pass? I hope im misinformed because I'd love to switch to an alt OS.

Just some tips for new users: Just install it and dont be afraid to try things out (Google Store, profiles, Aurora…etc). Oh and dont make it tooooo complicate with many profiles and private space.

I recommend a clean main profile (i.e. no Google Play etc) and a corrupt profile, install your stuff then find FOSS replacements for main. Over time you naturally decouple from Google, but it's there if you need it.

FWIW gOS has a duress PIN baked in. Doesn't stop the rubber hose but at least you can be smug ;}

Utter hogwash. If I don't have a device, a hacker can't gain access to it. That's security through obscurity. Make things stronger, not evasive

My point is that there is an actual difference. It's not just a repackaged web app, and has actual drawbacks.

My personal plan is to move as much of my day to day stuff to a Mecha Comet, and also carry my Fairphone running Android for whatever proprietary crap that the world wants me to run. It's two devices, but hopefully will minimize exposure to big tech.

I'd fucking switch banks lmao, that's atrocious.

I'm sorry dawg.

I'm using Graphene for around a 6 months now on a Pixel 9, with F-Droid being the primary app source. I quite like it.

That's precisely my biggest problem with GrapheneOS

TL;DR The above commenter is spreading FUD. GOS will work fine and allow sideloading.

Stop spreading FUD. Google kills sideloading on Google certified ROMs. Being Google certified doesn't mean you have more features than ROMs which aren't certified. Only Google certified ROMs lose the ability to sideload and have to adhere to all Google Play policies. Meaning GOS loses its certified status but doesn't lose the ability to sideload. The only way in which GOS might be coerced to disable sideloading is if Google pushes these changes upstream to the AOSP and even then forking is always an option. Also when has Google ever hinted at disabling flashing custom ROMs? It might be right down their alley but I wouldn't make such claims without citing sources.

Just as a side note: Android ≠ AOSP. This is relevant as many people misunderstand the news they read. When Google changes Android (Google's proprietary AOSP "distro") it doesn't necessarily mean that changes are coming to the AOSP or GOS which is also an AOSP "distro".

Reading through this forum thread is recommended.

Nice idea in theory . . . but here in the UK, increasingly customers are being left with little other choice. Between banking apps using push messages to verify credit/debit card transactions, closing of physical branches and requiring authentication via the app to log into the website . . . not using their app is becoming more and more difficult every day.

Nice idea in theory . . . but here in the UK, increasingly customers are being left with little other choice. Between banking apps using push messages to verify credit/debit card transactions, closing of physical branches and requiring authentication via the app to log into the website . . . not using their app is becoming more and more difficult every day.

Did the same. I don't want a Pixel (especially with the 10s being so AI focused) and I'm not convinced Google wouldn't have a backdoor in their phones anyway. So the choice was wait and see what Graphene's new phone is gonna be or grab a Fairphone now.

GrapheneOS is actually better for banking than the other alternative OS's because you can run Google Play Services (which some banking apps require) sandboxed and only allow it to interact with the apps you want it to. That said, I'm still going for e/os on a fairphone right now.

Unfortunately though they certainly do not all work, and some work only partially. Depends on the bank, the app and the feature. Wallet services are completely unavailable.

Still using Windows 10 Mobile.

Maybe even Star Citizen!

Ah well, I just do banking in my browser anyway.

have you needed to use microG for any apps? is it a sufficient replacement for google play?

I use my USAA banking app, my stock app with Charles-Schwabb, and even Bitwarden with biometrics on GOS. It may have been limiting before, but not anymore. They have a sandboxed Google Play integrity whatever, too, do you can turn that shit on for select apps and it alerts you when an app is calling it.

Aurora Store also has the Play Store apps with reduced bloat. I've been using GOS on my Pixel 7 since late last year. It has a slight learning curve, but lots of info out there for how and what to change in settings for different apps and permissions. Definitely don't regret my install!