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Rekall Incorporated piefed.social Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social
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It could be one way to make your old PC play nicely with a high-end GPU.

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Rekall Incorporated Moderator Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social
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The mid 90s to early 2000s gen on gen gains are rolling over in their grave.

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Bluegrass_Addict lemmy.ca Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
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processor isn't my concern... it's the ram and hard drives.

I went to quote someone today for a 3.8Tb SAS drive... in sept, the cost was 3k per drive... it's near 19,000 now lol

the ram previously was 225 for 32gb stick... they want 10,000.. lol fuck that noise.

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
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The mid 90s to early 2000s gen on gen gains are rolling over in their grave.

The Ryzen R7 5800X3D is 4 years old.
The Ryzen R7 1800X was the first Ryzen released in March 2017.
So even the original Ryzen is only 9 years and 2 months old.

Yes in the 90's developments were faster for many reasons, mostly that the newer production processes were way cheaper, so you could continue to make new chips that were both faster and cheaper to make.
But Ryzen did put some life back into the PC again, after a decade of Intel idling along, because they were a monopoly on the PC.
While smartphones from 2007 to 2016 went from single core 32 bit, to deca core 64 bit. The desktop CPU went from 2 core to 4 core!! And Ryzen was introduced in 2017 with 8 cores, and it took Intel years to just get to 6 cores for a standard desktop CPU.
Also at the introduction of Ryzen it was an 8 core desktop CPU at $500, that could compete with an Intel workstation CPU that cost $1800,-

I think that while your post is technically true, it lacks perspective of what Ryzen did for the desktop.

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
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Just to be clear, it’s Ryzen that has 10 year anniversary. And it’s actually not until March 2027.
It is only 9 years and 2 months since the first Ryzen CPU was released.

Ryzen R7 5800 X3D came out Apr 20, 2022. So that particular CPU is “only” 4 years old.

According to the article, the anniversary edition is identical to the original, so no improved production process or anything.

Still impressive that a 4 year old CPU is still relevant today. I run my games fine on a standard R7 5800X.

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
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processor isn't my concern... it's the ram and hard drives. I went to quote someone today for a 3.8Tb SAS drive... in sept, the cost was 3k per drive... it's near 19,000 now lol the ram previously was 225 for 32gb stick... they want 10,000.. lol fuck that noise.

IDK about that, you can get 32 GB DDR4 for $200 here.
If the CPU isn't the issue, why then go with DDR5?

Except of course you can get 32 GB sticks for less than $500, I have no idea how you get to 10000?? That's 20 times the price here (Denmark) ?!

Also 4 TB hard drive is less than $200? Do you really need special server drives? I thought that was completely obsolete already a decade ago.

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tal lemmy.today tal@lemmy.today
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processor isn't my concern... it's the ram and hard drives. I went to quote someone today for a 3.8Tb SAS drive... in sept, the cost was 3k per drive... it's near 19,000 now lol the ram previously was 225 for 32gb stick... they want 10,000.. lol fuck that noise.

it’s the ram

The reason this CPU is interesting is because it can use DDR4 DIMMs.

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble lemmy.dbzer0.com fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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processor isn't my concern... it's the ram and hard drives. I went to quote someone today for a 3.8Tb SAS drive... in sept, the cost was 3k per drive... it's near 19,000 now lol the ram previously was 225 for 32gb stick... they want 10,000.. lol fuck that noise.

Plenty of people have "enough" DDR4, but want more CPU performance. This is perfect for that.

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Bluegrass_Addict lemmy.ca Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
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IDK about that, you can get 32 GB DDR4 for $200 here. If the CPU isn't the issue, why then go with DDR5? Except of course you can get 32 GB sticks for less than $500, I have no idea how you get to 10000?? That's 20 times the price here (Denmark) ?! Also 4 TB hard drive is less than $200? Do you really need special server drives? I thought that was completely obsolete already a decade ago.

server components sadly. not consumer grade.

the server also requires the SAS drives to expand their current array with more storage

my own personal stuff yeah, your prices are inline with what I buy too but this is not consumer grade stuff

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Bluegrass_Addict lemmy.ca Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
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it’s the ram The reason this CPU is interesting is because it can use DDR4 DIMMs.

hmm.. Ty... I need to actually order a new mobo for my older failed desktop

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Buffalox lemmy.world Buffalox@lemmy.world
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server components sadly. not consumer grade. the server also requires the SAS drives to expand their current array with more storage my own personal stuff yeah, your prices are inline with what I buy too but this is not consumer grade stuff

Well then I don't care so much, because that's a cooperate problem. Do like the major information companies do, and use standard hardware and build it with redundancies, instead of the overpriced server shit.

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k0e3 lemmy.ca k0e3@lemmy.ca
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processor isn't my concern... it's the ram and hard drives. I went to quote someone today for a 3.8Tb SAS drive... in sept, the cost was 3k per drive... it's near 19,000 now lol the ram previously was 225 for 32gb stick... they want 10,000.. lol fuck that noise.

Probably a dumb question, but what currency is that? US$10,000 for a 32GB stick of ram is just bonkers.

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fox2263 lemmy.world fox2263@lemmy.world
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Is it special in anyway or just stamped “anniversary edition”? Like have they die shrunk it or increased its clock or anything?

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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Is it special in anyway or just stamped “anniversary edition”? Like have they die shrunk it or increased its clock or anything?

anyway

any way

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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it’s the ram The reason this CPU is interesting is because it can use DDR4 DIMMs.

I can confirm those have merely tripled in price in 16 months. A bargain!

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AnUnusualRelic lemmy.world AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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Is it special in anyway or just stamped “anniversary edition”? Like have they die shrunk it or increased its clock or anything?

Maybe it has little candles on it?

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Bluegrass_Addict lemmy.ca Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
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Probably a dumb question, but what currency is that? US$10,000 for a 32GB stick of ram is just bonkers.

CAD.

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Bluegrass_Addict lemmy.ca Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
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Well then I don't care so much, because that's a cooperate problem. Do like the major information companies do, and use standard hardware and build it with redundancies, instead of the overpriced server shit.

lol didn't ask if you cared tbh. also no thanks, I'll pick reliable hardware that costs more, over consumer stuff for my clients business needs. their business depends on uptime, not dealing with consumer warranties and replacing parts every year or two because they were used for more then just Vidya games

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tal lemmy.today tal@lemmy.today
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#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

I can confirm those have merely tripled in price in 16 months. A bargain!

I mean, it's doesn't make the memory shortage entirely vanish, but if you're a CPU manufacturer and the question is "what can you do in the next two years in terms of your CPU products to adapt to this", selling a relatively-high-performance CPU that can (a) use older-spec memory, of which there is an existing supply in PCs that can be reused and (b) has a lot of on-CPU-die cache to help mitigate the performance limitations of that memory, that's probably about the most you can reasonably do.

EDIT: I can imagine other things that a CPU vendor could also do, like maybe supporting "tiers" of on-motherboard memory for future motherboard specs for your CPU, where OSes could be aware of high-speed memory and low-speed memory and access both, but stuff like that isn't going to be done inside in the two-year (well, now maybe year-and-a-half remaining) timeframe where we expect the RAM shortage to be really significant.

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