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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-01-25
#102 · Quote Reply

Isn't Matrix open source? And wouldn't hosting your own instance unfederated resolve that concern?

Yes Matrix is open source so technically if there's a backdoor people should be able to find it. But the dev team behind Matrix sketches me out so I wouldn't be surprised if they sneakily hid a backdoor.

Personally I wouldn't trust "privacy' software developed by an Israeli company which has made spyware in the past. It's not direct evidence that Matrix has backdoors, but sometimes stuff is just sketch.

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super_user_do feddit.it super_user_do@feddit.it
Joined: 2022-11-28
#103 · Quote Reply

We switching to Fluxer

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AlHouthi4President lemmy.ml AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-18
#104 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Zanathos lemmy.world Zanathos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-21
#105 · Quote Reply

Yes Matrix is open source so technically if there's a backdoor people should be able to find it. But the dev team behind Matrix sketches me out so I wouldn't be surprised if they sneakily hid a backdoor. Personally I wouldn't trust "privacy' software developed by an Israeli company which has made spyware in the past. It's not direct evidence that Matrix has backdoors, but sometimes stuff is jus...

Good points. I have been trying to spin up my own instance because the alternatives are still not up to snuff but Matrix seemed a decent alternative if self hosted.

I just saw another article today about XMPP which was going to be my last ditch effort, but that will be my next foray it seems!

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64bithero lemmy.world 64bithero@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-27
#106 · Quote Reply

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Not sure I follow what you mean by temperature? Socially I’d say it’s all over the place. You can make channels for whatever you like. To be transparent the only feature to me missing is streaming / screen share. And the mobile apps need a lot of work ..

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sakuraba lemmy.ml sakuraba@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-07
#107 · (edited) Quote Reply

Item #9 on the roadmap

thanks. it's really weird that they don't make clear if this monetization feature will be limited to their main instance or will be available to selfhosters too

would this add a limitation of some kind, would every selfhoster be required to add this feature do be federated?

i'm gonna keep looking at XMPP at the moment

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footprint lemmy.world footprint@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#108 · Quote Reply

I have deployed LiveKit for my homeserver yesterday. I'm not gonna lie, it does involve a bit of work, but once it's running it is very seamless.

This is what I’ve ended up doing, too. Now the only issue is that we’re missing noise suppression. The boys are not passing this year’s emissions testing.

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gwl [he/him] lemmy.blahaj.zone gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-10-16
#109 · Quote Reply

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The app looks and runs like a university project.

By which I mean badly

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64bithero lemmy.world 64bithero@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-27
#110 · Quote Reply

Found another “new” discord clone called Kloak. Slightly curious as they claim to use purely a username and key to identify you and nothing else.

Some of the site seems AI generated and the project is entirely closed source. I am curious but I have my reservations even trying it.

Right now it appears registration is closed which is also odd.

https://kloak.app/

Might be worth keeping an eye on. But it might be worth entirely avoiding

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GaumBeist lemmy.ml GaumBeist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-01-28
#111 · Quote Reply

Fluxer wants to have a 'monetization' to give payouts to 'creators.' Hard pass. My wife and I have been using Stoat and it's been mostly fine, but they're already implementing age verification. Stoat being based in UK makes me nervous as their laws are ridiculous. Devs claim that they are going to try to only apply draconian things when necessary but I have my doubts.

Stoat and it’s been mostly fine, but they’re already implementing age verification.

Can you elaborate on this? I can't find anything about it online

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camelwize piefed.social camelwize@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-12
#112 · Quote Reply

Read the privacy policies too. I can't remember which one I was reading yesterday but it read like they were going to monitor every word I said... All the while saying they are privacy advocates and based in Europe

I seem to recall the one for Root was particularly bad, can't remember for the others.

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Kristell herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol
Joined: 2026-01-13
#113 · Quote Reply

Check out the Movim client for XMPP, it allows it perform group video/audio calls, and even has screen sharing! (though you need to use a chromium browser to share the audio of an application for now). And the dev is currently working on implementing Discord-style channels with collections of rooms.

Oh, hot shit! I know about Movim, it's just not my main client (notifications are finnicky, and offline messages don't seem to work right for me?), but them adding discord-style rooms is great!

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