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LadyButterfly she/her piefed.blahaj.zone LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone
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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
#2 · Quote Reply

When a man lets a woman go to work and the man stays home.

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Kayday lemmy.world Kayday@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-22
#3 · Quote Reply

Bad chivalry: putting women on a pedestal, and preventing them from getting down.
Good chivalry: intentionally leaving room for women to share a space equally

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velma lemmy.blahaj.zone velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-19
#4 · Quote Reply

Being treated with respect.

Being given the benefit of the doubt.

Being given the space to thrive and live the way I desire.

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PunnyName lemmy.world PunnyName@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#5 · Quote Reply

When a man lets a woman go to work and the man stays home.

Lets?

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
#6 · Quote Reply

Lets?

Choose a word that I can use instead of lets that has a similar meaning but doesn’t go down the direction you’re trying to take this, because that wasn’t the intention.

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velma lemmy.blahaj.zone velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-19
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

Choose a word that I can use instead of lets that has a similar meaning but doesn’t go down the direction you’re trying to take this, because that wasn’t the intention.

I understood what you originally meant, for what it's worth.

Maybe "When a man is comfortable enough in his own masculinity that his partner being the breadwinner isn't an issue." or something like that.

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
#8 · Quote Reply

I understood what you originally meant, for what it's worth. Maybe "When a man is comfortable enough in his own masculinity that his partner being the breadwinner isn't an issue." or something like that.

How can we do it without subtle jabs to masculinity? Everyone should be equal

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velma lemmy.blahaj.zone velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-19
#9 · Quote Reply

How can we do it without subtle jabs to masculinity? Everyone should be equal

Oh I didn't think that was a jab at masculinity. Masculinity can be positive and men and women can express masculinity.

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
#10 · Quote Reply

Oh I didn't think that was a jab at masculinity. Masculinity can be positive and men and women can express masculinity.

Well, using the word chivalry in 2026 is pretty sexist imo. The definition is more knightly in origin, with another example being men courteous to women. Clearly from another time. I think we can just retire this word—o😚OP seems to be asking for a semantic shift to an already established word. 🤷‍♂️

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velma lemmy.blahaj.zone velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-19
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Well, using the word chivalry in 2026 is pretty sexist imo. The definition is more knightly in origin, with another example being men courteous to women. Clearly from another time. I think we can just retire this word—o😚OP seems to be asking for a semantic shift to an already established word. 🤷‍♂️

Absolutely agree on the word chivalry being outdated.

Word evolution and etymology are always interesting topics to banter about. Chivalry clearly has a different modern definition than it's origins. Maybe we could help redefine it further? Or come up with another way of expressing something similar.

Like, I think women can be chivalrous. Does that inherently balance the definition or is chivalry always considered a male trait?

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
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Absolutely agree on the word chivalry being outdated. Word evolution and etymology are always interesting topics to banter about. Chivalry clearly has a different modern definition than it's origins. Maybe we could help redefine it further? Or come up with another way of expressing something similar. Like, I think women can be chivalrous. Does that inherently balance the definition or is chival...

I don’t think the modern definition is clear at all. Which is why we are here.

I think the word should be decommissioned, as well as the concept of any gender treating any other gender differently than they would treat their own.

If someone asks, “how should a man treat a woman?” The answer should always be, “like a man would treat a man.”

Maybe I’m just too damn chivalrous. ;)

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velma lemmy.blahaj.zone velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-19
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don’t think the modern definition is clear at all. Which is why we are here. I think the word should be decommissioned, as well as the concept of any gender treating any other gender differently than they would treat their own. If someone asks, “how should a man treat a woman?” The answer should always be, “like a man would treat a man.” Maybe I’m just too damn chivalrous. ;)

I just said the modern version is clearly different, not that the definition itself is clear.

....Do you think I'm arguing with you?

I don't agree that being chivalrous inherently means treating different genders differently.

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
#14 · Quote Reply

I just said the modern version is clearly different, not that the definition itself is clear. ....Do you think I'm arguing with you? I don't agree that being chivalrous inherently means treating different genders differently.

I didn’t mean to sound as if this was an argument.

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velma lemmy.blahaj.zone velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-19
#15 · Quote Reply

I didn’t mean to sound as if this was an argument.

Ok cool, just checking. It's hard to read tone in text and sometimes I misjudge it!

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𝙈𝙞𝙖 quokk.au Quokka@quokk.au
Joined: 2025-06-09
#16 · Quote Reply

A concept I don’t value.

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LadyButterfly she/her Moderator LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-10
#17 · Quote Reply

Being treated with respect. Being given the benefit of the doubt. Being given the space to thrive and live the way I desire.

The last sentence says it all for me

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Taleya aussie.zone Taleya@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-21
#18 · Quote Reply

Putting in the effort to serve others in various ways when you don't have to.

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ZDL lazysoci.al ZDL@lazysoci.al
Joined: 2025-06-06
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How can we do it without subtle jabs to masculinity? Everyone should be equal

This weird over-sensitivity made me suspicious. So I looked. And I unsurprisingly found.

I’m a tall male, so if you aren’t you might enjoy a lower dose more.

Dude. It's literally two words. Which one did you not understand?

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
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This weird over-sensitivity made me suspicious. So I looked. And I unsurprisingly found. I’m a tall male, so if you aren’t you might enjoy a lower dose more. Dude. It's literally two words. Which one did you not understand?

I don’t understand. I was prescribed 5mg at first, and it was less effective than 10mg. I felt it was not working. I’m just sharing my experience. Being that I’m a a larger individual, it takes a higher dose of most things. They might start lower for them—but I don’t want them to write it off if they aren’t experiencing positive results immediately.

I’m curious what wild imaginary journey you are on that brought you to harassing me. What completely fabricated reality are you experiencing that you feel your comments are acceptable?

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ZDL lazysoci.al ZDL@lazysoci.al
Joined: 2025-06-06
#21 · Quote Reply

I don’t understand. I was prescribed 5mg at first, and it was less effective than 10mg. I felt it was not working. I’m just sharing my experience. Being that I’m a a larger individual, it takes a higher dose of most things. They might start lower for them—but I don’t want them to write it off if they aren’t experiencing positive results immediately. I’m curious what wild imaginary journey you a...

You are literally posting in a group whose very first fucking rule is "women only". And now having had this pointed out to you, instead of shutting the fuck up, you persist in posting against the rules.

Telling you you're in breach of the rules of the group you're posting to is not "harassment". It's telling you you're breaking the rules. You utter berk.

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
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You are literally posting in a group whose very first fucking rule is "women only". And now having had this pointed out to you, instead of shutting the fuck up, you persist in posting against the rules. Telling you you're in breach of the rules of the group you're posting to is not "harassment". It's telling you you're breaking the rules. You utter berk.

Huh, sidebar isn’t my thing on mobile. I just go down the list. I’ll block the community just for you.

My apologies to everyone except this person, who is being a—dick. ;)

Goodnight!

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ZDL lazysoci.al ZDL@lazysoci.al
Joined: 2025-06-06
#23 · Quote Reply

Huh, sidebar isn’t my thing on mobile. I just go down the list. I’ll block the community just for you. My apologies to everyone except this person, who is being a—dick. ;) Goodnight!

And still, after you see the rules yourself, in your client, you post to a group in which the rules specifically say you SHOULD NOT POST.

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melsaskca lemmy.ca melsaskca@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-09
#24 · Quote Reply

Kind of like honour. Standing up for those who cannot stand up for themselves. Seeing situations where help or assistance is needed and doing so. Traditionally it's Knight's helping damsels, but we're in a different world and people of all stripes sometimes need a bit of a hand to set them upright again. Caring and empathy are requirements for this type of behaviour.

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kibblebits quokk.au kibblebits@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-05-19
#25 · Quote Reply

And still, after you see the rules yourself, in your client, you post to a group in which the rules specifically say you SHOULD NOT POST.

I didn’t post. I commented. Still, after you shut up I will never see this community again.

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