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BlueMonday1984
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BlueMonday1984@awful.systems Joined: 2024-02-02 |
Want to wade into the sandy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid. Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret. Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no. If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.) |
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lurker
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lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
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Jayjader
jlai.lu
Jayjader@jlai.lu Joined: 2023-12-31 |
Behold, one of Earth’s top scientists on sex and gender (according to Yud)
Ugh. Does it worry anyone else how much this fraudulent/incompetent way of claiming to be scientific resembles nazis and race science at their most fundamental workings? |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Ugh. Does it worry anyone else how much this fraudulent/incompetent way of claiming to be scientific resembles nazis and race science at their most fundamental workings?
A lot of rationalists (again including Yudkowsky) endorse eugenics so that’s probably not a coincidence |
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o7___o7
awful.systems
o7___o7@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-08 |
In a surprising turn and with much hedging, George Hotz suggests that maybe LLMs are bad actually. hackernews says that he's holding it wrong. |
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Sailor Sega Saturn
awful.systems
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-29 |
At this point I'm starting to suspect that AI thought leaders like being booed for giving anti-human speeches. Sundar is looking forward to it!
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gerikson
awful.systems
gerikson@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-01 |
At this point I'm starting to suspect that AI thought leaders like being booed for giving anti-human speeches. Sundar is looking forward to it! https://www.businessinsider.com/sundar-pichai-google-graduation-speech-stanford-ai-backlash-eric-schmidt Google CEO Sundar Pichai is scheduled to deliver the commencement speech at Stanford next month. [...] "These graduates are actually both going to b...
don't kinkshame |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
At this point I'm starting to suspect that AI thought leaders like being booed for giving anti-human speeches. Sundar is looking forward to it! https://www.businessinsider.com/sundar-pichai-google-graduation-speech-stanford-ai-backlash-eric-schmidt Google CEO Sundar Pichai is scheduled to deliver the commencement speech at Stanford next month. [...] "These graduates are actually both going to b...
It’s jawdropping how everyone in Silicon Valley is living in their own little world where AI is the greatest invention ever and everyone should be grateful for living in the year of the AI Gods |
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
At this point I'm starting to suspect that AI thought leaders like being booed for giving anti-human speeches. Sundar is looking forward to it! https://www.businessinsider.com/sundar-pichai-google-graduation-speech-stanford-ai-backlash-eric-schmidt Google CEO Sundar Pichai is scheduled to deliver the commencement speech at Stanford next month. [...] "These graduates are actually both going to b...
They do. Not the booing itself but being an edgy contrarian. Saying "provocative" anti-human hot takes is how you one-up one another inside the cult and prove you're the edgiest, most disruptive, fastest moving breaker of things in the industry. |
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
A lot of rationalists (again including Yudkowsky) endorse eugenics so that’s probably not a coincidence
Saying a lot of rationalists endorse eugenics is a bit like saying a lot of Nazis endorse white supremacy. Rationalism (the online subculture, not the older philosophical meaning of the term) is a subculture predicated on a notion of "general intelligence" which is reified ableism and therefore, necessarily, entails eugenics. |
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
back when LLMs started to get widespread and it became clear that they always make errors and you can only spot the errors if you're an expert who already knows the answers, because the errors are disguised with plausibility, people would tell me, "oh but they're useful for some things, like making summaries". four years and billions of dollars and devastation to "improve" them later, and I see from this Spotify screenshot that "AI summaries" are going well:
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
back when LLMs started to get widespread and it became clear that they always make errors and you can only spot the errors if you're an expert who already knows the answers, because the errors are disguised with plausibility, people would tell me, "oh but they're useful for some things, like making summaries". four years and billions of dollars and devastation to "improve" them later, and I see...
it's hard to explain how wrong this is thing is if you don't already know the books (which is a demonstration of the same principle, it looks too plausible, it's signal-shaped noise). but I'll try. Long (click to expand)Plot errorsOr, "does this thing even work?" (the answer is no).
Synopsis errorsThese are subtler than the funny plot errors but worse, because they defeat the purpose of a synopsis: informing the reader about whether this is their cup of tea, whether it it something they want to commit to right now.
Silly errors
what am I doing with my life why did I set out to do this. I miss wasting precious free time late night because somebody was wrong on the Internet, emphasis on somebody |
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BurgersMcSlopshot
awful.systems
BurgersMcSlopshot@awful.systems Joined: 2024-01-15 |
Ugh. Does it worry anyone else how much this fraudulent/incompetent way of claiming to be scientific resembles nazis and race science at their most fundamental workings?
Imagine the disappointment the rats must have felt when watching "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and wondering why all their heroes are getting their faces melted off. |
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zogwarg
awful.systems
zogwarg@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-04 |
Encyclical from the pope about the dangers of AI, mostly sane actually: (provided link skips quite a bit about social justice and referencing previous literature) EDIT, snippets:
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fullsquare
awful.systems
fullsquare@awful.systemsJoined: 2025-03-31 |
Encyclical from the pope about the dangers of AI, mostly sane actually: (provided link skips quite a bit about social justice and referencing previous literature) https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html#Artificial_intelligence EDIT, snippets: We cannot be satisfied with [...] the so-called “alignment” of AI [..] without [..] openly discu...
tired: butletian jihad wired: butlerian crusade e: maybe we should have seen this coming, prospective Keeper of Two Masjids wanted to build ai dc in Neom |
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antifuchs
awful.systems
antifuchs@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-22 |
it's hard to explain how wrong this is thing is if you don't already know the books (which is a demonstration of the same principle, it looks too plausible, it's signal-shaped noise). but I'll try. ::: spoiler Long (click to expand) Plot errors Or, "does this thing even work?" (the answer is no). A bitter 10-year winter: The winter is 1) famously not arrived yet, we're waiting for it to this da...
It’s been so long that I last cared about anything GoT-related but that was such a good summary. Your post goes straight in my bookmarks, thanks for making it. |
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antifuchs
awful.systems
antifuchs@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-22 |
In a surprising turn and with much hedging, George Hotz suggests that maybe LLMs are bad actually. hackernews says that he's holding it wrong. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48263238
I’m sure he is regretting his part in bringing online a major player in this fashtech fashion scene. Bet there’s a bunch of tears-wiping with dollar bills going on. |
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flere-imsaho
awful.systems
mawhrin@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Ugh. Does it worry anyone else how much this fraudulent/incompetent way of claiming to be scientific resembles nazis and race science at their most fundamental workings?
it's just another fash-adjacent subculture |
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fiat_lux
lemmy.zip
fiat_lux@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-24 |
In the latest episode of "behold the power of Mythos" from The Hacker News - Claude Mythos AI Finds 10,000 High-Severity Flaws in Widely Used Software I distilled it so you don't have to.
That 10,000 count didn't even survive until paragraph 3.
Ah fuck. 1726. But wait, a bad infographic has entered the ring!
Ok now we're talking.
Wait, what? Why those? Why only those?
You couldn't even cherry pick the valid ones?
Where did the other 1259 go? Maybe this other part of the flowchart will go better...
Most of them just spammed at open source maintainers. Right. Maybe Anthropic's media release has the goods!
Slightly lower than the 1900, but ok, whatever.
1587 is lower than the infographic's 1726 confirmed positives.... But 10% of 10000 high sev is still something, right?
I'm sure those maintainers enjoyed that 16% high+ sec rate based on Mythos' own estimations. But wasn't that 1129 the bulk of your reports?
530 is only a third of the reports you made to maintainers...
The infographic says 88. I'd ask if they were massaging their financials like they massaged 65 advisories, but we know they are. 23,019 potential vulnerability candidates of all severities, 65 advisories. If you printed the code out and drunkenly threw darts at it you'd probably hit the same level of accuracy. |
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V0ldek
awful.systems
V0ldek@awful.systemsJoined: 2024-01-16 |
In the latest episode of "behold the power of Mythos" from The Hacker News - Claude Mythos AI Finds 10,000 High-Severity Flaws in Widely Used Software I distilled it so you don't have to. Of these vulnerabilities, 6,202 have been classified as high- or critical-severity flaws impacting more than 1,000 open-source projects. That 10,000 count didn't even survive until paragraph 3. Subsequent anal...
All that it tells me is that if you spent the same amount of resources on just fuzzing randomly picked OSS codebases you'd probably get better value for your buck. |
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V0ldek
awful.systems
V0ldek@awful.systemsJoined: 2024-01-16 |
Encyclical from the pope about the dangers of AI, mostly sane actually: (provided link skips quite a bit about social justice and referencing previous literature) https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html#Artificial_intelligence EDIT, snippets: We cannot be satisfied with [...] the so-called “alignment” of AI [..] without [..] openly discu...
When our enemies are so fucking immoral I have to hand it to the HEAD OF THE CATHOLIC FUCKING CHURCH when the fuck did I enter the twilight zone |
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froztbyte
awful.systems
froztbyte@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-02 |
In the latest episode of "behold the power of Mythos" from The Hacker News - Claude Mythos AI Finds 10,000 High-Severity Flaws in Widely Used Software I distilled it so you don't have to. Of these vulnerabilities, 6,202 have been classified as high- or critical-severity flaws impacting more than 1,000 open-source projects. That 10,000 count didn't even survive until paragraph 3. Subsequent anal...
it continues to be amazing to me that this is the “high impact” area they’re going with: even if their analysis systems are better (and frankly I still don’t buy this wholesale, there’s a whole rest of the owl being handwaved[0]), bug-elimination is by definition diminishing returns so you can only fanfare like this the first time [0] - having fucking gigantic budgets to throw at running a parse of every single repo and every test condition/simulation you wish to certainly does help a hell of a lot, even moreso when you can shell out to a half-dozen second stage review corps… |
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froztbyte
awful.systems
froztbyte@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-02 |
All that it tells me is that if you spent the same amount of resources on just fuzzing randomly picked OSS codebases you'd probably get better value for your buck.
I’ve seen a handful of security people claim different kinds of yields with some of this shit. I haven’t gone to read up in depth but I wouldn’t be too surprised a lot of them run around with unstated assumptions/provisos in their thonkposts (this shit is expensive (for research volume) and only some people can afford the science experiments) Got a list of a couple of names I’m keeping an eye on as the first tokenprice-pocalypse (that needs a better word) takes place |
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froztbyte
awful.systems
froztbyte@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-02 |
They do. Not the booing itself but being an edgy contrarian. Saying "provocative" anti-human hot takes is how you one-up one another inside the cult and prove you're the edgiest, most disruptive, fastest moving breaker of things in the industry.
may they enjoy their introduction(s) to tomato milkshake ducks and shiver in fear nightly at the memory of feeling unpopular |
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CinnasVerses
awful.systems
CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
In the latest episode of "behold the power of Mythos" from The Hacker News - Claude Mythos AI Finds 10,000 High-Severity Flaws in Widely Used Software I distilled it so you don't have to. Of these vulnerabilities, 6,202 have been classified as high- or critical-severity flaws impacting more than 1,000 open-source projects. That 10,000 count didn't even survive until paragraph 3. Subsequent anal...
Anthropic (who own Claude Code) are hoping to IPO this year. |
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CinnasVerses
awful.systems
CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
don't kinkshame
Back in my day California perverts said "don't scene in public" |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
I’ve seen a handful of security people claim different kinds of yields with some of this shit. I haven’t gone to read up in depth but I wouldn’t be too surprised a lot of them run around with unstated assumptions/provisos in their thonkposts (this shit is expensive (for research volume) and only some people can afford the science experiments) Got a list of a couple of names I’m keeping an eye o...
Vibenarok |
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Amoeba_Girl
awful.systems
Amoeba_Girl@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-16 |
it's hard to explain how wrong this is thing is if you don't already know the books (which is a demonstration of the same principle, it looks too plausible, it's signal-shaped noise). but I'll try. ::: spoiler Long (click to expand) Plot errors Or, "does this thing even work?" (the answer is no). A bitter 10-year winter: The winter is 1) famously not arrived yet, we're waiting for it to this da...
"Cerisi" and gender confusion make me think this might be for some reason a machine translation of a generated summary, so like, two layers of slop? |
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flere-imsaho
awful.systems
mawhrin@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
When our enemies are so fucking immoral I have to hand it to the HEAD OF THE CATHOLIC FUCKING CHURCH when the fuck did I enter the twilight zone
for the nerds here, said head of the catholic fucking church quotes (correctly!) one gandalf from the works of well known catholic writer named tolkien |
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o7___o7
awful.systems
o7___o7@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-08 |
I’m sure he is regretting his part in bringing online a major player in this fashtech fashion scene. Bet there’s a bunch of tears-wiping with dollar bills going on.
Yeaaaaaaaaaah pretty much |
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o7___o7
awful.systems
o7___o7@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-08 |
Vibenarok
Perfection |
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froztbyte
awful.systems
froztbyte@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-02 |
Vibenarok
ooh, brava! |
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Sailor Sega Saturn
awful.systems
sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-29 |
Encyclical from the pope about the dangers of AI, mostly sane actually: (provided link skips quite a bit about social justice and referencing previous literature) https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html#Artificial_intelligence EDIT, snippets: We cannot be satisfied with [...] the so-called “alignment” of AI [..] without [..] openly discu...
I don't think anyone here is at risk of being tricked into thinking that the pope is their friend (unlike some people on social media...) Under the last pope the church used similar arguments to argue that transgender people are unnatural (unsaid part: and probably shouldn't be given healthcare). It's hard for me to read this without thinking about that backdrop:
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CinnasVerses
awful.systems
CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
Mike Masnick had a look at Twitter's financials in the SpaceX IPO. From $4.5 billion in ad revenue in 2021, twitter + Grok is down to $3 billion ad revenue a year (and losing $6 billion a year just on the CSAM-generating chatbot). His billionaire friends tossed in $2 billion or $250 million each into the kitty after a brief chat back in 2022. |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
I don't think anyone here is at risk of being tricked into thinking that the pope is their friend (unlike some people on social media...) Under the last pope the church used similar arguments to argue that transgender people are unnatural (unsaid part: and probably shouldn't be given healthcare). It's hard for me to read this without thinking about that backdrop: Desiring a personal self-determ...
just gonna leave https://www.npr.org/2025/11/12/g-s1-97651/gender-affirming-care-ban-catholic-hospitals here |
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
Encyclical from the pope about the dangers of AI, mostly sane actually: (provided link skips quite a bit about social justice and referencing previous literature) https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html#Artificial_intelligence EDIT, snippets: We cannot be satisfied with [...] the so-called “alignment” of AI [..] without [..] openly discu...
Seizing "the res novæ of our time" [derogatory] from this |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
just gonna leave https://www.npr.org/2025/11/12/g-s1-97651/gender-affirming-care-ban-catholic-hospitals here
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samvines
awful.systems
samvines@awful.systems Joined: 2026-02-09 |
I've not seen this shared here yet so I thought I'd share: Is AI Profitable Yet? https://isaiprofitable.com/ |
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macroplastic
sh.itjust.works
macroplastic@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-11-17 |
Vibenarok
Eschatoken |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Timnit Gebru: ... an Anthropic cofounder was specifically thanked during the Pope's speech where he said that they will "work together to "find the way for humanity, in this time of artificial intelligence." Chris Olah wasn't a random attendee. The Vatican had been cultivating these relationships for many years.
what the fuck’s the Pope gonna do, convert Claude to Christianity? |
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CinnasVerses
awful.systems
CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
Masnick also has a story on how Musk got away with hiding just how many Twitter shares he owned when he bought the company https://www.techdirt.com/2026/05/11/elon-musk-settles-sec-lawsuit-for-spare-change-proving-once-again-that-rules-are-for-other-people/ |
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fiat_lux
lemmy.zip
fiat_lux@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-24 |
it continues to be amazing to me that this is the “high impact” area they’re going with: even if their analysis systems are better (and frankly I still don’t buy this wholesale, there’s a whole rest of the owl being handwaved[0]), bug-elimination is by definition diminishing returns so you can only fanfare like this the first time [0] - having fucking gigantic budgets to throw at running a pars...
I honestly can't think of anywhere else they can go with it. They need:
Code security review is probably the only way you can realistically achieve all four. But they're not even coming close. Not even with access to "partner" black box repositories coupled with under-resourced open source packages. And they know they're not succeeding, because they wouldn't bury that 530 high+ sev number deep in the middle of the press release if they thought it were impressive. Luckily for them, the slop "news" blogs will parrot numbers like 10k, and their only strength - model collapse as a marketing strategy - can handwave the rest of that owl. |
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aninjury2all
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aninjury2all@awful.systems Joined: 2024-05-08 |
I’m at a bar trying to watch the Knicks, and there’s someone 2 seats over from me very loudly talking to their date about AI with a lot of LessWrong-coded talking points. For the love of Jalen Brunson just let me watch the fucking game |
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Evinceo
awful.systems
Evinceo@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-04 |
what the fuck’s the Pope gonna do, convert Claude to Christianity?
Not if Dawkins converts Claudia to Atheism first! |
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antifuchs
awful.systems
antifuchs@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-22 |
Send more tech billionaires to space, more often, for longer: https://web.archive.org/web/20220117205028/https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/01/we-dont-know-why-but-being-in-space-causes-us-to-destroy-our-blood/ |
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fiat_lux
lemmy.zip
fiat_lux@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-24 |
Encyclical from the pope about the dangers of AI, mostly sane actually: (provided link skips quite a bit about social justice and referencing previous literature) https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html#Artificial_intelligence EDIT, snippets: We cannot be satisfied with [...] the so-called “alignment” of AI [..] without [..] openly discu...
Edging dangerously close to self-reflection there, but quickly pivoted.
A timely reminder that the Vatican Bank were fighting lawsuits as late as 2010 where they argue they were justified to use filthy lucre from the WW2 fascists they trafficked, because Communists are dangerous. Such dedication to rebuilding demolished cities and the common good.
Doesn't claim to assume the functions belonging to the State, while being a literal ethnostate, with a bank distributing official Euros, which argues they're immune from prosecution under the US Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act. Fuck right off. The Vatican has just found a new group of fascists willing to fill their coffers as payment for shelter. From the pope's first address to the college of Cardinals: “In our own day, the Church offers to everyone the treasury of her social teaching in response to another industrial revolution" Here we see how the treasury of social teaching manifests. The Church is a laundromat, specializing in whitewashing. I can't even get past the first full chapter of this shit. |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Not if Dawkins converts Claudia to Atheism first!
I can’t decide if I hate hardcore atheist or hardcore christian claude more |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
Encyclical from the pope about the dangers of AI, mostly sane actually: (provided link skips quite a bit about social justice and referencing previous literature) https://www.vatican.va/content/leo-xiv/en/encyclicals/documents/20260515-magnifica-humanitas.html#Artificial_intelligence EDIT, snippets: We cannot be satisfied with [...] the so-called “alignment” of AI [..] without [..] openly discu...
I encountered this in the wild over on Reddit about the Pope and AI |
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o7___o7
awful.systems
o7___o7@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-08 |
I'm surprised that the religious fanatics (protestant) haven't turned on AI yet. The ones around these parts think that UFOs and pokemon cards are satanic, so the Californian lying machine that tells kids to kill themselves wouldn't be much of a reach. |
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YourNetworkIsHaunted
awful.systems
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems Joined: 2024-03-22 |
In the latest episode of "behold the power of Mythos" from The Hacker News - Claude Mythos AI Finds 10,000 High-Severity Flaws in Widely Used Software I distilled it so you don't have to. Of these vulnerabilities, 6,202 have been classified as high- or critical-severity flaws impacting more than 1,000 open-source projects. That 10,000 count didn't even survive until paragraph 3. Subsequent anal...
So what's the over/under on the discrepancies between the numbers that the HN folks got and the official press release numbers being in part due to some kind of hallucinatron hijinks? Because I'm gonna go ahead and predict with confidence that either the HN post was written with a faulty slopbot and they didn't check it or else the presser itself went through the matrix-multiplication-meaning-mangler. Possibly both and all those numbers are similar levels of "more or less right, we swear" |
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