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klu9 piefed.social klu9@piefed.social
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Paywall removed https://archive.is/CVRiy

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Kairos lemmy.today LodeMike@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-12-26
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It would be nice if I could know how to use these services without some "box" or "app"

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

The Verge needs to stop making articles like this.

Fucking idiots want to ruin a good thing

.... Or they're trying to?

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klu9 piefed.social klu9@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-04
#4 · Quote Reply

It would be nice if I could know how to use these services without some "box" or "app"

The article explains that the key services are tied to the hardware & probably controlled (with an attempt at plausible deniability) by the hardware vendors.

Guess someone now needs to come up with a a way to pirate these pirate services 😁

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Unreliable lemmy.ml Unreliable@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#5 · Quote Reply

The Verge needs to stop making articles like this. Fucking idiots want to ruin a good thing .... Or they're trying to?

They'll cover whatever is going to generate them clicks.

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darcmage lemmy.dbzer0.com darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-01-04
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

It would be nice if I could know how to use these services without some "box" or "app"

https://iptv.surf/ <- Start here

https://ottiptvprovider.com/search <- Helps find the provider with the channels you're looking for

https://search.streamcheck.pro/ <- Checks the quality of each provider

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mic_check_one_two lemmy.dbzer0.com mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-03-20
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The Verge needs to stop making articles like this. Fucking idiots want to ruin a good thing .... Or they're trying to?

Yeah, it feels like a “loose lips sink ships” situation… But on the other side of the same coin, there’s no way the TV providers were ignorant of this. They undoubtedly already knew, so it’s not like this article is going to bring anything new to light. If anything, it may put a target on the backs of some of the people who were quoted in the article for litigation, but that’s not going to actually stop the boxes from being sold in the long term.

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railway692 piefed.zip railway692@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-11
#8 · Quote Reply

It's not theft. It's copying or copyright infringement.

If it was theft, the owners wouldn't have it anymore.

The words matter because they change your moral intuition about it.

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pinballwizard lemmy.dbzer0.com pinballwizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-02-18
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Yeah, it feels like a “loose lips sink ships” situation… But on the other side of the same coin, there’s no way the TV providers were ignorant of this. They undoubtedly already knew, so it’s not like this article is going to bring anything new to light. If anything, it may put a target on the backs of some of the people who were quoted in the article for litigation, but that’s not going to actu...

lets be honest though. piracy used to be seen as this super complicated thing hackers did. now that the average grandma has tasted the sweet nectar of free media, nobody is going back. what the State doesn't want you to know is that if enough people stop complying with laws, then they lose the capability to be able to enforce them. eventually- too many people won't respect the laws and regardless of the consequences on paper there will be no consequence in practice. there are too few police officers in the united states- even with over policing and mass incarceration what it is, to be able to enforce this.

The market is just going to have to get realistic and realize that you can't nickle and dime people in the era of mass market, high bandwidth, telecommunications.

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irelephant [he/him] lemmy.dbzer0.com irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
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Yeah, it feels like a “loose lips sink ships” situation… But on the other side of the same coin, there’s no way the TV providers were ignorant of this. They undoubtedly already knew, so it’s not like this article is going to bring anything new to light. If anything, it may put a target on the backs of some of the people who were quoted in the article for litigation, but that’s not going to actu...

Thinking about this...I feel this is more:

"Notice me billion dollar cable. Look I'm tattling, now go bribe a congressman that you're upset and don't forget about us once they pass a law"

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chillpanzee lemmy.ml chillpanzee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-08-03
#12 · Quote Reply

Yeah, it feels like a “loose lips sink ships” situation… But on the other side of the same coin, there’s no way the TV providers were ignorant of this. They undoubtedly already knew, so it’s not like this article is going to bring anything new to light. If anything, it may put a target on the backs of some of the people who were quoted in the article for litigation, but that’s not going to actu...

The companies definitely know. Knowledge levels, insights, and interdiction capabilities vary by company, but every media company knows about boxes like this, and the dude at the gas station who will sell you a thumb drive with movies on it, and the secondary markets for stolen passwords, usenet, kodi, and the hundreds of other ways.

Source: I worked in such a company for a kotra years.

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hexagonwin lemmy.today hexagonwin@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-07
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you wouldn't download a television

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hexagonwin lemmy.today hexagonwin@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-07
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i mean it's partially true.. many of those weird android tv boxes have spyware loaded onto them, mostly for botnet/residential proxies and sometimes infostealers.

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EriktheRed piefed.ca EriktheRed@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-02-01
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It's not theft. It's copying or copyright infringement. If it was theft, the owners wouldn't have it anymore. The words matter because they change your moral intuition about it.

Thank you! This is such an important distinction.

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eleitl lemmy.zip eleitl@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-05
#16 · Quote Reply

Way ahead of you here. Stopped watching TV entirely in the early 1990s.

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68silver beehaw.org 68silver@beehaw.org
Joined: 2023-08-23
#17 · Quote Reply

LibreElec installed on a raspberry pi 4 with a real debrid sub will get you pretty much the same thing for less money.

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infinitesunrise slrpnk.net infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-01-27
#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

The Verge needs to stop making articles like this. Fucking idiots want to ruin a good thing .... Or they're trying to?

The fact that they use the term "stealing" for the act of duplicating makes me feel like they're wrecking. I'd take this entire article with a dose of salt.

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DoucheBagMcSwag lemmy.dbzer0.com DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#19 · Quote Reply

The fact that they use the term "stealing" for the act of duplicating makes me feel like they're wrecking. I'd take this entire article with a dose of salt.

Yeah, they're definitely trying to fucking rat and snitch

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quediuspayu lemmy.dbzer0.com quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-06
#20 · Quote Reply

I wouldn't mind learning all this magic, seems interesting

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pkjqpg1h lemmy.zip pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-02-10
#21 · Quote Reply

It's not theft. It's copying or copyright infringement. If it was theft, the owners wouldn't have it anymore. The words matter because they change your moral intuition about it.
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railway692 piefed.zip railway692@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-11
#22 · Quote Reply

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It will be interesting to see how the MPAA tackles Hotfile now that they are restricted in the language they can use. It probably means that the term “copyright infringement” will be used more often than they had hoped.

To be continued.

This was written back in 2013. Does anyone know how that shook out?

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brie_cheese piefed.ca brie_cheese@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-01-31
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yeah, theyre really perfect for the average person who doesnt know shit about piracy

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