Link: https://gizmodo.com/reddit-meta-and-google-voluntarily-gave-dhs-info-of-anti-ice-users-report-says-2000722279

DHS is expanding its use of administrative subpoenas, which don't come from judges.

Fuck these people

Discord too.

Centralized services suck

Users on those centralized platforms got exactly what they deserved. The writing on the wall was yelled at them for years and still ignored.

cucks

Ya, I'm not sure why they are not included in the title when they are talked about in the article too. These massive tech companies cannot be trusted with your data to any degree.

Idk. If it was in their TOS yes they agreed to it. But if the company sait it would only give info if requested by a warrant and they given it without any consideration. They can be sued .

The risk is still there on decentralized platforms too, though.

Discord doesn't get as many clicks compared to the larger companies, since fewer people know about it. For articles like this, news publishers always list the most well-known brands.

Likely because Discord is not as widely known - and it'd make the title longer.

I sure do hope that once anti-ICE users catch a wind of this, they'd move to lemmy, Signal and selfhosted platforms ASAP.

I suspect the user above you doesn’t care about that technicality. They’re just blaming victims for not being as virtuous as we are, which is small.

Lemmy is by no means private or secure, and depending on your level of op-sec you are easily identifiable.

Everyone making stuff wants arbitrary power application, so it happens. That's how the world works.

Also people without wisdom are sometimes still very intelligent. In nature viruses that kill everything don't survive because they kill everything. In human societies a huge part of those intelligent enough want to kill everything they don't like. Or to kill all their enemies they can. They don't think what happens next, where the emptiness is filled by something they haven't evolved their tactics for. Something less predictable than what they are fighting now.

I'm thinking of Israelis right now, but it happens everywhere, the general consensus becoming that you should kill all you can of what you don't like.

I mean, were they intelligent they'd understand this, it would seem, and at the same time there's an unexpected direction from which disagreement comes - Tolkien's thing in the ending of LOTR where Gandalf says about future generations having different weeds to root out from their fields, and that not being the responsibility of the current generation. So i don't know.

Perhaps everyone is becoming wiser and I'm a fool.

Anyway. The Nazi model of society, which is most similar to this, has failed. Not because of a war lost, as it was spreading to many other countries and wasn't really abruptly removed from Germany after that war. Simply because it became inefficient. It was phased out, slowly replaced. I think that's what will happen here too. But that might be another 20-30-40 years, so we are going to live in a not very nice world.

About Israel - perhaps in such a world I'll move there. I don't like the general worldview of people living there, it's really fascist, but in a miserable way, I'd prefer something like the atmosphere in Foucault's Pendulum by Eco if we have to do fascism. I don't like that most Israelis I've met perceive civilized discussion as an insult. But if I'm going to have children some day, they'd rather be among "their own tribe" by those rules which are coming to prevalence everywhere.

I feel Discord is just as widely known as Reddit. People are also more likely to send messages on discord that they may have considered private (even of they shouldn't have)

I just did. I made an account last year from the api changeover, but now seeing this, I'm leaving for sure and maining lemmy

It's easier here, it's almost every user.

Yeah, sounds like your typical nazi reddit admins.