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JohnnyEnzyme
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njm1314
lemmy.world
njm1314@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
Define "great" one hypocritical quote surely doesn't make him great. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
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JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
Define "great" one hypocritical quote surely doesn't make him great.
I'm sure I don't know, but he has a number of great, socially-progressive quotes to his name, as well as famously admitting (and pointing out) how the military-industrial complex works. But go ahead and slam him over specifics-- that should be fun, right? |
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reddig33
lemmy.world
reddig33@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Define "great" one hypocritical quote surely doesn't make him great.
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TomMasz
lemmy.world
TomMasz@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
I'm sure I don't know, but he has a number of great, socially-progressive quotes to his name, as well as famously admitting (and pointing out) how the military-industrial complex works. But go ahead and slam him over specifics-- that should be fun, right?
He'd be considered a socialist by today's GOP. It's hard to overstate how far right the party has become. |
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njm1314
lemmy.world
njm1314@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
I'm sure I don't know, but he has a number of great, socially-progressive quotes to his name, as well as famously admitting (and pointing out) how the military-industrial complex works. But go ahead and slam him over specifics-- that should be fun, right?
Well yes that is what you're supposed to judge people on. You don't judge them on little sayings they say as they go out the door but on the things they did while in office. Did Eisenhower stop the rise of the military industrial complex? Shit no. He engaged in it. He expanded it. Am I not supposed to judge a Man based on his support of terrorism and assassinations? Am I not supposed to judge him based on his arming of fascist military groups? Is that what greatness is? |
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njm1314
lemmy.world
njm1314@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
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Sure would have been nice if he practiced what he preached. |
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rockSlayer
lemmy.blahaj.zone
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-02-24 |
Define "great" one hypocritical quote surely doesn't make him great.
Well I mean he also called in the national guard to force the integration of schools. On the other hand, he also overthrew the democratically elected socialist leader of Guatemala at the behest of Chiquita |
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TranscendentalEmpire
lemmy.today
TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-09 |
I'm sure I don't know, but he has a number of great, socially-progressive quotes to his name, as well as famously admitting (and pointing out) how the military-industrial complex works. But go ahead and slam him over specifics-- that should be fun, right?
I mean he's arguably responsible for the current war the US finds themselves in, so I'd say his legacy is somewhat tainted. |
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SwingingTheLamp
piefed.zip
SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-12-27 |
He'd be considered a socialist by today's GOP. It's hard to overstate how far right the party has become.
Hell, this quote is too far left for Democrats. |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I'm not sure if Ike was "great" or not, but he was certainly the last acceptable one! |
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WalleyeWarrior
midwest.social
WalleyeWarrior@midwest.socialJoined: 2026-01-03 |
Sure would have been nice if he practiced what he preached.
Yeah hard to take him at his word when he was ramping up nuclear weapons and funneling money to France to fight Ho Chi Minh in French Indochina. |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
Don't worry, that's why the industrial-military complex sends them to the fronts, ergo anyone left behind is either unfit or unpatriotic (or, a spy —most likely a spy) 😶🌫️ |
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wyldrstallyns
lemmy.dbzer0.com
wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2026-05-16 |
Well I mean he also called in the national guard to force the integration of schools. On the other hand, he also overthrew the democratically elected socialist leader of Guatemala at the behest of Chiquita
Gotta keep those bananas cheap and labor cheaper! |
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Courtney (she/her/they)
lemmy.blahaj.zone
EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-04-10 |
Hilariously, my dad served on the Dwight D Eisenhower in the navy. I wonder what the man himself might have to say on that. |
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iocase
lemmy.zip
iocase@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-05-11 |
Don't worry, that's why the industrial-military complex sends them to the fronts, ergo anyone left behind is either unfit or unpatriotic (or, a spy —most likely a spy) 😶🌫️
Your meat grinding scars are deemed by the VA to not be meat grinder connected. |
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RememberTheApollo_
lemmy.world
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-08-26 |
Hilariously, my dad served on the Dwight D Eisenhower in the navy. I wonder what the man himself might have to say on that.
Let’s not paint the man as perfect in order to tear him down. Nobody’s saying he was perfect. Eisenhower had a lot of issues, among which he presided over the country at a time where we still had segregated water fountains as a rule, allowed McCarthy’s Red Scare witch hunt to proceed mostly unchecked which destroyed people's lives, of which a byproduct was helping Roy Cohn to notoriety, and that horrible human being was basically a Trump pal and mentor. That said, he was far better viewing government as a tool to improve the societal infrastructure of the country and the lives of the less well off citizens. By today’s republican standards he was a radical socialist. |
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BenLeMan
lemmy.world
BenLeMan@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-15 |
Well, that was when political leaders still had a shred of integrity. He was certainly public-minded and tried to serve his country well. He enforced desegregation and ended the Korean War. But he also oversaw the creation of the military industrial complex, which he would famously (if somewhat ironically) lament in his farewell address. And that's arguably where America's current problems with money in politics started. The rise of the CIA and its support of antidemocratic regimes is also part of Eisenhower's legacy. Operations TPAJAX and TPSUCCESS were done with his close support and involvement. He also sponsored the government of Ngo Dinh Diem in South Vietnam which refused to implement the 1956 Geneva Accords, leading to the disaster of the Vietnam War. Overall, he cemented the turn away from New Deal era social democratic policies that had already begun in the Truman years as the Red Scare was finally taking hold of the United States. |
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