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House committee advances bill to ban chemtrails
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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#152 · Quote Reply

So we banned ...water vapor No. A chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within or above this state for the purpose of affecting the weather, including temperature, climate, and intensity of sunlight.

so.. we banned clouds!

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Erro lemmy.world Erro@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#153 · Quote Reply

So we banned ...water vapor No. A chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within or above this state for the purpose of affecting the weather, including temperature, climate, and intensity of sunlight.

Di hydrogen monoxide fits the definition of a chemical...

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cynar lemmy.world cynar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#154 · Quote Reply

I thought they were just condensation?

They are, but clouds disproportionately reflect IR. Basically the energy comes in as a mix of high, medium and low energy light. The earth re-radiates as low energy IR. Clouds trap this keeping the warmth (and energy) in.

Clouds and CO2 act in a similar way.

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BurgerBaron piefed.social BurgerBaron@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-25
#155 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sadly they'll just think it's the federal govt doing the spraying that's why they ignore state laws.

Legality never stopped the USA from spraying radioactive mist (zinc cadmium sulfide) over Medicine Hat, Alberta and a couple other smaller towns not just Canada, but their own citizens too during the Cold War as a funny little experiment to see how radioactive fallout from nukes would move around the environment. Higher than average local birth defects are the legacy of that, which almost everyone is ignorant of.

But yeah the conspiracy that it's widespread and regular behaviour is so fucking goofy.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#156 · Quote Reply

Republicans will do literally anything to avoid actually governing.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#157 · Quote Reply

They are, but clouds disproportionately reflect IR. Basically the energy comes in as a mix of high, medium and low energy light. The earth re-radiates as low energy IR. Clouds trap this keeping the warmth (and energy) in. Clouds and CO2 act in a similar way.

I see. Thanks for the clarification

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ThomasWilliams lemmy.world ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-10
#158 · (edited) Quote Reply

It bans cloud seeding and geoengineering. Passing this off as a 'ban on chemtrails' is deliberately dishonest. a Class B misdemeanor for the injection, release or dispersal of “a chemical, a chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within or above this state for the purpose of affecting the weather, including temperature, climate, and intensity of sunlight.

No it isn't.

They claim the recent floods were because of chemtrails from planes seeding in the sky (those trails of water vapour you see behind planes, ), based on aluminium found on the ground (cloud seeding is done with silver iodide btw and is incredibly expensive).

Stop trying to downplay it.

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ThomasWilliams lemmy.world ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-10
#159 · Quote Reply

So we banned ...water vapor No. A chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within or above this state for the purpose of affecting the weather, including temperature, climate, and intensity of sunlight.

No, they are banning water vapour. Read the article.

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Onsotumenh discuss.tchncs.de Onsotumenh@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-25
#160 · Quote Reply

Should be easy for the airlines to comply with, since they don't leave chemtrails, they leave contrails.

You know what else leaves contrails? Politicians!

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WorldsDumbestMan lemmy.today WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
Joined: 2024-12-05
#161 · Quote Reply

Are they actually thinking that there’s some private individual that is spending billions building a secret massive network of bribed pilots and bribed mechanics that are spraying such chemicals to change the weather or influence the people in some ways? I mean, that’s basically what the petrochemical industry has done. Not to influence people chemically, but to keep business up.

They hated him, because he spoke the truth

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scarabic lemmy.world scarabic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#162 · (edited) Quote Reply

I gave MY preferences for reading, note the use of the phrase "I prefer". I did not extoll the virtues of reading. It's a shame your English Lit exposure in college didn't extend to education on logical fallacies, because you use them a lot. 1: “this video says you’re wrong” 2: “well I don’t watch videos dahling.” (flips hair, draws on cigarette) 1: User actually said "contrails are completely ...

note the use of the phrase "I prefer"

Nah. Let’s note what you actually said, not this attempt at softening it. Someone posted a video link, and you said:

I'm not going to watch a YouTube video that could be a few paragraphs of textual explanation, because it'll no doubt be eight times longer than it needs to be for the benefit of more ad money or promotion in the almighty algorithm.

You haughtily and wrongly dismissed it. It was short. It was highly informational. It did not drag on or exhort you to smash the like button. You made an assumption, you were confidently wrong, and thanks to me you now know it.

You tell me to educate myself about logical fallacies while misusing “ad hominem.” I didn’t try to discredit your argument about contrails by attacking its source. I’ve really not engaged you at all about contrails. I said you were acting like an ass. That your behavior, right here, right in front of me, was haughty and foolish. It was. A rebuke is not by necessity an ad hominem logical fallacy.

School’s out. Thank god you’ve promised not to post more haughty, foolish, confidently wrong nonsense.

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NihilsineNefas slrpnk.net NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-06-19
#163 · (edited) Quote Reply

Presumably companies would be able to argue they aren't pushing out pollutants with the intention to change the climate

Unfortunately "the purpose of a system is what it does" doesn't count as a valid argument when the ones in charge of the system have more money than the courts :/

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Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In lemmy.world Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#164 · Quote Reply

No, they are banning water vapour. Read the article.

No, you read the article. Here's the direct quote

Holley and others were speaking on House Bill 25 by State Representative Mack Butler, R-Rainbow City, which would create a Class B misdemeanor for the injection, release or dispersal of “a chemical, a chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within or above this state for the purpose of affecting the weather, including temperature, climate, and intensity of sunlight.”

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#165 · Quote Reply

As said in the video everyone refused to watch, it doesn’t require all new routes but occasional 1-2% course deviations or altitude changes for a minority of flights. It’s also claimed that contrails have far, far more warming effect than any additional carbon that might be emitted by this. But hey, he posted it in a video so FUCK HIM, RITE?

rite!

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