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Artisian lemmy.world Artisian@lemmy.world
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A bird with an arrow pointing at it, text saying "How has he done it? without falling?". "Has he cheated got at last?     no.   he has simply befriended the spirals" arrow pointing to another diagram, depicting lift and turbulance of a bird.

know your meme, classic I'm told.

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TachyonTele piefed.social TachyonTele@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-03
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Sure. It's easy for government drones like this to use spirals...

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SailorFuzz lemmy.world SailorFuzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-23
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Spirals, you say?

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Zuriz sh.itjust.works Zuriz@sh.itjust.works
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psx_crab lemmy.zip psx_crab@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-01-11
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Air Bending obvs

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verdare piefed.blahaj.zone verdare@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-07
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Spirals, you say?

This is truly the drill that will pierce the heavens.

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Captain Aggravated sh.itjust.works captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-20
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The bird flies despite the spirals, not because of them.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-15
#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

The bird flies despite the spirals, not because of them.

It’s sort of like those traits that handicap the bearer and so the better that aspect is, the more suitable a mate. Like peacock tail feathers.

The male swallow’s tips are spiraled for her pleasure.

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Captain Aggravated sh.itjust.works captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-20
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It’s sort of like those traits that handicap the bearer and so the better that aspect is, the more suitable a mate. Like peacock tail feathers. The male swallow’s tips are spiraled for her pleasure.

No it's more that physics is a fickle bitch.

Those spirals are called tip vortices. They occur because there is relatively high pressure under the wing and relatively low pressure above. At the wing tip, that higher pressure air wants to roll up over the wing tip to get to that low pressure area, which is what sets that spiral in motion. Any airfoil that is creating lift will have a vortex at its tip. Wings, tail surfaces, propeller blades, rotor blades, you name it. The higher the angle of attack, the more significant the tip vortex.

Have you ever seen a jet airplane that has fuel tanks out at the wing tips? Most of the reason they're there is to reduce tip vortices and thus reduce drag. The additional fuel capacity is a minor byproduct. You might notice most newer airliners feature winglets; the wing tips are turned up. That's not for additional yaw stabilty, those are there to reduce tip vortices, decrease drag and decrease fuel consumption.

Tip vortices are the main factor in wake turbulence, which is an entire class session in flight school. All a tower controller will say to you is "caution wake turbulence." And they're right. It's the pilot's job to know what to do about it, because trailing behind and below the wing tip of every airplane is an invisible sideways tornado you just have to know is there so you don't get thrown onto your Cessna's roof when landing behind a Boeing.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-15
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No it's more that physics is a fickle bitch. Those spirals are called tip vortices. They occur because there is relatively high pressure under the wing and relatively low pressure above. At the wing tip, that higher pressure air wants to roll up over the wing tip to get to that low pressure area, which is what sets that spiral in motion. Any airfoil that is creating lift will have a vortex at i...

That whooshing sound was the joke’s vortexes flying over your head.

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Captain Aggravated sh.itjust.works captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-20
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That whooshing sound was the joke’s vortexes flying over your head.

We're in the science memes sub, I talked about the science. I actually have credentials in this subject.

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massive_bereavement fedia.io massive_bereavement@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-06-14
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No it's more that physics is a fickle bitch. Those spirals are called tip vortices. They occur because there is relatively high pressure under the wing and relatively low pressure above. At the wing tip, that higher pressure air wants to roll up over the wing tip to get to that low pressure area, which is what sets that spiral in motion. Any airfoil that is creating lift will have a vortex at i...

I have spent a lifetime watching birds, and this is the first time I learned about this.

Thanks

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Voroxpete sh.itjust.works Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-07
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Spirals, you say?

As a fan of both Gurren Lagann and Uzumaki I am deeply torn on this.

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-24
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I have spent a lifetime watching birds, and this is the first time I learned about this. Thanks

Now you will spend the rest of your lifetime imagine what type of wingtip would be most suitable for a bird.

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dellish lemmy.world dellish@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-11
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I have spent a lifetime watching birds, and this is the first time I learned about this. Thanks

Next time you're watching a bird that likes to glide a lot, such as an eagle, have a look at how long their wing tip feathers are. They tend the curve upwards in flight and act in much the same way as winglets on aircraft.

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Artisian lemmy.world Artisian@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
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We're in the science memes sub, I talked about the science. I actually have credentials in this subject.

and I for one am very happy you're here!

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
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Spirals, you say?

I've got to win this one i bribed everyone in hollywood.

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agamemnonymous sh.itjust.works agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-15
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Spirals, you say?

So, this is the power of the spiral... not bad

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TachyonTele piefed.social TachyonTele@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-03
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We're in the science memes sub, I talked about the science. I actually have credentials in this subject.

I laughed and learned. I feel like that's a huge plus for this community. Thank you

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potoooooooo 🥔 lemmy.world ivanafterall@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

Be careful befriending the spirals. My ex and I befriended them one night in a tent in Zion National Park and neither of us could find my penis for some time and not just because it's so small. We were physically patting around for it and I swear it was gone, it felt like it had spiraled down to my leg, but it wasn't there either and I couldn't stop looping into myself, so it was really like it was running from me.

They'll getcha. That's all I'm saying.

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Bytemeister lemmy.world Bytemeister@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
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No it's more that physics is a fickle bitch. Those spirals are called tip vortices. They occur because there is relatively high pressure under the wing and relatively low pressure above. At the wing tip, that higher pressure air wants to roll up over the wing tip to get to that low pressure area, which is what sets that spiral in motion. Any airfoil that is creating lift will have a vortex at i...

I think there is a other layer to this. The image in question (I think) is showing how a birdoid body in flight avoids adverse yaw when banking for turns. That is done by managing the tip vortices in such a way to create a proverse yaw force. Quite literally, by befriending the spirals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_yaw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prandtl-D

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GhostFace lemmy.today GhostFace@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-05-03
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I miss TPP so much... Those were simpler times.

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Captain Aggravated sh.itjust.works captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-20
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I think there is a other layer to this. The image in question (I think) is showing how a birdoid body in flight avoids adverse yaw when banking for turns. That is done by managing the tip vortices in such a way to create a proverse yaw force. Quite literally, by befriending the spirals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_yaw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prandtl-D

Hmm, that's interesting, I'm thinking like a pilot here but tip vortices increase in magnitude as AoA increasess, adding to adverse yaw of ailerons. I figured birds handled yaw control through wing sweep, kind of like how a weight shift trike does.

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