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What RPG rules would you use for Brancalonia instead of D&D?
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Jürgen Hubert ttrpg.network juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network
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I love the setting of Brancalonia. I love the humor, I love the folklore, and I am currently learning Italian in evening classes to boot, so this is basically a perfect mix.

But I do not love that the authors picked D&D 5E as the rule system for this setting. Don't get me wrong, I find D&D 5E perfectly acceptable for heroic fantasy campaigns (and, in fact, I am running such a campaign right now). And I can understand this choice from a business perspective - it makes a lot of sense to tie your setting to the most popular RPG system out there.

However, Brancalonia PCs are not supposed to be great heroes, but fairly unimpressive never-do-wells. The rules deal with this by capping character level at 6, but I feel that this leaves the PCs with too little room to grow and removes much of the proper D&D experience. I'd rather use a rule system that was intended for weaker protagonists, rather than trying to distort D&D into something that is not.

So, what alternate system would you use for Brancalonia?

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sbv sh.itjust.works sbv@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-11
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I hear good stuff about Blades in the Dark, but I'm not too familiar with it. I wonder if that would work.

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justdaveisfine piefed.social justdaveisfine@piefed.social
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#3 · Quote Reply

I'd recommend Pathfinder 2e's combat then, though I haven't played Brancalonia to know if it's a perfect fit.

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Sanctus anarchist.nexus Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-08
#4 · Quote Reply

Maybe use some GURPs, or FFG's system might actually work really well here.

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Jürgen Hubert ttrpg.network juergen_hubert@ttrpg.network
Joined: 2025-01-21
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'd recommend Pathfinder 2e's combat then, though I haven't played Brancalonia to know if it's a perfect fit.

Pathfinder 2E has a very similar power curve as D&D 5E. In fact, it might even be worse for Brancalonia as characters basically get their level as a flat bonus on everything.

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BlameTheAntifa lemmy.world BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-22
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

The Cypher System is great for everything, but especially underdog scenarios like yours. It also helps the GM be a participant in the game rather than an adversary or a god. It’s such a rich, rewarding system.

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egregiousRac piefed.social phailhaus@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-09
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

I hear good stuff about Blades in the Dark, but I'm not too familiar with it. I wonder if that would work.

BitD is extremely focused on thief/assassin gameplay. It's nicely setting-agnostic, but it isn't a system suited to rural gameplay.

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voxthefox lemmy.blahaj.zone voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-05-05
#8 · Quote Reply

Check out legend in the mist, new system that just dropped recently. Seems like this would mesh well with the rustic fantasy motif it has going on and its also easily adaptable

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Alexstarfire lemmy.world Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#10 · Quote Reply

The Cypher System is great for everything, but especially underdog scenarios like yours. It also helps the GM be a participant in the game rather than an adversary or a god. It’s such a rich, rewarding system.

This! Such a fantastic system for storytelling by the players rather than against them (fuckin' Gygax), and years before its time, too. 🤘🏼

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wyldrstallyns lemmy.dbzer0.com wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Pathfinder 2E has a very similar power curve as D&D 5E. In fact, it might even be worse for Brancalonia as characters basically get their level as a flat bonus on everything.

If your bonis flat, talk to your doctor.

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Dr_Fetus_Jackson lemmy.world Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#12 · Quote Reply

If your bonis flat, talk to your doctor.

If bonis not flat for more than four hours, talk to your doctor.

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Miyagiyoda dice.camp Miyagiyoda@dice.camp
Joined: 2020-10-12
#13 · Quote Reply

@juergen_hubert Fire Ruby's Warlock! which is a WHFRP retroclone. The style matches Brancalonia much better.

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adb lemmy.ml adb@lemmy.ml
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Pathfinder 2E has a very similar power curve as D&D 5E. In fact, it might even be worse for Brancalonia as characters basically get their level as a flat bonus on everything.

There’s a rule variant called proficiency without level which removes the flat bonus.

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tormeh discuss.tchncs.de tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-15
#15 · (edited) Quote Reply

The Cypher System is great for everything, but especially underdog scenarios like yours. It also helps the GM be a participant in the game rather than an adversary or a god. It’s such a rich, rewarding system.

Gotta say I got the opposite feeling when I DMed it a while back. It's a clumsy system that badly needs a 2nd edition where they fix all the papercuts. I remember it being particularly unnecessary how the difficulty number has to be multiplied by 3 before you can use it. Just have the scale be from 3 to 30 to begin with so I don't have to remember what numbers are pre- and post-multiplication.

That said, it is somewhat easier to DM than 5e (which itself is heavily simplified compared to older systems).

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tormeh discuss.tchncs.de tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de
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#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'd maybe go the other way and embrace the comedy. Use Powered by the Apocalypse in the same way Pasion de las Pasiones does. Replace the soap opera elements with whips made out of spaghetti or something.

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Simon_Shitewood lemmy.ml Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml
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Pathfinder 2E has a very similar power curve as D&D 5E. In fact, it might even be worse for Brancalonia as characters basically get their level as a flat bonus on everything.

PF2e has proficiency without level for a grittier experience, but even then I don't think it's the best option for low lives and ne'er-do-wells unless you limit it to about level 3. Might be worth looking at Hopefinder, which is a PF2e hack, but the default setting is a zombie apocalypse and I think it relies a lot on short stories.

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Astatine ttrpg.network Astatine@ttrpg.network
Joined: 2025-03-08
#18 · Quote Reply

Probably start by forking from WFRP 2nd edition. You'd have to strip out the Warhammer setting specifics, but it works well for a game of underdog antihero adventurers in a late mediaeval/early modern setting.

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Inucune lemmy.world Inucune@lemmy.world
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Rolling for shoes can be applied to any setting

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divineburke sh.itjust.works divineburke@sh.itjust.works
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#20 · Quote Reply

BitD is extremely focused on thief/assassin gameplay. It's nicely setting-agnostic, but it isn't a system suited to rural gameplay.

I haven't looked into it but there are two other games that exist in the system. I immediately thought of "Band of Blades" which is a low fantasy bandit setting. It's an assumption but might be an alternative

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Scallops ttrpg.network Scallops@ttrpg.network
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#21 · Quote Reply

Cortex Prime. Extremely hackable, nearly impossible to break. Powerful to reinforce flavor with mechanics (which is what I think you're going after). Simple mechanics (if you don't go ham with the Mods).

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