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cm0002
lemdro.id
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
Haha, I feel this. One thing I want to mention is that with GPT you can add a bunch of global settings to craft the kinds of responses you get. It helps a lot with that first DATA response, FWIW. |
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okwhateverdude
lemmy.world
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-01 |
Man, this is doin' Data so wrong |
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Elting
piefed.social
Elting@piefed.social Joined: 2025-11-18 |
Haha, I feel this. One thing I want to mention is that with GPT you can add a bunch of global settings to craft the kinds of responses you get. It helps a lot with that first DATA response, FWIW.
I stopped trying to use GPT back in 2023 after I tried using it to research something for the first time. |
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gigastasio
sh.itjust.works
gigastasio@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2025-10-13 |
“If you like, I can suggest other defensive strategies, or I can begin contacting the families of the crewmembers that were blown into the vacuum of space. Shall I do that now?” |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
I stopped trying to use GPT back in 2023 after I tried using it to research something for the first time.
I know very little about the history of the project, but I feel pretty confident in saying that it's come a long way since then. I mainly use it these days for complex searches which would be useless in Google. I must say, it's really great at understanding nuance and pulling information from a bunch of sources. Maybe ~90+% success rate for that, while Google's built in AI for searches is hilariously inept about a third of the time. My current takeaway is basically: 'get to know where its strengths are, while avoiding its wonky areas.' |
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rozodru
piefed.world
rozodru@piefed.worldJoined: 2026-02-06 |
GEORDI: Data we have a coolent leak! the warp core is going to breach in a matter of seconds! DATA: This is a known issue... |
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Elting
piefed.social
Elting@piefed.social Joined: 2025-11-18 |
I know very little about the history of the project, but I feel pretty confident in saying that it's come a long way since then. I mainly use it these days for complex searches which would be useless in Google. I must say, it's really great at understanding nuance and pulling information from a bunch of sources. Maybe ~90+% success rate for that, while Google's built in AI for searches is hilar...
If they ever get around to changing fundamentally how it works, I'll give it another try. I don't like having to second guess everything it says, defeats the entire purpose of trying to use it If I have to verify everything. We made a similar but pared down output generator in college once, that worked in essentially the same way. We fed it a bunch of Freida Khala poems so all it would output was strange fragments of those. But that experience taught me, perhaps too well, how these things work under the hood. I can't imagine how many guardrails and parameters they have set up just to get it functional. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
If they ever get around to changing fundamentally how it works, I'll give it another try. I don't like having to second guess everything it says, defeats the entire purpose of trying to use it If I have to verify everything. We made a similar but pared down output generator in college once, that worked in essentially the same way. We fed it a bunch of Freida Khala poems so all it would output w...
I doubt OpenAI will fundamentally change how GPT works, but you never know. Possibly the next gen of LLM's will learn from the failings of this generation and be fundamentally constructed better. Not saying I don't realise the cost, either. Better LLM's will arguably have a much worse outcome for humanity. I'm just talking here about personal ways to get some use out of them. I actually started writing an article about how this might help in brainstorming sketches, but I'm probably not going to ever finish / publish it. |
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Elting
piefed.social
Elting@piefed.social Joined: 2025-11-18 |
I doubt OpenAI will fundamentally change how GPT works, but you never know. Possibly the next gen of LLM's will learn from the failings of this generation and be fundamentally constructed better. Not saying I don't realise the cost, either. Better LLM's will arguably have a much worse outcome for humanity. I'm just talking here about personal ways to get some use out of them. I actually started...
For applications like language translation they're the best automated tools we have. But its too little to justify how over extended the investment into it is. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
For applications like language translation they're the best automated tools we have. But its too little to justify how over extended the investment into it is.
Would DeepL actually be considered an LLM? |
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Elting
piefed.social
Elting@piefed.social Joined: 2025-11-18 |
Would DeepL actually be considered an LLM?
The wikipedia page says that exactly how they work is proprietary, so who really knows. |
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TheTechnician27
lemmy.world
TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-25 |
Would DeepL actually be considered an LLM?
Yes. An LLM is just a model trained on a large corpus of text, which DeepL absolutely is. It uses a transformer architecture – which literally could not work without it. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
Yes. An LLM is just a model trained on a large corpus of text, which DeepL absolutely is. It uses a transformer architecture – which literally could not work without it.
Thanks. And it's indeed very good from my experience. Google Translate has the pronunciation database (a separate project) and the ability to translate from whole images, but it's pretty clearly not as good. |
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stoy
lemmy.zip
stoy@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-10-17 |
Haha, I feel this. One thing I want to mention is that with GPT you can add a bunch of global settings to craft the kinds of responses you get. It helps a lot with that first DATA response, FWIW.
I stopped using AI chatbots when I realized that I was loosing my skills as an IT guy. This is my biggest issue with AI today, that we are replacing skills and knowledge with a statistics based chatbot. |
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TankovayaDiviziya
lemmy.world
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-22 |
Don't even compare Data with the pos LLM that we have. |
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not_woody_shaw
lemmy.world
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I know very little about the history of the project, but I feel pretty confident in saying that it's come a long way since then. I mainly use it these days for complex searches which would be useless in Google. I must say, it's really great at understanding nuance and pulling information from a bunch of sources. Maybe ~90+% success rate for that, while Google's built in AI for searches is hilar...
That's when you notice it being hilariously inept. It actually worse than that, but in areas you're not expert enough to notice. |
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lemmylommy
lemmy.world
lemmylommy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
I know very little about the history of the project, but I feel pretty confident in saying that it's come a long way since then. I mainly use it these days for complex searches which would be useless in Google. I must say, it's really great at understanding nuance and pulling information from a bunch of sources. Maybe ~90+% success rate for that, while Google's built in AI for searches is hilar...
Sometimes it gives you sources that don’t have anything close to what it attributes to them. So you have to always be careful and double check. It also still likes to make things up when it does not know the answer. Weasel words like „usually“ are a good indicator of that, although sometimes it uses them despite having solid sources and a definitive answer. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
Google's built in AI for searches is hilariously inept about a third of the time. That's when you notice it being hilariously inept. It actually worse than that, but in areas you're not expert enough to notice.
Quite true, which is why I try to double-check whatever the output is, and of course read all the other results, comparing and contrasting. One must do this with news and loads of other data, so it's at least a developed skill. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
Sometimes it gives you sources that don’t have anything close to what it attributes to them. So you have to always be careful and double check. It also still likes to make things up when it does not know the answer. Weasel words like „usually“ are a good indicator of that, although sometimes it uses them despite having solid sources and a definitive answer.
To me, GPT is like having a buddy who's both a knowledge hound and a master bullshitter. Always keep that in mind, and it'll be much more useful as the tool that it is. And IME, training it over time greatly helps with such hallucinations and 'confidently incorrect' stuff. In a way, it's not unlike carefully curating a feed over time. |
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lemmy.world
JDPoZ@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Pretty sure they stole the concept from this webcomic posted on BlueSky a year or so ago…
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NoneOfUrBusiness
fedia.io
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-06-13 |
Nothing about this is stealing, though. That's, assuming they're even related, inspiration. |
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QueenHawlSera
sh.itjust.works
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-05 |
I stopped trying to use GPT back in 2023 after I tried using it to research something for the first time.
This, I use Gemini occasionally when I just need some pony to talk to, but ChatGPT I've caught it lying too me too many damn times. |
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Grail
multiverse.soulism.net
Grail@multiverse.soulism.netJoined: 2026-01-14 |
Quite true, which is why I try to double-check whatever the output is, and of course read all the other results, comparing and contrasting. One must do this with news and loads of other data, so it's at least a developed skill.
That sounds like a lot of work. I just fucking do the research Myself instead of asking an incompetent machine I don't trust. |
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JohnnyEnzyme
piefed.social
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-11 |
That sounds like a lot of work. I just fucking do the research Myself instead of asking an incompetent machine I don't trust.
Regardless of using AI tools or not, there's always a variety of information to sift through if you want to research something and get a solid, full spectrum result. If an LLM can save me time in that process, then great. If it can't, then there's no point in asking it. |
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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
lemmy.world
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Why are they wearing the unused Star Trek: Generations uniforms? |
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rosco385
lemmy.wtf
rosco385@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Good artists borrow; Great artists steal. |
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Leviathan
lemmy.world
Leviathan@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Haha, I feel this. One thing I want to mention is that with GPT you can add a bunch of global settings to craft the kinds of responses you get. It helps a lot with that first DATA response, FWIW.
I find that if I never use it at all it really helps with the first and every other response. |
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starman2112
sh.itjust.works
starman2112@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-08-10 |
This, I use Gemini occasionally when I just need some pony to talk to, but ChatGPT I've caught it lying too me too many damn times.
Not sure if that was a typo, but /) |
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MonkderVierte
lemmy.zip
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-05-30 |
Why are they wearing the unused Star Trek: Generations uniforms?
But they wear them, so they're used... |
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QueenHawlSera
sh.itjust.works
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-05 |
Not sure if that was a typo, but /)
If what was a typo? |
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starman2112
sh.itjust.works
starman2112@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-08-10 |
If what was a typo?
"Some pony" It's rare running into bronies/pegasisters these days |
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