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Flathub moves to ban nearly all apps and submissions made with generative AI
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Dan Simmons lemmy.linuxuserspace.show monetaryabyss@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show
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minfapper piefed.social minfapper@piefed.social
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Maybe if they took security even remotely seriously and made a functioning sandbox (that apps can't trivially opt themselves out of), we wouldn't have to care whether an app was AI generated or not.

Yes, containers/sandboxes have vulnerabilities that really clever attackers can exploit, but AI generated slop can't.

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usernamesAreTricky lemmy.ml usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-01
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Maybe if they took security even remotely seriously and made a functioning sandbox (that apps can't trivially opt themselves out of), we wouldn't have to care whether an app was AI generated or not. Yes, containers/sandboxes have vulnerabilities that really clever attackers can exploit, but AI generated slop can't.

Speaking broadly: Plenty of other issues or security vulnerabilities can exist that a good sandbox won't catch. Like software can insecurely store and transmit passwords, have bad randomness for something security sensitive, secretly be mining crypto behind the scenes and burn through battery/electricity, etc.

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SupraMario lemmy.world SupraMario@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
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Maybe if they took security even remotely seriously and made a functioning sandbox (that apps can't trivially opt themselves out of), we wouldn't have to care whether an app was AI generated or not. Yes, containers/sandboxes have vulnerabilities that really clever attackers can exploit, but AI generated slop can't.

Yes, containers/sandboxes have vulnerabilities that really clever attackers can exploit, but AI generated slop can't.

Wait are you suggesting that AI slop code can't have vulnerabilities? Cause... that's hilariously not even remotely true. It's a huge issue in SecOps, it was even an issue in the past when humans didn't have a "easy" button and every vibe coder dumped commits. It's way worse now because a lot of the vibe coded shit isn't checked, and the people who produce it have no clue what the fuck it does in the first place.

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lelgenio lemmy.ml lelgenio@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-06-01
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Yes, containers/sandboxes have vulnerabilities that really clever attackers can exploit, but AI generated slop can't. Wait are you suggesting that AI slop code can't have vulnerabilities? Cause... that's hilariously not even remotely true. It's a huge issue in SecOps, it was even an issue in the past when humans didn't have a "easy" button and every vibe coder dumped commits. It's way worse now...

Wait are you suggesting that AI slop code can't have vulnerabilities?

I think they mean "containers can have security vulnerabilities, but you need to be cleaver to exploit them, AI slop is not clever enough to exploit those vulnerabilities"

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kurcatovium piefed.social kurcatovium@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-19
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Wait are you suggesting that AI slop code can't have vulnerabilities? I think they mean "containers can have security vulnerabilities, but you need to be cleaver to exploit them, AI slop is not clever enough to exploit those vulnerabilities"

But AI slop probably introduces plenty of new vulnerabilities, right?

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lelgenio lemmy.ml lelgenio@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-06-01
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But AI slop probably introduces plenty of new vulnerabilities, right?

Yes? Banning it form Flathub is a good thing

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Maybe if they took security even remotely seriously and made a functioning sandbox (that apps can't trivially opt themselves out of), we wouldn't have to care whether an app was AI generated or not. Yes, containers/sandboxes have vulnerabilities that really clever attackers can exploit, but AI generated slop can't.

took security even remotely seriously

There's a reason they're at SLSA1 . And this is it.

Plot twist: SLSA4 has been achievable since like 1998. Sit DOWN, Debian.

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Wait are you suggesting that AI slop code can't have vulnerabilities? I think they mean "containers can have security vulnerabilities, but you need to be cleaver to exploit them, AI slop is not clever enough to exploit those vulnerabilities"

cleaver

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hperrin lemmy.ca hperrin@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-12-13
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That’s some good news.

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lelgenio lemmy.ml lelgenio@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-06-01
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cleaver

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