alternative video upload: https://streamable.com/e/phqqjs

What the actual fuck? The dude with the dog needs to be brought up in charges, and the rest need to be suspended. That was completely uncalled for.

Just thought he'd cause a fucken miscarriage because a pregnant woman shoo'd away another pig's grip.

Afd fuck

ACAB

I was going to say, you can say that again, so I will!

ACAB

This is insane what the fuck. Thank god I left that shithole.

Attempted murder of the fetus by the cop and justified defense of other by the husband.

The EU is not far from the US in many aspects. The actions are just more subtile and the propaganda is better.

No charges. Baldy needs to be hanged and stoned.

Yeah, propaganda yourself out of that....

Dutch police.

Where'd you go? I'm looking to leave, I recently researched a place in Italy where 350k could buy me a 520m2 villa while here in the Netherlands I can't even afford the smallest apartments that are now crossing the 400k mark.

Please, explain to me what you mean?

I never said it's as bad as in the US, but I have worked with immigrants and I have seen things.

Also there is a lot of normalisation going on. Here is a good example.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c86vpq42dl0o

That is an article from not even a month ago. The EU operates it's border forces more at the exterior, but they are there doing all kinds of things that are violating humans rights daily.

The EU is not that shining beacon of liberty that most people think it is. It's a bunch of nation states that do nation state things.

What i wanted to say was: How can you propaganda yourself out of that?

A policeman walks to a pregnant woman and pulls her and she falls on the ground. On her back luckily.

Even if you cite the most niche law that somehow justifies this i will side with the woman.

Even the dog thought that was a bad idea.

I read some dutch news articles on this, and the propaganda is just insane. They all just quote the police spokesperson:

“The woman was pulled after which she fell to the ground”

“The police wanted to act quickly in a dynamic situation”

“The video only shows a part of the story”

“We have to look at the exact order of events”

But the good news: the police is gonna do an internal investigation.

The police is just a legal gang that protects the property rights of the elite.

I totally misunderstood your comment, sorry.

Most people won't see it and if this can't be put under the rug you will have a lot of newspapers who will happily come up with excuses why this was necessary.

The constant stream of "Muslims equals terrorists, most Palestinians are Muslims, therefore they are terrorists" helps a lot there.

And people want to be on the majority side which they identify as "good".

Also you shouldn't underestimate the fear factor.
If people admit that this was unnecessary police violence, they suddenly realise that nothing is stopping the police of doing that to them. So to calm their anxiety they will either say " immigrants, they shouldn't be here in the first place" or "there must be more to that story, that we don't see/know".

Dog dude is being clearly neglectful,
but the others were fine imo, they were in the process of arresting him, and the guy did resist arrest to go punch that cop

There is no escape to capitalism. You can maybe escape west fascism by moving to some part of Asia (no Japan or bad Korea). Please don’t inflate Italian housing market, it’s already catastrophic for our purchasing power.

for the hogs: I live in via della Camiluccia in Rome. Come and get me fuckfaces.

close enough

Why do the Dutch have this air of exclusivity and superiority about them?

Yep, EU jingoism is on the rise. There's unfortunately quite a lot of it here on Lemmy. It reminds me of the tankies - America bad so EU must be good.

Neglectful? Either you don’t know what the word means or you are a 🐖🚓 I go for the second one.

Money + racism.

“Dam, if I do have so much money clearly it means I’m so much better than anyone else. Everyone else is wrong, my country is perfect.”

True.

Did you not just see a policeman grab and throw his pregnant wife to the ground?

Would you not react to your pregnant wife being assaulted like that!?

He was totally in the right to pull her away, she should have been removed from that situation before the guy even started filming. That should be obvious to any reasonable person.

But the guy was wayyy to aggressive and threw/tripped her (neglecting her safety)

Nazi German pigs

"We have opened an investigation. Please stop asking questions"

6 months later:

Is there anyplace in the world that doesnt have lowest common denominators just itching to brutalize and murder in positions of law enforcement?

That's how they got the job.

Italy? The country with an openly fascist prime minister?...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgia_Meloni

WE FOUND THE HOG. OIK OIK 🐽 pathetic

Nowhere that has hierarchy, and therefore power and wealth held in the hands of a few to pay others to commit violence on their behalf.

But who are the police and the soldiers who protect the capitalists against you, against the people?

If they were capitalists themselves, then it would stand to reason why they want to protect the wealth they have stolen, and why they try to keep up, even by force, the system that gives them the privilege of robbing the people.

But the police and the soldiers, the defenders of ‘law and order’, are not of the capitalist class. They are men from the ranks of the people, poor men who for pay protect the very system that keeps them poor. It is unbelievable, is it not? Yet it is true. It just comes down to this: some of the slaves protect their masters in keeping them and the rest of the people in slavery. In the same way Great Britain, for instance, keeps the Hindoos in India in subjection by a police force of the natives, of the Hindoos themselves. Or as Belgium does with the black men in the Congo. Or as any government does with a subjugated people.

It is the same system.

Here is what it amounts to: Capitalism robs and exploits the whole of the people; the laws legalize and uphold this capitalist robbery; the government uses one part of the people to aid and protect the capitalists in robbing the whole of the people. The entire thing is kept up by educating the people to believe that capitalism is right, that the law is just, and that the government must be obeyed. Do you see through this game now?

from Now and After by Alexander Berkman, Chapter 3: Law and Government. Available to read for free here.

Bro who talks like this?
Either you’re still a child, then go off, be as cringe as you want.
But otherwise, you just sound a bit mentally impaired 😬

Can you only call people pigs when they push back? 🪱

This was intentional escalation. That is NOT how you police. The guy put himself and his team in an unnecessarily dangerous situation.

The video only shows a part of the story”

There is many of those idiots on lemmy in fuckinginsanevideos. It is always used stricly when it is about Palestine

They don't even bother saying that. The investigations probably never happen to begin with

The guys with the police dogs are always so twitchy and violent. It's like they absorb their own dog's attack training.

Yeah.. the cop was being too agressive and pulled her to the ground..

Does that give you the right to go punch him? Are we fighting for womens honor again?
She wasn’t in any danger was she? Or was the cop going to sic the dog on her?

https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/torture-in-italy-new-sentence-by-the-echr/12367

Yeah, I agree, the cop was way out of line with how he handled her

If you want to know what kind of people will be in a job, on average, consider what the job incentivizes and how that might appeal to the motives of different kinds of people.

Law enforcement ostensibly promotes an image of community service and protection. So you will find people that wish to do those things seeking to become police officers.

But the reality is that police work itself, policies, and legal protections for officers is far more focused on the state sanctioned use of force, the strict adherence to laws for citizenry but far more lax enforcement on officers themselves, and the authority of command given to officers in interactions with them. So for someone who wants to posture as a tough guy, to dominate over people with legal authority, to commit acts of violence with little, if any, consequence for themselves or recourse for he victim, and to remain in good standing in much of society because of the aforementioned promoted image, it serves those desires too.

And due to the us vs them mentality, the lack of liability, and the tight community formed just within law enforcement and those who work directly with them (prosecutors/DAs, judges, mayors, etc) that do not hold each other accountable unless they do something to violate that community (like reporting abuse of authority, excessive force, gross negligence, etc. on fellow officers), then the police culture itself incentives pushing out the cops with good intentions that may stir up "trouble" in the community in favor of those who will allow or actively propagate corruption and collusion.

If a job incentivizes and/or protects aggression, violence, and pretty crime, don't be shocked when it's full of aggressive, violent, petty criminals.

I've seen so many police brutality videos. They never get easier. Fuck.

Nah yall are just ten years behind like always.

Pregnant woman thrown to ground:

She wasn’t in any danger was she?

The kind of goldfish brained, unhinged realities people live in...

"Male bullies become cops, female bullies become nurses" is something I hear often and it makes sense. Power over vulnerable people attracts these specimen. Are ALL in these professions like that? Of course not but probably a higher average than in other fields.

Once violence is escalated different reactions need to be expected and countered appropriately to de-escalate. Its not defending womens honour, there are two highly unequal groups interacting here, which exposes the weak group (the couple) to greater risk of duress.

The cop escalated unpredictably and violently with little the others doing in the moments between to reduce that threat. The other implicitly gave their acceptance of this new level of violence and unpredictability in those fractional moments. Due to the disparity in power between the cops and the couple that escalation and those few moments become extremely dangerous.

The situation would have been very different if one of the other cops had checked the dog guy and told him to take a walk down the hall a few paces. Breaking that momentary rush of blood to the head is often all thats needed to halt severe forms of violence occuring.

Literally fuck all cops everywhere.

Minimizing police brutality is a bad look bro

What the dog cop did was uncalled for, I have said it before. There’s not really much else to say than dog guy too agressive