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Microsoft revokes Office 2019 perpetual licenses, then edits their website to gaslight customers.
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ExtremeDullard piefed.social ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
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reference to this, i'm guessing:
https://appleinsider.com/articles/26/05/28/microsoft-is-killing-office-2019-for-mac-and-iphone-and-you-cant-do-much-about-it

apparently it's due to an expiring digital certificate. this older version is 'end of life' and because it isn't receiving updates anymore, microsoft's lust for profits says it won't get a renewed certificate either.

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InfiniteGlitch lemmy.dbzer0.com ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-30
#3 · Quote Reply

Just use Massgrave for Microsoft stuff.

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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-05-29
#4 · Quote Reply

Just use Massgrave for Microsoft stuff.

someone with an affected version would have to try that, but i'm guessing if legit perpetual 2019 licenses are dead upon expiry of that certificate, mas won't help either. moving to 2021 or newer won't work either, as the affected users' macos version won't support newer office versions.

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atro_city fedia.io atro_city@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-08-05
#5 · Quote Reply

Same video on Odysee which you can easily use in the browser or in GrayJay.

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BlackLaZoR lemmy.world BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-26
#6 · Quote Reply

Two words: Libre Office

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lemming741 lemmy.world lemming741@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#7 · Quote Reply

Gotta get those CoPilot numbers up

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#8 · Quote Reply

Two words: Libre Office

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Also, if anyone out there's wanting to learn about other ways to get away from paying for subs, I did a series of videos on this earlier this year.

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abrake lemmy.world abrake@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#9 · Quote Reply

I am altering the license; pray I do not alter it any further. - Microsoft

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AlecSadler lemmy.dbzer0.com AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-01-03
#10 · Quote Reply

Two words: Libre Office

I've been OOL for awhile, is LO the new hotness and OO is out?

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ironycanal lemmy.dbzer0.com ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-05-15
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Abso-fucking-lutely. Also, if anyone out there's wanting to learn about other ways to get away from paying for subs, I did a series of videos on this earlier this year.

Any chance you have a text version?

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CandleTiger programming.dev CandleTiger@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-09
#12 · Quote Reply

I've been OOL for awhile, is LO the new hotness and OO is out?

Yes that is correct. You have been out of the loop for a very long time.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

Any chance you have a text version?

EDIT: Posted the text list of the alternatives lower in the thread.

Yes. The description in each video has chapters in the description telling you application or software names, for the TLDW crowd.

But I can write up a quick list if you life. Happy to do it.

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AlecSadler lemmy.dbzer0.com AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-01-03
#14 · Quote Reply

Yes that is correct. You have been out of the loop for a very long time.

I got sucked into 10+ years of Microsoft-centric corpo gigs. Womp.

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ironycanal lemmy.dbzer0.com ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-05-15
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EDIT: Posted the text list of the alternatives lower in the thread. Yes. The description in each video has chapters in the description telling you application or software names, for the TLDW crowd. But I can write up a quick list if you life. Happy to do it.

A text version where I don't need to load any video seems a lot more useful. Not that your face isn't adorable.

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Janx piefed.social Janx@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-12-19
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I've been OOL for awhile, is LO the new hotness and OO is out?

Yeah. No offense (because not everyone can pay attention to everything, for various reasons), but it's been the most popular open-source office suite for at least the past decade.

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حمید پیام عباسی crazypeople.online hamid@crazypeople.online
Joined: 2025-10-24
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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

A text version where I don't need to load any video seems a lot more useful. Not that your face isn't adorable.

Okay, here's the abridged version of my 'Stop Paying For' series. I hope something here is new to you and helps you give the billionaires a kick in the dick. Happy to write it out because I hate billionaires that much, but if this is useful to anyone out there, I'd appreciate a like on one of my videos. Being a small creator who vocally supports FOSS/alternative apps is tough.

Euro Alternative Apps (To Divest from US Apps)

  • Proton
  • Qwant
  • Mastodon
  • Threema

Spotify Alternatives

  • Metrolist
  • Outertune

Cheaper Video Games

  • Weekly Free Games on Epic
  • Key Resellers (G2A/Loaded, but use at your own risk)
  • Humble Bundle

Netflix Alternatives

  • Tubi
  • Hoopla Digital
  • Kanopy

FOSS Software

  • Linux
  • LibreOffice (MS Office Replacement)
  • qBittorent (Torrent Client)
  • VLC Media Player
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Disaffected Scorpio lemmy.world WiseScorpio@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-17
#19 · Quote Reply

I try to use LibreOffice but my company uses SentinelOne and flags LibreOffice as malware and quarantines my files. I have to place a ticket to get my files back.

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-13
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I've been OOL for awhile, is LO the new hotness and OO is out?

open office kinda went out when oracle took them over. yeah it was handed to apache but by that time libre was the standard.

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bss03 infosec.pub bss03@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-10-02
#21 · Quote Reply

Okay, here's the abridged version of my 'Stop Paying For' series. I hope something here is new to you and helps you give the billionaires a kick in the dick. Happy to write it out because I hate billionaires that much, but if this is useful to anyone out there, I'd appreciate a like on one of my videos. Being a small creator who vocally supports FOSS/alternative apps is tough. Euro Alternative ...

I wish I could send users a dollar as easily as hitting the updoot button. Keep being awesome.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#22 · Quote Reply

I wish I could send users a dollar as easily as hitting the updoot button. Keep being awesome.

Happy to help. Thank you for the kind words!

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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-05-29
#23 · Quote Reply

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but affected macs that are still running office 2019 have serria or high serria, and can't run libreoffice (current requires os11)

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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-05-29
#24 · Quote Reply

I've been OOL for awhile, is LO the new hotness and OO is out?

apache has all but let openoffice go. there's, i think, like one guy that works on it occasionally.

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ParlimentOfDoom piefed.zip ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-26
#25 · Quote Reply

Yes that is correct. You have been out of the loop for a very long time.

Except libreoffice is pretty crap. Especially their spreadsheet program.

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dunestorm lemmy.world dunestorm@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#26 · Quote Reply

We have No Killing Games, now wet me need No Killing Software…

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smeenz lemmy.nz smeenz@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-07-11
#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

but affected macs that are still running office 2019 have serria or high serria, and can't run libreoffice (current requires os11)

I think you meant sierra...

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smeenz lemmy.nz smeenz@lemmy.nz
Joined: 2023-07-11
#28 · Quote Reply

I've been OOL for awhile, is LO the new hotness and OO is out?

From Wikipedia:

"Oracle OpenOffice" is a discontinued office productivity suite. Originally acquired by Oracle through their purchase of Sun Microsystems in 2009, the project was officially discontinued in 2011 when Oracle laid off the development team and donated the code to the Apache Software Foundation.

The Fork to LibreOffice: In 2010, the majority of the original volunteer developers left Oracle to form The Document Foundation, creating a fork named LibreOffice. LibreOffice has since become the standard, actively maintained open-source office suite.

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RouxBru lemmy.world RouxBru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-01
#29 · Quote Reply

I try to use LibreOffice but my company uses SentinelOne and flags LibreOffice as malware and quarantines my files. I have to place a ticket to get my files back.

You have my sympathies, That is one hot piece of garbage

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AeonFelis lemmy.world AeonFelis@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#30 · Quote Reply

We have No Killing Games, now wet me need No Killing Software…

Not really. People should be encouraged, after seeing how bad the software provider treats them, to switch to open source - or at least to software of less shitty companies. You can't do that with games - each game is a unique^1 piece of art and culture.

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LaLuzDelSol lemmy.world LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-17
#31 · Quote Reply

You know whats really weird? Office 2019 just went on sale a few weeks ago.

https://www.techspot.com/news/100909-get-microsoft-office-29-one-time-purchase.html

It's like Microsoft wanted to squeeze a few extra dollars out of customers. But id be pissed if I bought it and found out it was being locked down 3 weeks later...

Although to be clear only the Mac version is being discontinued. For now.

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Ostfriesentee feddit.org ennof@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-19
#32 · Quote Reply

Except libreoffice is pretty crap. Especially their spreadsheet program.

They're looking to optimize the project for collaborative working, browsers and smartphones. I reckon the UI might see some modernization, as well.

https://www.heise.de/news/Kurswechsel-LibreOffice-fuer-Browser-und-Smartphone-kommt-11309343.html

Alternatively, Euro-Office could be of interest.
It's going to be much more modern and is to ship with most of the comfort Microsoft Office has. Euro-Office is a reviewed and improved OnlyOffice (a Russian project) fork. It was forked to avoid potential Russian influence on it. The first stable version will be available from June 9th 2026, next week. Not finished yet, though.

https://www.computerbase.de/news/apps/euro-office-europaeische-alternative-zu-office365-startet-am-09-juni.97589/

Sources in German, apologies.

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theacrat lemmy.world theacrat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-31
#33 · Quote Reply

I'm glad I've entirely moved away from Microsoft products. Worst of the worst.

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thlibos thelemmy.club thlibos@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#34 · Quote Reply

Okay, here's the abridged version of my 'Stop Paying For' series. I hope something here is new to you and helps you give the billionaires a kick in the dick. Happy to write it out because I hate billionaires that much, but if this is useful to anyone out there, I'd appreciate a like on one of my videos. Being a small creator who vocally supports FOSS/alternative apps is tough. Euro Alternative ...

Have a like on all your videos...

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
#35 · Quote Reply

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I’ve have LibreOffice for over a decade, had OpenOffice before that. Haven’t needed MS Office for anything near 20 years now.

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Texas_Hangover lemmy.radio Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio
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#36 · Quote Reply

but affected macs that are still running office 2019 have serria or high serria, and can't run libreoffice (current requires os11)

Yet another reason, I aint got a mac.

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NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ lemmy.world NikkiDimes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#37 · Quote Reply

You know whats really weird? Office 2019 just went on sale a few weeks ago. https://www.techspot.com/news/100909-get-microsoft-office-29-one-time-purchase.html It's like Microsoft wanted to squeeze a few extra dollars out of customers. But id be pissed if I bought it and found out it was being locked down 3 weeks later... Although to be clear only the Mac version is being discontinued. For now.

Honestly, as much as I want to shit on Microsoft, this is probably more a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. They're a massive disorganized mess of a company.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-21
#38 · Quote Reply

you know I was about to buy licenses for some software from microslop. seeing as they clearly disregard their responsibilities upholding the agreements they make, I have no reason to believe they'll continue to do so for any of their licensed software.

makes it easy for me. I'll just pirate it.

thanks microslop!

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guitarfosec infosec.pub guitarfosec@infosec.pub
Joined: 2025-01-22
#39 · Quote Reply

Except libreoffice is pretty crap. Especially their spreadsheet program.

I tried using LibreOffice Calc when I was working on my OSCP and some of the basic functionality was so broken it was almost laughable. I think my text was pasting in as an image sometimes? I forget the exact details but it was unusable for my purposes and I decided to try again in a few years.

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xx_punished_wolf_xx lemmy.dbzer0.com mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-16
#40 · Quote Reply

someone call Louis Rossman !

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mojofrododojo lemmy.world mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-25
#41 · Quote Reply

Honestly, as much as I want to shit on Microsoft, this is probably more a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. They're a massive disorganized mess of a company.

pfft AI is improving everything, how can you say this?

I wonder if that divison's copilot ran out of tokens. That's probably the issue.

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ayyy sh.itjust.works ayyy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-20
#42 · Quote Reply

We have No Killing Games, now wet me need No Killing Software…

Yea, that’s the end goal. It’s a smart way to run a political campaign using relatable concrete problems that people face from abusive licensing policies in the software industry.

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sureshot0 discuss.online sureshot0@discuss.online
Joined: 2025-12-26
#43 · Quote Reply

you know I was about to buy licenses for some software from microslop. seeing as they clearly disregard their responsibilities upholding the agreements they make, I have no reason to believe they'll continue to do so for any of their licensed software. makes it easy for me. I'll just pirate it. thanks microslop!

Pirating software and living life on the edge

How do you do that without getting a virus?

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optimisticturtle lemmy.world optimisticturtle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-21
#44 · Quote Reply

someone call Louis Rossman !
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cheat700000007 lemmy.world cheat700000007@lemmy.world
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#45 · Quote Reply

someone call Louis Rossman !

Can't be bothered to go any further than the headline, eh?

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AllHailTheSheep sh.itjust.works AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-11
#46 · Quote Reply

Pirating software and living life on the edge How do you do that without getting a virus?

massgrave.dev

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glitch1985 lemmy.world glitch1985@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-09
#47 · Quote Reply

I'm glad I've entirely moved away from Microsoft products. Worst of the worst.

Amen! Nothing but Google here.

/s

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Lovable Sidekick lemmy.world LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-19
#48 · (edited) Quote Reply

"By perpetual we meant you can perpetually have them, not that they'll perpetually work."

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matlag sh.itjust.works matlag@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
#49 · Quote Reply

you know I was about to buy licenses for some software from microslop. seeing as they clearly disregard their responsibilities upholding the agreements they make, I have no reason to believe they'll continue to do so for any of their licensed software. makes it easy for me. I'll just pirate it. thanks microslop!

You do whatever you want with the resources and constrains you have.

But in my humble opinion, the best move would have been to migrate to LibreOffice and make a donation matching the MS Office license, or migrate to Collabora office (it's based on LO), or another opensource alternative.

Again: that may not be possible for you personnally, and I'm not judging. This is only to remind everyone there are alternatives out there.

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xx_punished_wolf_xx lemmy.dbzer0.com mortalblade@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-16
#50 · Quote Reply

Can't be bothered to go any further than the headline, eh?

o lol

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Wispy2891 lemmy.world Wispy2891@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#51 · Quote Reply

You know whats really weird? Office 2019 just went on sale a few weeks ago. https://www.techspot.com/news/100909-get-microsoft-office-29-one-time-purchase.html It's like Microsoft wanted to squeeze a few extra dollars out of customers. But id be pissed if I bought it and found out it was being locked down 3 weeks later... Although to be clear only the Mac version is being discontinued. For now.

That was not a real sale.

It's a fake article pretending that there's a sale in order to make affiliate money selling grey market keys from msdn. Those keys activate, but they don't come with a valid license to use, those are supposed for testing only on that specific msdn account.

It works like this: the fake tech blog gets 40%, the rest goes to the keys seller, Microsoft gets 0%.

Fuck Microsoft, but at that point is more ethical to just use massgrave and activate it for free

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