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☭SaltyIcetea☭ lemmy.ml SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
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A "Trade Offer" meme.  The background shows a man in a suit sitting in a room lit with purple lights, holding his hands together in a stereotypical "business deal" pose. Across the top is a red banner reading "TRADE OFFER".  On the left, under the text "i receive:", there is a graph titled "Window Manager statistics" showing the rapid growth of Hyprland inside the Arch userbase.  On the right, under the text "you receive:", there is a screenshot of multiple Hyprland configuration errors.  Vaxry's Profile picture (An anime-style portrait of a blond character) is placed over the man's face.

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_hovi_ lemmy.world _hovi_@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-25
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Honestly, how can there be breaking changes to the config this often. Need to move to niri or mango

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Pommes_für_dein_Balg feddit.org mech@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-10-06
#3 · Quote Reply

Honestly, how can there be breaking changes to the config this often. Need to move to niri or mango

The dev lists as features:

  • Fast and active development
  • Not afraid to provide bleeding-edge features

And includes a breaking changes tracker:
https://github.com/hyprwm/Hyprland/issues/8424

So yeah, use it if you are OK with that.

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Sludge sh.itjust.works Sludge@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-20
#4 · Quote Reply

Honestly, how can there be breaking changes to the config this often. Need to move to niri or mango

I am currently on hyprland, but previously tried to cutover to Niri and I had issues getting steam games to launch consistently. Has Niri gotten a bit easier to use while gaming? I tried maybe 5 months ago and just ended up staying on Hyprland because everything has been working without too many issues.

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_hovi_ lemmy.world _hovi_@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-25
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I am currently on hyprland, but previously tried to cutover to Niri and I had issues getting steam games to launch consistently. Has Niri gotten a bit easier to use while gaming? I tried maybe 5 months ago and just ended up staying on Hyprland because everything has been working without too many issues.

Havent done much gaming on it so I wouldn't know, but I hope so. Would probably be a deal breaker

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Doomguy lemmy.dbzer0.com Doomguy1364@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-14
#6 · Quote Reply

I've used hyprland for so long, but one of the updates broke being able to maintain direct scanout while screencasting a window. Used tearing for a bit instead.

But I finally went back to plasma after not using it for two years. And let me say, other than missing tiling, playing counter strike on KDE is always smooth and low input lag.

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thedormantotaku lemmy.world thedormantotaku@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-13
#7 · Quote Reply

I just use DMS+mangoWC setup that came with cachyos.

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exu feditown.com exu@feditown.com
Joined: 2023-09-29
#8 · Quote Reply

I've used hyprland for so long, but one of the updates broke being able to maintain direct scanout while screencasting a window. Used tearing for a bit instead. But I finally went back to plasma after not using it for two years. And let me say, other than missing tiling, playing counter strike on KDE is always smooth and low input lag.

Kröhnkite works pretty well for me to do tiling. Feels reasonably close to i3 with some config.

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ScytheDraven47 piefed.zip ScytheDraven47@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-25
#9 · (edited) Quote Reply

I am currently on hyprland, but previously tried to cutover to Niri and I had issues getting steam games to launch consistently. Has Niri gotten a bit easier to use while gaming? I tried maybe 5 months ago and just ended up staying on Hyprland because everything has been working without too many issues.

Using Niri on CachyOS with a RTX50 series GPU (which seems to have the most issues with latest games/drivers). I jump between dozens of games and only had issues with 3 so far:

  • Monster Hunter Wilds (was broken for a couple months earlier in the year, just a driver issue fixed by update)
  • Ghost of Tsushima (again broken by a single driver update -- haven't tried again cause fuck Sony)
  • Enshrouded (single driver update once again, fixed within a week)

So in my experience, yeah Niri is great for games. Especially having things fake-fullscreen while multitasking, jumping around between browser, Discord, etc

*Edit
Meant to add in contrast, Subnautica 2 launch day went perfectly, as did Windrose... So even new/early access seems absolutely fine.

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octobob lemmy.ml octobob@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-01
#10 · Quote Reply

About to risk it all and type yay && flatpak update ✊😔

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esc piefed.social esc@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-03-24
#11 · Quote Reply

I've used hyprland for so long, but one of the updates broke being able to maintain direct scanout while screencasting a window. Used tearing for a bit instead. But I finally went back to plasma after not using it for two years. And let me say, other than missing tiling, playing counter strike on KDE is always smooth and low input lag.

There are multiple tiling kwin scripts both manual, automatic, even scrolling.

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ScytheDraven47 piefed.zip ScytheDraven47@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-09-25
#12 · Quote Reply

I just use DMS+mangoWC setup that came with cachyos.

Ever tried replacing DMS with Noctalia? I much prefer it after Niri switched the default quickshellbut want to try MangoWC due to the different layout options

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memphis sopuli.xyz memphis@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-08-02
#13 · Quote Reply

I am currently on hyprland, but previously tried to cutover to Niri and I had issues getting steam games to launch consistently. Has Niri gotten a bit easier to use while gaming? I tried maybe 5 months ago and just ended up staying on Hyprland because everything has been working without too many issues.

I've been daily driving niri on my gaming PC for about as long as you've been away. The only problem I have now and then is games will run in tiled mode, while the game itself is fullscreen, so I'm only seeing the left half of the game. Mod+Shift+F has always fixed it so far, and it's rare enough that I haven't looked into making a window rule. I don't use Steam but I'm not sure that matters.

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sol6_vi lemmy.makearmy.io sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io
Joined: 2025-08-14
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rescue_toaster lemmy.zip rescue_toaster@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
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Sway...

I guess it's boring but it's never broken on me in the 5ish years I've been using it since switching from i3.

I read all this hype about hyprland but sway does what I want and need as a tiling window manager, and simply see no need to even try hyprland.

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alecsargent lemmy.zip alecsargent@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-13
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Sway... I guess it's boring but it's never broken on me in the 5ish years I've been using it since switching from i3. I read all this hype about hyprland but sway does what I want and need as a tiling window manager, and simply see no need to even try hyprland.

Hyprland has several practical features that Sway does not have. I have used both extensively and I stayed at Hyprland because of the following:

  • DynamicBSP layout
  • Moving windows without changing layout structure is easy
  • Special workspaces(scratch pads)
    • They can be toggled
    • One can launch apps when opened empty
    • They can automatically close when the last window closes.

Things Sway has that Hyprland does not:

  • Closing all windows contained in workspace
  • Moving all windows from one workspace to another

I have thought coming back to Sway because of the performance and because of Hyprland's the silly default wallpapers and splash screens, but those features hold me back.

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De Lancre lemmy.world de_lancre@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-08
#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

Using Niri on CachyOS with a RTX50 series GPU (which seems to have the most issues with latest games/drivers). I jump between dozens of games and only had issues with 3 so far: Monster Hunter Wilds (was broken for a couple months earlier in the year, just a driver issue fixed by update) Ghost of Tsushima (again broken by a single driver update -- haven't tried again cause fuck Sony) Enshrouded ...
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kartoffelsaft programming.dev kartoffelsaft@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-20
#18 · Quote Reply

I've used hyprland for so long, but one of the updates broke being able to maintain direct scanout while screencasting a window. Used tearing for a bit instead. But I finally went back to plasma after not using it for two years. And let me say, other than missing tiling, playing counter strike on KDE is always smooth and low input lag.

That was the opposite of my experience. For Minecraft at least I went from ~110 FPS in hyprland to ~80 in plasma. Felt like there was an extra frame or two of delay too, but I never measured.

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SingularEye lemmy.blahaj.zone SingularEye@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-13
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☭SaltyIcetea☭ lemmy.ml SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#20 · Quote Reply

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does that come with an explanation?

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87Six lemmy.zip 87Six@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-09-19
#21 · Quote Reply

damn I know that graphing library

It's pretty cool btw haha Though, I have no idea what it's called anymore.

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☭SaltyIcetea☭ lemmy.ml SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#22 · Quote Reply

damn I know that graphing library It's pretty cool btw haha Though, I have no idea what it's called anymore.

i just google something like "arch window manager usage"

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bisby lemmy.world bisby@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

does that come with an explanation?
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JamesBoeing737MAX sopuli.xyz JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-09-04
#24 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sway... I guess it's boring but it's never broken on me in the 5ish years I've been using it since switching from i3. I read all this hype about hyprland but sway does what I want and need as a tiling window manager, and simply see no need to even try hyprland.

I saw some cool features I'm kinda missing in river (especially the wide range of compatible tools and stability, performance) and I really want to like it.

I'd actually bother setting it up if it had dynamic (master slave) layouts. But I can't for the love of god find out if it exists or if it's just a manual tiler. Does it?

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alecsargent lemmy.zip alecsargent@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-13
#25 · Quote Reply

damn I know that graphing library It's pretty cool btw haha Though, I have no idea what it's called anymore.

Archlinux's window manager statistics

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alecsargent lemmy.zip alecsargent@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-13
#26 · Quote Reply

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Just so you know, Hyprland's developer made "Hypr" (xorg window manager) before making "Hyprland".

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funkajunk 🇨🇦 lemmy.world funkajunk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-08
#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

Been on hyprland exclusively for the past year, haven't had too many issues. Some syntax changes, a deprecated plugin that was forked a few days later.

I knew what I was getting into by daily driving beta software, and with that in mind I'm pleasantly surprised by how few things have actually broken.


EDIT:

Looks like everything is changing over to LUA, just spent an hour converting and tweaking my setup to work with new syntax. Legacy configuration will only be supported for a couple more releases, so might as well convert now.

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☭SaltyIcetea☭ lemmy.ml SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#28 · Quote Reply

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so maybe im getting this wrong, but both qoutes you gave seem to me to take on a "just shut up about any politics whatsoever, i dont care." stance

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bisby lemmy.world bisby@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#29 · Quote Reply

so maybe im getting this wrong, but both qoutes you gave seem to me to take on a "just shut up about any politics whatsoever, i dont care." stance
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thedormantotaku lemmy.world thedormantotaku@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-13
#30 · Quote Reply

Ever tried replacing DMS with Noctalia? I much prefer it after Niri switched the default quickshellbut want to try MangoWC due to the different layout options

I tried niri but scrolling window managers aren't for me. I quickly realized that. I did try noctalia previously on arch but since cachyos provides all the configs by default and I only change the keybinds, I have stuck with DMS. I did try to customize the hell out when using noctalia tho. It looked good but I was so hellbent on ricing it, I wasn't doing that much work. So I have now switched to a default, just works setup where I can actually work.

MangoWC has been great. Doesn't break the config after every update (cough... hyprland).

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☭SaltyIcetea☭ lemmy.ml SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
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bisby lemmy.world bisby@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#32 · Quote Reply

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I left out some context. There was a massive controversy that sparked a lot of the "toxic community" claims. Someone showed up with pronouns in their discord display name. A server mod changed that user's display name on the server so the pronouns were "(who/cares)" ... Which vaxry declared "not a big deal" but they made it clear that showing up with pronouns in the server was "politically divisive" and that users who include pronouns are unwelcome.

"LGBT issue" being lumped in with "politics" in his quote is intentional, as his way of being dismissive of it.

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chepdamona sh.itjust.works chepdamona@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Is that bloodborne?! Didn't realise it was available/ready for play on PC? Is this just a PS4 emulator?

Also, agree, Niri is fantastic!

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Eyck_of_denesle lemmy.zip Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-02-18
#34 · Quote Reply

Hyprland has several practical features that Sway does not have. I have used both extensively and I stayed at Hyprland because of the following: DynamicBSP layout Moving windows without changing layout structure is easy Special workspaces(scratch pads) They can be toggled One can launch apps when opened empty They can automatically close when the last window closes. Things Sway has that Hyprlan...

With lua you can get the lacking features too.

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☭SaltyIcetea☭ lemmy.ml SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-07
#35 · Quote Reply

I left out some context. There was a massive controversy that sparked a lot of the "toxic community" claims. Someone showed up with pronouns in their discord display name. A server mod changed that user's display name on the server so the pronouns were "(who/cares)" ... Which vaxry declared "not a big deal" but they made it clear that showing up with pronouns in the server was "politically divi...

ah now i understand. that is indeed problematic. thank you for informing me

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alecsargent lemmy.zip alecsargent@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-13
#36 · Quote Reply

With lua you can get the lacking features too.

I looked at the documentation and I'm not sure how to do it, do you have a example to target windows in the current workspace? I would really appreciate that.

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Eyck_of_denesle lemmy.zip Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-02-18
#37 · Quote Reply

I looked at the documentation and I'm not sure how to do it, do you have a example to target windows in the current workspace? I would really appreciate that.

I'm away from home so can't use my pc. Lua is a scripting language so you're not restricted to the wiki or documentation.

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