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cannedtuna lemmy.world cannedtuna@lemmy.world
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mushroommunk lemmy.today mushroommunk@lemmy.today
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Yes, "wantonly" is spelled correctly here. I looked at it and immediately it felt wrong so this is for any like me who's only ever heard it said.

Also, broke my Codium install today, no idea how but it won't load debug values now, woo.

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DaddleDew lemmy.world DaddleDew@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-08
#3 · Quote Reply

Sounds like a very similar situation to car mechanics

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cally [he/they] pawb.social callyral@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-09-14
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i would just un-update it and only update when im ready to tweak the config

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squirrel cake.kobel.fyi squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi
Joined: 2026-04-19
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Yes, "wantonly" is spelled correctly here. I looked at it and immediately it felt wrong so this is for any like me who's only ever heard it said. Also, broke my Codium install today, no idea how but it won't load debug values now, woo.

Wantonly sounds like a place, like Wantonly Michigan or something like that.

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9point6 lemmy.world 9point6@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

My computer configuration is best described as a construction of duct tape and chewing gum holding a house of cards in place

Tbh my server is getting a bit that way too, which is slightly more concerning

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ashenone lemmy.ml ashenone@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-12-18
#7 · Quote Reply

My partner would text me 'what did you do' when I had a day off and audiobookshelf stopped working. This is why I only tinker after midnight

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db2 lemmy.world db2@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
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Yes, "wantonly" is spelled correctly here. I looked at it and immediately it felt wrong so this is for any like me who's only ever heard it said. Also, broke my Codium install today, no idea how but it won't load debug values now, woo.

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db2 lemmy.world db2@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#9 · Quote Reply

My computer configuration is best described as a construction of duct tape and chewing gum holding a house of cards in place Tbh my server is getting a bit that way too, which is slightly more concerning

If you water cool it you can call yourself a plumber too

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cannedtuna lemmy.world cannedtuna@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#10 · Quote Reply

My partner would text me 'what did you do' when I had a day off and audiobookshelf stopped working. This is why I only tinker after midnight

Yeah… ive been meaning to get audiobookshelf setup, but it looked like a pain so it’s been sitting there untouched. That along with needing to migrate from Plex to Jellyfin, my projects pile up.

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red_tomato lemmy.world red_tomato@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-30
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My computer is just a bunch of duct taped config files I’ve forgotten about waiting to be invalidated by the next update

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DickFiasco sh.itjust.works DickFiasco@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-24
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This logic can be applied to many hobbies, frankly.

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EonNShadow pawb.social EonNShadow@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-10
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah… ive been meaning to get audiobookshelf setup, but it looked like a pain so it’s been sitting there untouched. That along with needing to migrate from Plex to Jellyfin, my projects pile up.

ABS is actually quite easy if you already have a library for audiobooks on Plex

Just install ABS on the same box and point it at the same folder and it will do most of the rest itself

Remote access is a bit of a pain though. I'm using tailscale for it. I wish there was a better, more universal (also free) 2fa solution out there but it just doesn't exist.

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DreamButt lemmy.world tdawg@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
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Ngl I always assumed it had a racist origin

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Pommes_für_dein_Balg feddit.org mech@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-10-06
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I'm not a computer guy. I'm a bicycle guy.
I build them up myself, buy cheap ones on ebay to fix and modify, know basically all there is to know about stem standards, drivetrain compatibility, etc.

I currently have 6 non-functional bikes in my garage.

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KiwiTB lemmy.world KiwiTB@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-29
#16 · Quote Reply

People who know what they are doing use snapshots and backups so this doesn't happen.

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#17 · Quote Reply

Wantonly sounds like a place, like Wantonly Michigan or something like that.

I suppose they could rename Hell

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alecsargent lemmy.zip alecsargent@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-13
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Not a developer or power user but the tinkering and unstable mindset fades away as one gets older.

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Onomatopoeia lemmy.cafe Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-01-02
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The cobbler's lids have the worst shoes

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tal lemmy.today tal@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-04
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I am hoping that you put your config in a git repository so that you can revert it.

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Onomatopoeia lemmy.cafe Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
Joined: 2025-01-02
#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

i would just un-update it and only update when im ready to tweak the config

And this is my argument against auto update.

Auto update means stuff breaks when I'm not looking.

Better to have a managed update process where I sit down, do an update, verify things work.

I get business has a different risk model that drives auto update there. Tens/hundreds/thousands of machines represent a massive risk canvas, and support for things not working is already baked into IT services.

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NewNewAugustEast lemmy.zip NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-19
#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

Verycomputer?

Wantonly?

Huh?

Since this is linux memes, I am on day 10 of my work being unable to fix windows 11 (and I am not doing it for them) while I continue to use my Linux machines for everything because they just work.

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TrackinDaKraken lemmy.world DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-26
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I learned last week, after over 30 years of assembling my own computers, that there are (at least) two types of modular power cables for SATA drives. The way I learned this was to grab a cable that fit between my power supply, two hard drives, and a DVD burner, and turned my computer on. In the past, in my experience, if the cable had the right connectors, it would work. Apparently, there is no standardization for the power side pin-out, and some manufacturers (Corsair, at least) wired that end differently for some cables, and using the wrong cable will blow up any drive attached.

Or something like that, I dunno, I was too mad to look into it any further. Fortunately, I didn't lose anything irreplaceable, so all it cost me is money and embarrassment.

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pr06lefs lemmy.ml pr06lefs@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-21
#24 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm not a computer guy. I'm a bicycle guy. I build them up myself, buy cheap ones on ebay to fix and modify, know basically all there is to know about stem standards, drivetrain compatibility, etc. I currently have 6 non-functional bikes in my garage.

I just bought my fourth oneplus 6 phone. Two are non functional. Maybe this will be the one where I finally get linux running on my phone lol

I also have four non functional bikes

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CorrectAlias piefed.blahaj.zone CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-22
#25 · (edited) Quote Reply

My partner would text me 'what did you do' when I had a day off and audiobookshelf stopped working. This is why I only tinker after midnight

I also wait until my partner is asleep. It still doesn't make me 100% safe from the 'what did you do' texts, because sometimes I break things that I don't think to check. Worse, sometimes I break something so bad that I stay up until 6am trying to fix it, only to cook my brain and pass out without fully repairing what went wrong.

But it's still better than doing it during the day.

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CorrectAlias piefed.blahaj.zone CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-22
#26 · Quote Reply

ABS is actually quite easy if you already have a library for audiobooks on Plex Just install ABS on the same box and point it at the same folder and it will do most of the rest itself Remote access is a bit of a pain though. I'm using tailscale for it. I wish there was a better, more universal (also free) 2fa solution out there but it just doesn't exist.

Does mTLS work with ABS? That's how I control access to many of my "exposed" services.

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
#27 · Quote Reply

ABS is actually quite easy if you already have a library for audiobooks on Plex Just install ABS on the same box and point it at the same folder and it will do most of the rest itself Remote access is a bit of a pain though. I'm using tailscale for it. I wish there was a better, more universal (also free) 2fa solution out there but it just doesn't exist.

ABS is actually quite easy

Well yeah, you just depress the brake pedal

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MousePotatoDoesStuff piefed.social MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-04-22
#28 · Quote Reply

Yup. My Arch+LUKS+KDE setup freezes on first boot half of the time and I can't be bothered to keep trying to fix it because it takes less than 5 minutes of my time per day and I run backups of the important stuff once or twice a week, and I'll likely distrohop within the next 12 months. Worst case scenario, I wipe the whole thing, archinstall from scratch, and restore from backup.
(well, worst case that doesn't result in physical/BIOS damage...)

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Kazumara discuss.tchncs.de Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-04-13
#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

Verycomputer? Wantonly? Huh? Since this is linux memes, I am on day 10 of my work being unable to fix windows 11 (and I am not doing it for them) while I continue to use my Linux machines for everything because they just work.

Wantonly

Normal word: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wantonly, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wantonly

Verycomputer

It said "Very Computer", which is a humoristic way of saying highly computer-savvy

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Midnight Wolf lemmy.world wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

And this is my argument against auto update. Auto update means stuff breaks when I'm not looking. Better to have a managed update process where I sit down, do an update, verify things work. I get business has a different risk model that drives auto update there. Tens/hundreds/thousands of machines represent a massive risk canvas, and support for things not working is already baked into IT services.

I do (most) of my autoupdates on Sunday at 4am, that way if things break it happens on an expected schedule. My manual updates like proxmox too, once I'm awake. Game servers are daily though, since stuff can break if client/server aren't on the same version.

I had Vaultwarden push an update a couple of years ago that broke it, and I had daily autoupdates on (watchtower) so for an hour I was panicking about what happened. That's how I switched to my mostly-weekly system, with critical vulnerability updates done manually on release.

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Kazumara discuss.tchncs.de Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-04-13
#31 · Quote Reply

I am hoping that you put your config in a git repository so that you can revert it.

I am also hoping that I do that, but I still don't

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Coriza lemmy.world coriza@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-10
#32 · Quote Reply

I learned last week, after over 30 years of assembling my own computers, that there are (at least) two types of modular power cables for SATA drives. The way I learned this was to grab a cable that fit between my power supply, two hard drives, and a DVD burner, and turned my computer on. In the past, in my experience, if the cable had the right connectors, it would work. Apparently, there is no...

I read about that a couple of years ago, I am speechless that such a thing is even allowed to exist.

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ikidd lemmy.dbzer0.com ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#33 · Quote Reply

Sounds like a very similar situation to car mechanics

Except it doesn't hurt your back as much to fix.

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Shayeta feddit.org Shayeta@feddit.org
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#34 · Quote Reply

ABS is actually quite easy Well yeah, you just depress the brake pedal

What? He is obviously talking about a broken piece of ABS plastic.

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#35 · Quote Reply

Crying in GPU and USB kybd/mse/snd ported into a PVE-housed Nobara43 VM right now.

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PlexSheep infosec.pub PlexSheep@infosec.pub
Joined: 2024-04-09
#36 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wantonly Normal word: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wantonly, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wantonly Verycomputer It said "Very Computer", which is a humoristic way of saying highly computer-savvy

Just because it's in a dictionary doesn't mean it's a normal word. Wantonly is a weird word. I keep reading want-only and an very confused.

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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#37 · Quote Reply

My cousin is 30 years a mechanic. The only reason his car works at all is because he retired at 48 (#union).

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NewNewAugustEast lemmy.zip NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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#38 · Quote Reply

Wantonly Normal word: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wantonly, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wantonly Verycomputer It said "Very Computer", which is a humoristic way of saying highly computer-savvy

Thanks, I knew the term wantonly but didn't know it was spelled that way.

Thanks!

The computer thing, meh. Just say it.

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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
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#39 · Quote Reply

I learned last week, after over 30 years of assembling my own computers, that there are (at least) two types of modular power cables for SATA drives. The way I learned this was to grab a cable that fit between my power supply, two hard drives, and a DVD burner, and turned my computer on. In the past, in my experience, if the cable had the right connectors, it would work. Apparently, there is no...

afaik there is no 'standard' for modular power supply cables. you have to make sure the ones you're using are for the specific psu you're using, and that can even vary between models from the same manufacturer.

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Truscape lemmy.blahaj.zone Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-20
#40 · Quote Reply

I'm not a computer guy. I'm a bicycle guy. I build them up myself, buy cheap ones on ebay to fix and modify, know basically all there is to know about stem standards, drivetrain compatibility, etc. I currently have 6 non-functional bikes in my garage.

The key is to call them all "pet projects" that are "still being worked on" and then not do anything with them for another month.

(Engineering/Tech guy here)

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osaerisxero kbin.melroy.org osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2024-08-14
#41 · Quote Reply

Except it doesn't hurt your back as much to fix.

Depends on if you've got a good chair.

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Bilb! lemmy.ml bilb@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-12-23
#42 · (edited) Quote Reply

ABS is actually quite easy if you already have a library for audiobooks on Plex Just install ABS on the same box and point it at the same folder and it will do most of the rest itself Remote access is a bit of a pain though. I'm using tailscale for it. I wish there was a better, more universal (also free) 2fa solution out there but it just doesn't exist.

I got it up and running in about 10 minutes just yesterday, but that's probably because I had already spent a couple of days learning how to use quadlets and getting my remote access scheme figured out.

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Bilb! lemmy.ml bilb@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-12-23
#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

I do (most) of my autoupdates on Sunday at 4am, that way if things break it happens on an expected schedule. My manual updates like proxmox too, once I'm awake. Game servers are daily though, since stuff can break if client/server aren't on the same version. I had Vaultwarden push an update a couple of years ago that broke it, and I had daily autoupdates on (watchtower) so for an hour I was pan...

Oh, well you see with Vaultwarden what you do is just don't update it until you're forced to because the clients stop being able to talk to it. ;)

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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#44 · (edited) Quote Reply

xkcd TV Problems

And also

xkcd Computer Problems

Btw, downloading a CD (.iso) on the phone to boot it, because your Linux broke while you had no bootable thumbdrive around. Is something a lot of people here did sometime.

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Dultas lemmy.world Dultas@lemmy.world
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#45 · Quote Reply

I'm not a computer guy. I'm a bicycle guy. I build them up myself, buy cheap ones on ebay to fix and modify, know basically all there is to know about stem standards, drivetrain compatibility, etc. I currently have 6 non-functional bikes in my garage.

N+1

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Dultas lemmy.world Dultas@lemmy.world
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#46 · Quote Reply

I also wait until my partner is asleep. It still doesn't make me 100% safe from the 'what did you do' texts, because sometimes I break things that I don't think to check. Worse, sometimes I break something so bad that I stay up until 6am trying to fix it, only to cook my brain and pass out without fully repairing what went wrong. But it's still better than doing it during the day.

I only do networking after midnight. I have pulled 4+ hrs after breaking the network more than once.

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Dultas lemmy.world Dultas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-03
#47 · Quote Reply

Just because it's in a dictionary doesn't mean it's a normal word. Wantonly is a weird word. I keep reading want-only and an very confused.

If you read it as, want-only, I could see that. But wanton-ly doesn't seem that uncommon to me.

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Ithral lemmy.blahaj.zone Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-03-31
#48 · Quote Reply

And also Btw, downloading a CD (.iso) on the phone to boot it, because your Linux broke while you had no bootable thumbdrive around. Is something a lot of people here did sometime.

Been there, done that

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bridgeenjoyer sh.itjust.works bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-06
#49 · Quote Reply

That hurts

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redsand infosec.pub redsand@infosec.pub
Joined: 2025-04-09
#50 · Quote Reply

Yup. My Arch+LUKS+KDE setup freezes on first boot half of the time and I can't be bothered to keep trying to fix it because it takes less than 5 minutes of my time per day and I run backups of the important stuff once or twice a week, and I'll likely distrohop within the next 12 months. Worst case scenario, I wipe the whole thing, archinstall from scratch, and restore from backup. (well, worst ...

Gentoo has the stability you seek

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bridgeenjoyer sh.itjust.works bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-06
#51 · Quote Reply

My cousin is 30 years a mechanic. The only reason his car works at all is because he retired at 48 (#union).

Yeah my cars all have problems but I know what they are so I can fix them later. I worry more about folks driving about with a failed wheel bearing and 0 brakes that they have no clue about..

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