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The Picard Maneuver
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CapuccinoCoretto
lemmy.world
CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-03-24 |
We know nothing of his alien physiology. He could be like a worm. There are now two mauls, one originally the top, the other bottom. They are probably lovers. |
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the_tab_key
lemmy.world
the_tab_key@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
We know nothing of his alien physiology. He could be like a worm. There are now two mauls, one originally the top, the other bottom. They are probably lovers.
Neither confirming or denying: that may be the plot line of the recent maul series on Disney+ |
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cattywampas
lemmy.world
cattywampas@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-30 |
There were a lot of moments of the Obi-Wan series that I liked. The whole first episode was great, Ben surviving in his new life in the desert. Loved when he explained the Force to Leia, it felt very OT. Some great Anakin/Obi-Wan moments. That said, I'm currently reading the Kenobi novel and I'm loving it so far. I think I much prefer it to the series. |
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SchmidtGenetics
lemmy.world
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-05 |
Neither confirming or denying: that may be the plot line of the recent maul series on Disney+
It’s also the plot in a couple of legends and canon books too. People like to bash the palpatine coming back, but it’s actually a well thought out storyline in the books. A lot of stuff gets lost between the books and the movies though, the whole episode 3 book has a totally different feel than the movie. A whole arc is missing about why he’s so mad to not get the rank of master. Palpatine was telling Anakin the Jedi masters had the secret to eternal life and it would save padme. |
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Jo Miran
lemmy.ml
JoMiran@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-29 |
It’s also the plot in a couple of legends and canon books too. People like to bash the palpatine coming back, but it’s actually a well thought out storyline in the books. A lot of stuff gets lost between the books and the movies though, the whole episode 3 book has a totally different feel than the movie. A whole arc is missing about why he’s so mad to not get the rank of master. Palpatine was ...
We're talking about the two halves of Maul being lovers, right? Right? |
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SchmidtGenetics
lemmy.world
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-05 |
We're talking about the two halves of Maul being lovers, right? Right?
Hrmm I don’t think I’ve gotten to that story yet. But anything is possible. |
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essell
lemmy.world
essell@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-28 |
The dark side is a pathway to many abilities that some consider unnatural. |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
So the whole "force ghost" thing requires much time spent meditating in the force. Yoda communed with force Qui Gon to learn it and gave instructions for Obiwan on how to train for it during his exile on Tatooine. Having completed this meditation training, Qui Gon would have been at peace with dying. Similar to how Obiwan seemed to allow Vader to strike him down during their final duel; only to return through the force to Luke. Perhaps part of the reason that this technique is not more wide spread is because it inherently weakens ones determination to survive. The Sith cannot transcend death in this way. They must pour their power into clinging on to life. |
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The Picard Maneuver
lemmy.world
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
So the whole "force ghost" thing requires much time spent meditating in the force. Yoda communed with force Qui Gon to learn it and gave instructions for Obiwan on how to train for it during his exile on Tatooine. Having completed this meditation training, Qui Gon would have been at peace with dying. Similar to how Obiwan seemed to allow Vader to strike him down during their final duel; only to...
Then what's the story with Vader doing it in RotJ? |
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cattywampas
lemmy.world
cattywampas@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-30 |
It’s also the plot in a couple of legends and canon books too. People like to bash the palpatine coming back, but it’s actually a well thought out storyline in the books. A lot of stuff gets lost between the books and the movies though, the whole episode 3 book has a totally different feel than the movie. A whole arc is missing about why he’s so mad to not get the rank of master. Palpatine was ...
People bash Palpatine coming back because it was not well thought out in the movies. They could have set it up easily in the PT what with all the allusions to the Force being able to be used to influence life and death. Then you have two movies in ST to play with before a big reveal in the final film. But unfortunately all the trilogies were too disconnected from each other, with the ST being too disconnected within itself. |
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Albbi
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albbi@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-06-25 |
Then what's the story with Vader doing it in RotJ?
Why you gotta poke a hole in this guy's awesome theory? So mean. But yeah... |
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Grail
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Grail@multiverse.soulism.netJoined: 2026-01-14 |
Then what's the story with Vader doing it in RotJ?
He stopped being a Sith and then mastered the technique really fast by being a chosen one. It's like that one scene in Kung Fu Panda 2 |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
Then what's the story with Vader doing it in RotJ?
That's where the controversy comes into play. Cuz the whole force ghost mechanics were written after similar to midicloreans.... There's basically a few explainations.
... In an alternate timeline where Lucas finished all 9 movies I could see him re-releasing the movies with some choice edits. Similar to this but a little less tongue in cheek. |
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The Picard Maneuver
lemmy.world
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Why you gotta poke a hole in this guy's awesome theory? So mean. But yeah...
Maybe there's an explanation though. Like, Vader is just super powerful and figured it out while in his meditation sphere? |
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The Picard Maneuver
lemmy.world
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
That's where the controversy comes into play. Cuz the whole force ghost mechanics were written after similar to midicloreans.... There's basically a few explainations. It's part of his redemption His midicloreans... / natural affinity with the force His connection with obiwan, quigon, yoda who all helped him trancend. Makes for a good ending. (The original reason probs) ... In an alternate time...
I'm willing to accept all of the above. |
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ImgurRefugee114
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ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com Joined: 2025-08-26 |
So the whole "force ghost" thing requires much time spent meditating in the force. Yoda communed with force Qui Gon to learn it and gave instructions for Obiwan on how to train for it during his exile on Tatooine. Having completed this meditation training, Qui Gon would have been at peace with dying. Similar to how Obiwan seemed to allow Vader to strike him down during their final duel; only to...
Idunno.... I've seen a lot of sith force ghosts... Albeit they always seem a bit more haunty and tortured than the Jedi. |
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mushroommunk
lemmy.today
mushroommunk@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-08-18 |
Hrmm I don’t think I’ve gotten to that story yet. But anything is possible.
You won't hear those stories from a Jedi. You need to go to fanfiction.net and learn the ways of the Sith |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
the Sith cannot... Idunno.... I've seen a lot of sith force ghosts... Albeit they always seem a bit more haunty and tortured than the Jedi.
legit. I wonder if there is a difference. Aren't the sith ghosts more tied to locations? |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
Why you gotta poke a hole in this guy's awesome theory? So mean. But yeah...
It's a pretty widely discussed plot hole. But like plot holes are what you get when you start writing a story that you never expected to finish and then after you finish it decide that was the middle of the story. |
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atomicbocks
sh.itjust.works
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-16 |
That's where the controversy comes into play. Cuz the whole force ghost mechanics were written after similar to midicloreans.... There's basically a few explainations. It's part of his redemption His midicloreans... / natural affinity with the force His connection with obiwan, quigon, yoda who all helped him trancend. Makes for a good ending. (The original reason probs) ... In an alternate time...
Fun fact: it was intended to be a 12 part series, like the Flash Gordon or Buck Rodgers serials of the 1930s. |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
Fun fact: it was intended to be a 12 part series, like the Flash Gordon or Buck Rodgers serials of the 1930s.
But critically NOT during the first movie. During ANH nobody expected there to be a sequel. |
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atomicbocks
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atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-16 |
But critically NOT during the first movie. During ANH nobody expected there to be a sequel.
George always wanted it to happen, but if I recall correctly you are right, it wasn’t even called A New Hope or had the title crawl until It was re-released shortly before Empire. |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
George always wanted it to happen, but if I recall correctly you are right, it wasn’t even called A New Hope or had the title crawl until It was re-released shortly before Empire.
I don't doubt he had a bigger story. The conflict between the two mentalities is what led to humorous bits like the Luke & Leia kiss before the knew they were related. |
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atomicbocks
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atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-02-16 |
I don't doubt he had a bigger story. The conflict between the two mentalities is what led to humorous bits like the Luke & Leia kiss before the knew they were related.
As I understand it George was the ideas man, part of the reason the prequels went off the rails a bit is because he removed himself from people who had helped the original trilogy be what it is, people like Lawrence Kasden. I’ve always been curious which one of them had them kiss and which one of them decided they were siblings as much of Empire was written by Kasden. |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
As I understand it George was the ideas man, part of the reason the prequels went off the rails a bit is because he removed himself from people who had helped the original trilogy be what it is, people like Lawrence Kasden. I’ve always been curious which one of them had them kiss and which one of them decided they were siblings as much of Empire was written by Kasden.
Dunno whose idea it was. They were teasing a love triangle originally and didn't decide to make them siblings until ROTJ when George realized he needed to condense things. |
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rf_
lemmy.world
rf_@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-04 |
We know nothing of his alien physiology. He could be like a worm. There are now two mauls, one originally the top, the other bottom. They are probably lovers.
One’s a top the other’s a bottom ? 😏 |
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stickyprimer
lemmy.world
stickyprimer@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-03-21 |
So the whole "force ghost" thing requires much time spent meditating in the force. Yoda communed with force Qui Gon to learn it and gave instructions for Obiwan on how to train for it during his exile on Tatooine. Having completed this meditation training, Qui Gon would have been at peace with dying. Similar to how Obiwan seemed to allow Vader to strike him down during their final duel; only to...
This is a good point. Aren’t Jedis quite selfless though? I would think that they would already not prioritize their own survival over other principles. When you work on dissolving the self, one big benefit is you stop freaking out so much about death. You recognize that even though you’re locked into this very narrow subjective experience, it’s still one cell in a much larger process which will endure after your death. It becomes much less “the end of everything.” I would guess that Jedis are totally there and wouldn’t change any of their choices based on whether their little subjective consciousness will cling to existence or not. |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
it inherently weakens one’s determination to survive This is a good point. Aren’t Jedis quite selfless though? I would think that they would already not prioritize their own survival over other principles. When you work on dissolving the self, one big benefit is you stop freaking out so much about death. You recognize that even though you’re locked into this very narrow subjective experience, i...
I think the Sith are one of the few things that present a threat larger than the average Jedi master can navigate. |
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AeronMelon
lemmy.world
aeronmelon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-26 |
We know nothing of his alien physiology. He could be like a worm. There are now two mauls, one originally the top, the other bottom. They are probably lovers.
Machinery in the Star Wars universe seems to be aware to an extent. Why? What’s the threshold? If I just build a head is that enough? If I just build a torso, is that enough? What about Luke’s cybernetic arm? It seemed to act of its own volition on a couple of occasions. There’s an issue with cross pollination, too. Maul’s upper half was attached to a crawler droid and he thought he was some cave spider. 3PO’s head was on a battle droid body and he started developing a bloodlust for combat. |
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spamfajitas
lemmy.dbzer0.com
spamfajitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-03-19 |
People bash Palpatine coming back because it was not well thought out in the movies. They could have set it up easily in the PT what with all the allusions to the Force being able to be used to influence life and death. Then you have two movies in ST to play with before a big reveal in the final film. But unfortunately all the trilogies were too disconnected from each other, with the ST being t...
Palpatine being back wasn't even revealed first in the movies, it was revealed in a Fortnite event of all places. Absolutely crazy choice of marketing. |
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titanicx
lemmy.zip
titanicx@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-09-15 |
So the whole "force ghost" thing requires much time spent meditating in the force. Yoda communed with force Qui Gon to learn it and gave instructions for Obiwan on how to train for it during his exile on Tatooine. Having completed this meditation training, Qui Gon would have been at peace with dying. Similar to how Obiwan seemed to allow Vader to strike him down during their final duel; only to...
I'm pretty sure Anakin showing up as a force ghost kind of disproves the fact that the sith need to do that because that awesome motherfucker only repented for like 30 seconds before he died. |
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Canaconda
lemmy.ca
Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
I'm pretty sure Anakin showing up as a force ghost kind of disproves the fact that the sith need to do that because that awesome motherfucker only repented for like 30 seconds before he died.
Fully agree. That's why it's controversial. |
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crunchy
lemmy.dbzer0.com
crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-05-28 |
I'm pretty sure Anakin showing up as a force ghost kind of disproves the fact that the sith need to do that because that awesome motherfucker only repented for like 30 seconds before he died.
Yeah but Anakin was literally Jesus. |
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Tess
piefed.blahaj.zone
Tess@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-10-08 |
Then what's the story with Vader doing it in RotJ?
According to this 28 year old theory, it's because he died in front of Luke. There's no dark or light side, there's just trying to die in front of Luke. |
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The Picard Maneuver
lemmy.world
The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
According to this 28 year old theory, it's because he died in front of Luke. There's no dark or light side, there's just trying to die in front of Luke.
Brilliant |
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FrChazzz
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FrChazzz@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-06-04 |
While Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon were on Naboo, some elder Jedi mystic discovered the proper technique to survive lightsaber wounds. The information was not dispersed before Qui-Gon met his fate. Truly a dark irony. However, his death and the re-emergence of the Sith prompted the immediate training of this technique to the point that it became common knowledge even among the most green of padawans. Or perhaps it’s better to think that maybe Qui-Gon learned this ability while in the Force and has now shared it from beyond the grave, a thing that saved so many Jedi yet could only happen as a result of Qui-Gon’s death. |
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OddMinus1
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OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-30 |
We know nothing of his alien physiology. He could be like a worm. There are now two mauls, one originally the top, the other bottom. They are probably lovers.
So his double sword, which still functioned when cut in half, was a representation of himself. The sword wasn't modeled for him, it was modeled after him! |
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pawb.social
Kolanaki@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-10-06 |
One of the animated series details how Darth Maul survived. He basically used the Force to cobble a bunch of junk together to serve as his legs. Not like he was gonna bleed out or anything; Lightsabers also cauterize the wounds they inflict. |
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SchmidtGenetics
lemmy.world
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-05 |
People bash Palpatine coming back because it was not well thought out in the movies. They could have set it up easily in the PT what with all the allusions to the Force being able to be used to influence life and death. Then you have two movies in ST to play with before a big reveal in the final film. But unfortunately all the trilogies were too disconnected from each other, with the ST being t...
People want action, and there was enough politics too, adding in “plot armor” force transfer would be too much talking and not enough slicing. I get why it’s not there, most of the information IS there, just not spelled out, it’s even scrambled if you would. |
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Drekaridill
lemmy.wtf
Drekaridill@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2025-11-03 |
The light saber vaccine, of course |
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teft
piefed.social
teft@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-07-22 |
We know nothing of his alien physiology. He could be like a worm. There are now two mauls, one originally the top, the other bottom. They are probably lovers.
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teft
piefed.social
teft@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-07-22 |
He stopped being a Sith and then mastered the technique really fast by being a chosen one. It's like that one scene in Kung Fu Panda 2
Great, now I want a kung fu Vader training montage. Maybe Palps throwing handfuls of sand at vader while he balances bowls of blue milk on his "limbs" and head. |
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Surp
lemmy.world
Surp@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-30 |
One of the animated series details how Darth Maul survived. He basically used the Force to cobble a bunch of junk together to serve as his legs. Not like he was gonna bleed out or anything; Lightsabers also cauterize the wounds they inflict.
What about his asshole and dick? How did he shit and piss? |
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GreenKnight23
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GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
somehow Qui-gon returned. |
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pawb.social
Kolanaki@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-10-06 |
What about his asshole and dick? How did he shit and piss?
He probably uses the Force and gets hemmeroids. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
Yeah but Anakin was literally Jesus.
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Jackal Of All Trades
pawb.social
jackalofalltrades@pawb.social Joined: 2024-08-22 |
You won't hear those stories from a Jedi. You need to go to fanfiction.net and learn the ways of the Sith
That sounds more like an archiveofourown.org plot, personally. |
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I Cast Fist
programming.dev
ICastFist@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-22 |
While Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon were on Naboo, some elder Jedi mystic discovered the proper technique to survive lightsaber wounds. The information was not dispersed before Qui-Gon met his fate. Truly a dark irony. However, his death and the re-emergence of the Sith prompted the immediate training of this technique to the point that it became common knowledge even among the most green of padawans. Or...
Guess the younglings didn't get that training until they got older |
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I Cast Fist
programming.dev
ICastFist@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-22 |
The dark side is a pathway to many abilities that some consider unnatural.
But they have cookies! |
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FrChazzz
lemmus.org
FrChazzz@lemmus.org Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Guess the younglings didn't get that training until they got older
Or Anakin just caused them all to lose the will to live. I hear he has that effect on |
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