They already got Marines backing up police.

I Seriously doubt this is true

See that’s where you’re wrong, go ahead and read up on the Battle of Blair Mountain, Wikipedia to get y’all started

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

We got fascist troops invading our own cities.

>Tries to create a socialist democracy
 
>Invades self to stop it

Beat me to it.

It's the opposite. We're under permanent occupation, they don't even need to invade.

Thoughts that nobody could possibly have in 2026.

pretty dumb take

Now I know this may be a little crazy but…I think it’s a joke.

That is just not correct, we are already occupied by the US, and they can invade us, they are openly planning on it. Making unconstitutional federal security services to invade US citites. Under the Israel model. Your state cops are with them btw, no matter what the politicians and leadership says, the cops are on their side ultimately.

I was gonna say MOVE bombings of 1985 for something more recent, but together we're building context.

Ah I guess that's why the government is now attacking its own people.

When I was in elementary school, I met a man who worked in the Merrimac Mine in VA (closed 1935 after two anarchists dropped lit dynamite into a gas pocket) who one late summer day got on a train and headed up to Logan County with an 1895 Winchester and a pack of hard tack in solidarity with his UMWA brethren. He must have been about 90 when we met him. Our teachers shuffled him out of the room when he started talking about "The Civil War" because "he was getting confused."

It wasn't until much later that I realized it was some of the realest shit anyone had ever said to me. It didn't really matter that it wasn't the civil war, it still was a civil war, and it was the one he'd fought in. He'd staked his life to that he deserved to be treated with dignity and that future generations shouldn't waste away deep beneath the earth the way his friends had. I think about that that was the kind of person who was willing to say some seemingly bonkers shit to some 10 year olds just to jolt them awake because that's who he was. That was what he knew. I also think about that he met us. He saw us. He created a connective tissue between the elders of his day. If they were as old to him as he was to us, they would have been more in 1837 before anyone new the value of the coal beneath the soil in our home valley. The most military technology of the time was powered by the wind. They grew up knowing, and hating, the southern plantation system that existed in nearby valleys and down in the piedmont just south and east of where we grew up. One of them probably even knew the enslaved man who built the finest building in the entire valley, a building so impressive and beloved that the entire town gathered the funds to buy his manumission papers, and then helped him buy the mill that would a few years later be burned down 3 times by both the Union and Confederate armies under the assumption that the owner was feeding the other army.

He spoke to us. He spoke to us the way those elders had spoke to him. He said something so threatening to the status quo that it was assumed to be nonsense. I think when he was a boy probably some old abolitionist said something like that to him that didn't set in until he was old enough to get on that train. Ever since I realized the value of this connective tissue I have lived my life to preserve these stories and pass them into future generations. To help people of today see that the settler-colonists who first defiled this land and tried to create plantations despite the dense forests and ill suited soils just to turn over a quick buck, who killed and raped the Muskogee native Americans who had been here for millennia, and who pushed the escaped enslaved Africans from Florida further west into what is now Kentucky are the same people who joined the Confederate army, are the same people who refused to respect the results of the post-civil war elections and created the Jim Crow era, are the same people who thugged for JH Blair, are the same people who Dr Martin Luther King and Angela Davis resisted, are today once again active and going by the name "Immigration and Customs Enforcement."

When I was in my 20s, I was naive. I thought that the moral arc of history was long, and bent towards justice, and that I would know liberation in my time. I see things very differently now. It will probably be some 10 year olds I speak to when I am 90 who know the freedom I am so thirsty for. Even then, this may be my naivete. The generations between me and them may be too twisted by the hatred that has been engendered in me that I hold toward the people who enable the system we suffer under for the process of communal healing to be complete. Thank you for sharing the story of Blair Mountain with more people. It is but one example of many of the great American imperial project's violence against my people. The greatest advice I can give, especially right now during Pride month, is to build the largest and widest coalition you can, and to never stop speaking truth into the universe.

I am reminded of a song (though everyone should go listen to Union Maid or Which Side Are You On immediately). "Your heart is a muscle the size of your fist. So keep on loving and keep on fighting"

If you want state violence against the people between those events to act as a bridge you can look at the National Guard's handling of student protestors against the Vietnam war or police violence against people of color for having the audacity to get out into the streets and say "We would appreciate not being killed"

Four dead in Ohio.

The state has no problem inflicting violence on its people. BITD it was the Pinkerton's breaking strikes, now its the national guard patrolling the streets.

I had trouble understanding fascism when I was in school (early-mid 90s), cause they put the political axis and apparently it was a lot of authoritarianism with free economics (some nationalization of industry of course). For the longest while I thought fascism was more free economics than pure authoritarian. Not that it sounded good anyways.

Now I do see it's just pure authoritarian with a slight change, if you happen to follow their ideals they may leave you alone. Till you have a thought, say something to a neighbor or post a random thing online. In the end it's all the same except a thin vineer of freedom. Unfortunately these days don't need secret police the NSA or whichever agency for your situation, hears everything anyways.

What's wrong with wanting to help everyone rather than sticking a boot in people's necks for no reason anyways? I truly wish we could all come to some common ground, we only have one planet let's figure out what works. Won't happen I know but I can hope one day..... we'll all see our neighbors are cool. Mean unless the act like assholes but think i got my point across, not everyone acts like someone else no reason to use broad strokes.

The National Guard has been finishing up the Pinkerton's sloppy work since as late as 1891

Luckily the FBI never car bombed anyone in the 90s, or assassinated any of the people behind the '16 and '20 uprisings. They wouldn't do that sort of thing.

The panthers had nothing wrong done to them. It was fine. They all died of old age or are living out on farms having had long happy lives.

Foucault’s boomerang goes thunk

The LA Riots in the early 90s were famously sparked by the Air Jordan 6 being out of stock and the Air Jordan 7 not being released yet. There were no other potential causes worth looking into. Definitely just looters upset about the unavailability of particular products

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Dude, that was beautiful. You have a way with words

I bet we could end riots if we just took away peoples shoes.

I understand the sentiment... but the whole reason the US exists is because the US invaded all the places that wasn't US yet.

since we're the one country that can't get invaded by the US

Yeah, please don't issue that challenge.

But then when the AES inevitably fails, who will leftists blame?

We're being invaded by the US tho?

Americans are too apathetic to change anything in their country though... Too tired, too exhausted to even move away from the whip that hits them every day.

Tell that to Minneapolis.

glad it still resonated even with all the typos haha. there are days i regret not taking my mentor's advice to go into creative writing. but i still write poetry. i write a poem every day just to keep myself good at writing poetry. i started doing that December of 2024 when Nikki Giovanni passed away from lung cancer.

i ran into a display at a chain bookstore of her poetry. the display was named "Books that shaped the nation" and it just struck me as so odd because to me, she was both my hero and my friend. someone i looked up to and admired, but also someone i always happy to catch up with. it's also so curious to me that she's the only poet from where i grew up that the nation knows when so many of us write poetry. i will grant, she was the best it amongst all us, but she put in so much work trying to build a platform for the rest of us to stand on but the institutions she worked against were only ever interested in her.

on some level though, i'm glad i didn't make a career in art. i get to go to the activist meetings i live for and make the art alongside them that i want to make without anyone telling me it needs to be more or less this or that. i'll die someday, my poems kept only by my neighbors, but at least i'll know those neighbors knew i loved them and they'll have my poems to prove it. i don't need a wikipedia page to have a legacy. i need children who can go down to the river and drink the water and eat the fish. if we never allowed another pollutant into the river ever again, it would be 60 years before this could come to pass. but someday, mark my words, it shall be so, and my soul will live in that river, up in the paper birch, for all of time to come

Weirdly liberal comment for your instance

You'd get invaded by Russia instead though. It would be a good reversal of fates tbf.

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That's just a lack of imagination of an aswer

The comment comes from completely different reasons.

Whenever someone talks about socialism, 99% of the time it's either some stalinist state capitalist delusion or social democratic welfare state that may or may not wear red (like China/Scandinavia). To run a welfare state, you need to have very high rates of profit to actually fund it, and the superprofits from WW2 have been dry for 50+ years at this point, with the rate of profit continuously dropping ever since and it can easily be seen with what's happening to welfare in general worldwide.

If a nation state was to be ran by bourgeois socialists who truly believe they're doing good, CIA or not it's gonna go to shit real quick due to rising debts, capital flight, etc. That's pretty much what happened to Allende's Chile (even though CIA did make it worse), and the solution isn't to beat your head against reality or how the world works and reform capitalism, but abolish capitalism altogether through international revolutions and DOTP's, although it's a historically unfavorable time for those as of now.

Very liberal, I know.

Actually a good point. Being regime changed by the US is the #1 cause of death of socialist governments. They usually become either religious dictatorships or drug lord monarchies afterward.

Russia is occupied with Ukraine for the next ten years.

Only until America can afford to fund Ukraine.

So what you mean is that it's now the time???

It's always the time and always has been.
But the actual problem to be solved is not the system, but the minority of people who always rise to the top in any system and ruin it for everyone else. There are always positions of power and people happy to exploit them. That is something, no system so far was able to solve.

It takes a long time to fully deplete the male population of a country like Ukraine. They are Slavs and fight till the end (literally to the last Ukrainian). The US just needs to keep Starlink available and keep feeding targeting info. Ukraine does the rest. Sure, they will eventually run out of men. But they will then send the women too and keep the fight going for another few years.
Ukraine is the best-possible proxy ever. That war will keep going with or without further western funding.

On the flip side, we are already invaded by the US so it's really the worst place.

USA was invaded 400 years ago. Still enslaving people and committing genocide to this day. Grow up.

Not to mention the whiskey rebellion and like centuries of native resistance... Etc.

You think the US isn't invaded?

Nah they only got JFK. And MLK. and.. ohhh....

Meanwhile we're becoming both

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